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RichNhansom":250k0ppe said:
Geidi do you know what a hail Mary is? Your making it very obvious that you went to the stat sheet to try and dig something up you could use but all you accomplished is to make yourself look uniformed.

As for the scoring or not in the first half Lynch was playing on a sprained ankle compliments of FedEx field and had a critical fumble in that game. We also were on week two of back to back east coast travel and playing at a 10:00am start. Comparatively your offense was basically healthy minus Manningham and Williams of which neither were starters or game changers, playing your first week of travel at a later start time.

How do you think you would have done if Gore wete playing injured? Or at a 10:00am start? Remember the only team you could beat at 10:00am was the Jets.

The whole season was a hairs breath from us being the #2 seed and you being the #5. If you had to play NE or GB at 10:00am that probably isn't the case.

Hail mary plays are plays of desperation, hence the reference to religion. Washington was doing pretty well untill RG3 got hurt, from what I remember. Point being there's a lot of luck involved in the playoffs, and moving forward to the next rounds. Both the 'Hawks and the '9ers were injured. At that time of the year everybody is injured. Coaching becomes really important at that point to hide weaknesses and exploit the other teams injury/weaknesses. As for the 10am start, yes there is an effect on the circadian rythm, if two teams are so equal that a 10 am start will affect the outcome - that means they are quite even. There is a lot of luck involved in winning superbowls. 49ers had I think 20 playoff appearances, and only 5 superbwols to show for it. Seattle was just unlucky in last years round.
 

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theENGLISHseahawk":f3qtqqkx said:
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This is a frankly laughable and weak suggestion, dripping in filthy 49ers homerism.

For starters, Russell Wilson just equalled the record for touchdown passes in a season by a rookie. Equal with Peyton Manning. He beat the other two storied rookie QB's, including Andrew Luck who threw many more times in a pass happy offense and happens to be a Harbaugh protege.

How much better exactly could Wilson be realistically?

If you're going to tell me he could've done even better, I need to know how exactly. I need specifics. I watched all of his game's last year and he couldn't have achieved any more. And if it wasn't for others letting him down in Atlanta with that shocking first half performance, we would've had another Niners-Hawks game in the Bay. The fact it was even remotely possible by the end of the divisional round was all down to Wilson.

And if QB coaching ability is enhanced in such a fashion by experience in the league, why aren't all the top NFL head coaches all former top quarterbacks? Why is Kaepernick - as brilliant an athlete and dynamic playmaker that he is - still a dear in headlights at times when he faces pressure? Immediately looking down at the line instead of keeping his eyes downfield, he was consistently distracted under duress last year - the one big flaw to an otherwise sensational first year as a starter. But surely he should have flawless technique by now having enjoyed two years under Harbaugh's leadership?

For what it's worth, you'll struggle to find one glaring issue with Wilson's game.

I only watched a couple of russell's games, so I clearly dont' know his game as completely as you do. What I will say is that between the Redskin playoff game and the Atlanta Playoff game, there was that turnover by Wilson. Not saying Harbaugh would have had done a better job of coaching vs bevel and smith, but that was the difference between the Redskin game and the Atlanta game, I think. Wilson had no turnovers vs the Redskins while he had one against Atlanta. His game can improve, as young as he is, and as fantastic a QB he is already. All the young QB's can improve their game with better coaching.

Now the real question you are asking is why would Harbaugh be a better coach than Bevell? Personally, I think the difference would be on the O Line. I think either you'd have better O line personnel or deeper O Line depth. Both Bevell and Harbaugh believe a QBs best friend is a good strong running game, and while Bevell would probably scheme as well as anybody in the NFL, he's not the HC. I believe that Bevell, if he was HC (like Harbaugh is) would have shored up that O Line. Again, I have nothing but respect for what Bevell did in Green Bay, Minnesota, and with you last year. I'm a bit disappointed that the lack of depth on the Seattle O Line wasn't addressed real well this year.


No, the request I made was for you to give me specific examples where Harbaugh's influence would've led to a superior performance from Wilson last year compared to the collective efforts of Carroll, Bevell and Cable. And I'm still waiting.

I'm not being funny, but you're clearly well out of your depth commenting on the Seahawks. As others have noted, the "turnover" against Atlanta was a hail mary final play of the game. Clearly you're just looking at the box score and cobbling together an opinion on the move. And Seattle's offensive line was more than adequate last year, so the whole second paragraph makes no sense to me at all.
I would think it's pretty obvious. I mean Wilson would have been named starter earlier, and would have been given the entire playbook and not be babied the way the Carroll coaching staff handled Russell in the first half of the season, that's one example.

I would also think that Harbaugh would have adjusted faster to what Atlanta was doing and got Russell in a better position to score in the first half of the atlanta game.

