Kasen Williams made the 53 tonight

[Blitzer88]

At this point, I would not be surprised if they somehow kept 7 WRs. Doug, Kearse, Lockett, Richardson, Williams, Darboh
and McEvoy. Not sure which position group they would reduce to make it happen, but I think it could happen.

 

[Attyla the Hawk]

I wouldn't agree that Kasen has made the team yet. Has shown his value, but McEvoy is more polished, has softer hands, runs better routes and overall better special teamer. Punt blocking, he can do it all.

Has Williams shown much over the middle? I like the effort by Kasen with the opportunities he's being given. But, dropping that pass in the bread basket? They already know what they've got with McEvoy. Who is the better blocking WR?

I like Kasen, but would be a mistake to part with McEvoy.

I'm more with this.

Kasen basically has only produced with the fade route. I want to see him do other routes. His release is always the same. He can't just be a fade specialist.

I'm not ready to say he's made the team until he can demonstrate he can be an even halfway complete WR. Need to see more.

McEvoy is a better ST player, and can be featured at WR and TE. Bigger. Shows more complete ability. Kasen however does show a very real ability for the red line fade. And that's a pattern Seattle LOVES.

Tough call. But right now I gotta go with McEvoy. But that's pretty soft.

 

[West TX Hawk]

I wouldn't agree that Kasen has made the team yet. Has shown his value, but McEvoy is more polished, has softer hands, runs better routes and overall better special teamer. Punt blocking, he can do it all.

Has Williams shown much over the middle? I like the effort by Kasen with the opportunities he's being given. But, dropping that pass in the bread basket? They already know what they've got with McEvoy. Who is the better blocking WR?

I like Kasen, but would be a mistake to part with McEvoy.

I'm more with this.

Kasen basically has only produced with the fade route. I want to see him do other routes. His release is always the same. He can't just be a fade specialist.

I'm not ready to say he's made the team until he can demonstrate he can be an even halfway complete WR. Need to see more.

McEvoy is a better ST player, and can be featured at WR and TE. Bigger. Shows more complete ability. Kasen however does show a very real ability for the red line fade. And that's a pattern Seattle LOVES.

Tough call. But right now I gotta go with McEvoy. But that's pretty soft.

There's absolutely no reason why we can't take both. Why is a late 3rd round receiver who has shown nothing and got injured early Friday suddenly a lock on everyone's list? Darboh could be IR'd or flat out released. Crazy? Chris Harper was a 4th and cut. What has Darboh actually shown that has enamored anyone and proven that he's earned a spot over both Williams and McEvoy?

I stand by my assessment that in addition to his leaping ability, because Williams proved he can contribute on ST, he's worthy of a spot. Just a fade specialist? Alright then, that's good to have in the arsenal considering our piss-poor RZ TD% the last couple years. If people think that to earn a 53 spot you have to be an accomplished receiver in all routes, have a speed burst, size, strength and a ST all-pro that's an unrealistic expectation.

 

[SmokinHawk]

Interesting observation, OP. I'll have to re-watch the game and look at that tackle you're talking about.

Were it not for this team's best-in-generations defense, it would be remembered for legendary special teams play. They get a frustrating number of penalties in the field position game, but they have had won many games with that unit on the field.

 

[Attyla the Hawk]

I'd agree on Darboh. Although that's based on the fact he hasn't produced in preseason. Practice counts too and it seems he's produced much more there.

Seattle should be comfortable trying to stash Darboh on PS. Every team has a Darboh on it's roster they want to develop. He seems a pretty generic development prospect. But as I said, that determination will factor in how they fare in practice.

 

[Siouxhawk]

Imagine if Terrelle Pryor had heeded Pete and John's advice and dedicated himself to being a wide receiver then?

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Kasen basically has only produced with the fade route. I want to see him do other routes. His release is always the same. He can't just be a fade specialist.

Why not? That's all we run in this offense.

Okay, okay, I exaggerate. Quite a bit, actually. But redline catches and contested balls are a big component of Pete's and Russ's wish list and always have been. They always talk about that. And with Kasen now making noise at the part that was really cementing McEvoy's value - special teams - I see him wedging his foot in the door.

I dunno, we'll see. Any combination of Darboh, Williams, and McEvoy would fail to surprise me at this point.

 

[olyfan63]

Doesn't anyone remember the preseason game last year where Boykin threw up a jump ball to McEvoy on the last play of the game, and McEvoy brought it down for a TD and a chance to tie or win the game? Then Seattle went for 2 and got the win, in a game where KC outplayed them? Yeah, preseason, but so what.

McEvoy made the jump ball look easy even with a DB draped all over him, doing everything short of mugging him to stop the catch.

 

[randomation]

Well, you bring up route tree. Again, like you have the opportunity to see everywhere these guys run.
Williams being tightly covered may be strictly dependent on the DB in coverage.
I find it hard to believe at 6'5 230 McEvoy is better at getting separation based on speed. He was left wide open last year for that TD, maybe people just don't respect him ?
Williams has been making contested catches the past 2 weeks. If it came down to it, I'd like the guy who's proven to battle for the ball in the air.
McEvoy hasn't shown that.
Matter of fact, I don't know the last time we've seen anybody fight for balls like Kasen. Some of that may be on Russ' throws too, namely that TD.
For the record, I'm a big McEvoy fan and want to see him around. These are two very different players tho.

McEvoy is a 4.4 player he doesn't have the typical drop in speed you see with height he just runs so effortlessly it looks like he isn't going fast. This is a guy who started at three distinct positions for a perennial top twenty program. He might just be a little bit special.