The hail mary is but one example of the troubles the seahawks had against the Nolan defense. We had the advantage of the fact that some of our offensive assistant coaches played against the Nolan defense in practice when Nolan was our HC.
 

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This discourse is wonderful. I just wonder how this will change in September and when you and your's go back under your bridge in December? I am patient.......I am sure Eric Wright and Charley Martin will save you.

I am being serious here no sarcasm, just confidence and reality. Isn't this Eric Wright dude a horrible radio announcer currently spewing ignorance on NFLN? He played in 1990 or somesuch when I just started to care about football, correct?
 

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Giedi":7l5z69qo said:
I would think it's pretty obvious. I mean Wilson would have been named starter earlier, and would have been given the entire playbook and not be babied the way the Carroll coaching staff handled Russell in the first half of the season, that's one example.

I would also think that Harbaugh would have adjusted faster to what Atlanta was doing and got Russell in a better position to score in the first half of the atlanta game.

The hail mary is but one example of the troubles the seahawks had against the Nolan defense. We had the advantage of the fact that some of our offensive assistant coaches played against the Nolan defense in practice when Nolan was our HC.

What on earth are you talking about now?

"The hail mary is but one example of the troubles the seahawks had against the Nolan defense"

Do you even know what a hail mary is? Seriously?

One of the main reasons Wilson achieved the level of success he did was because he wasn't given too much to chew in the initial weeks. That's called good coaching. When he was ready, they opened things up. That's not rocket science, most coaches treat rookie QB's in the same way.

And we already know you didn't watch the Atlanta game because you didn't realise Wilson's interception was a hail mary. So you passing comment on what Harbaugh would've done is silly.

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KCHawkGirl":2b0n0cf6 said:
This discourse is wonderful. I just wonder how this will change in September and when you and your's go back under your bridge in December? I am patient.......I am sure Eric Wright and Charley Martin will save you.

I am being serious here no sarcasm, just confidence and reality. Isn't this Eric Wright dude a horrible radio announcer currently spewing ignorance on NFLN? He played in 1990 or somesuch when I just started to care about football, correct?

I certainly agree with what you are saying, but are you talking about Eric Davis? He was a stud DB for the Whiners and on several occasions have seen him give the Hawks the nod over SF, which is saying something considering his ties to SF.
 

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loafoftatupu":33ud7rwn said:
KCHawkGirl":33ud7rwn said:
This discourse is wonderful. I just wonder how this will change in September and when you and your's go back under your bridge in December? I am patient.......I am sure Eric Wright and Charley Martin will save you.

I am being serious here no sarcasm, just confidence and reality. Isn't this Eric Wright dude a horrible radio announcer currently spewing ignorance on NFLN? He played in 1990 or somesuch when I just started to care about football, correct?

I certainly agree with what you are saying, but are you talking about Eric Davis? He was a stud DB for the Whiners and on several occasions have seen him give the Hawks the nod over SF, which is saying something considering his tiesto SF.
You're right, I was pretty sure that they had a CB with the last name of Wright in the 1990's. Davis was good, maybe their last until currently. But he's still a horrible radio guy and even worse on NFLN.

Maybe it's because I hate NFLN's obvious "you take one side and I'll take the other" approach. I can't tell if it's their real view so I ignore it.
 

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KCHawkGirl":3nt3hnxy said:
You're right, I was pretty sure that they had a CB with the last name of Wright in the 1990's. Davis was good, maybe their last until currently. But he's still a horrible radio guy and even worse on NFLN.


They did have a guy named Eric Wright as well, he just isn't on the NFL Network. You are totally right about Eric Davis. He is a big time homer and brings up the niners whenever he can get away with it.
 

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Thank God. I thought I might be in the early stages of Alzheimer's. Just to be clear I don't know as much football in general or the early history of the Seahawks as many here. I actually know more about the early 1980's 49ers given that's where I grew up as a child before I moved to the Pacific Northwest.
 

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SoHo9erFan":2sypexnb said:
Why does Kap kissing his tattoos after a TD piss you guys off so much???
If you're going to troll at least make it entertaining for us. You are boring even me for godsake!
 

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SoHo9erFan":1n342szg said:
Why does Kap kissing his tattoos after a TD piss you guys off so much???
Can't speak for anyone else, but look at me bullshit does not belong at QB. Cam Newton is a worse QB for wanting attention, and it isn't going to do Kaep any good either.
 

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Complete and utter honesty here, I've had a Seahawk tat on my right bicep since 1992 (bandwagon, I know), and as a goof I'd always kiss it. I'm not joking, been doing it for a decade. I do it ironically, always have, to strangers to make my friends or bitches laugh.

True bill.
 

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pehawk":1l64wmzo said:
Complete and utter honesty here, I've had a Seahawk tat on my right bicep since 1992 (bandwagon, I know), and as a goof I'd always kiss it. I'm not joking, been doing it for a decade. I do it ironically, always have, to strangers to make my friends or bitches laugh.

True bill.

Good thing you aren't the Hawks QB, douchebag.
 

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It's a mockery of douchebags, that hadn't even come to be yet, BUT everyone got the joke. Then, Kaep arrived, and embodied the douchiness I had always mocked.

No shit, when Kap started getting love, I got texts from ex's saying "he does that thing in the car you do to annoy people".

Lets just face facts, when it comes to douchebaggery, I'm so ahead of my time my parents haven't met yet.
 

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KCHawkGirl":1qdz471m said:
SoHo9erFan":1qdz471m said:
Why does Kap kissing his tattoos after a TD piss you guys off so much???
If you're going to troll at least make it entertaining for us. You are boring even me for godsake!

How is my question trolling? To accuse Kap of being a douchebag for kissing his biceps is a fallacy. The guy kissed his tattoos after a TD because a reporter ripped him to shreds for being a tatted up QB. Kap took offense and that TD celebration was a response to the criticism. ESPN, NFLN, and other media outlets put a spotlight on the celebration and Kap apparently adopted it as a routine celebration.

If you follow the sequence of events I don't think it is fair to judge Kap as a "bicep kissing douchebag frat-star" as a lot of people are making him out to be.

If you want to judge him for the way he dresses or conducts himself in interviews or for even having tattoos in the first place then that is fair. But don't judge him for something you are clearly ignorant to
 

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SoHo9erFan":9fy8f9me said:
KCHawkGirl":9fy8f9me said:
SoHo9erFan":9fy8f9me said:
Why does Kap kissing his tattoos after a TD piss you guys off so much???
If you're going to troll at least make it entertaining for us. You are boring even me for godsake!

How is my question trolling? To accuse Kap of being a douchebag for kissing his biceps is a fallacy. The guy kissed his tattoos after a TD because a reporter ripped him to shreds for being a tatted up QB. Kap took offense and that TD celebration was a response to the criticism. ESPN, NFLN, and other media outlets put a spotlight on the celebration and Kap apparently adopted it as a routine celebration.

If you follow the sequence of events I don't think it is fair to judge Kap as a "bicep kissing douchebag frat-star" as a lot of people are making him out to be.
Moot point. The steady stream of dipshittery from your QB has made the arm kissing just one piece of evidence. Just admit your QB is a DB and move on. It hardly matters on the field.
 

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SoHo9erFan":y6nnh82h said:
KCHawkGirl":y6nnh82h said:
SoHo9erFan":y6nnh82h said:
Why does Kap kissing his tattoos after a TD piss you guys off so much???
If you're going to troll at least make it entertaining for us. You are boring even me for godsake!

How is my question trolling? To accuse Kap of being a douchebag for kissing his biceps is a fallacy. The guy kissed his tattoos after a TD because a reporter ripped him to shreds for being a tatted up QB. Kap took offense and that TD celebration was a response to the criticism. ESPN, NFLN, and other media outlets put a spotlight on the celebration and Kap apparently adopted it as a routine celebration.

If you follow the sequence of events I don't think it is fair to judge Kap as a "bicep kissing douchebag frat-star" as a lot of people are making him out to be.

If you want to judge him for the way he dresses or conducts himself in interviews or for even having tattoos in the first place then that is fair. But don't judge him for something you are clearly ignorant to

So what you're telling us is that Kaepernick is so easily rattled by criticism that he resorts to passive-aggressive maneuvers on the field? That's got to make you feel comfortable about his maturity.

At least we're off the whole "Kissing the scriptures" angle. I mean, it's not like posing for the ESPN soft-core porn issue would contradict THAT statement.
 

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Sarlacc83":zx1g3zx5 said:
So what you're telling us is that Kaepernick is so easily rattled by criticism that he resorts to passive-aggressive maneuvers on the field? That's got to make you feel comfortable about his maturity.

At least we're off the whole "Kissing the scriptures" angle. I mean, it's not like posing for the ESPN soft-core porn issue would contradict THAT statement.

This post literally made me lol. It reeks of irony
 

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SoHo9erFan":2d2eqpor said:
Sarlacc83":2d2eqpor said:
So what you're telling us is that Kaepernick is so easily rattled by criticism that he resorts to passive-aggressive maneuvers on the field? That's got to make you feel comfortable about his maturity.

At least we're off the whole "Kissing the scriptures" angle. I mean, it's not like posing for the ESPN soft-core porn issue would contradict THAT statement.

This post literally made me lol. It reeks of irony
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
 

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