Marshawn intends to retire

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firebee":13726m5p said:
Marshawn is doing the Seahawks such a huge favor with his retiement. Instead of trying to figure out what to do with him in regards to his contract, releasing him or trading him; Marshawn just left 5 million guaranteed on the table and cleared 11 million in cap for the Seahawks. Granted, I imagine he wasn't or isn't thinking about that in regards to his retirement... or maybe he is. Regardless, it's a major offseason problem averted if he is retiring.

Ring of Honor and Future Hall of Famer. Beastquake belongs in Canton and 24 should definitely be retired in Seattle.
If not mistaken his cap hit will be the same if he retires as if he was cut. Right? I don't think retiring just makes the signing bonus disappear
 

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massari":m9ghtere said:
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Marshawn is doing the Seahawks such a huge favor with his retiement. Instead of trying to figure out what to do with him in regards to his contract, releasing him or trading him; Marshawn just left 5 million guaranteed on the table and cleared 11 million in cap for the Seahawks. Granted, I imagine he wasn't or isn't thinking about that in regards to his retirement... or maybe he is. Regardless, it's a major offseason problem averted if he is retiring.

Ring of Honor and Future Hall of Famer. Beastquake belongs in Canton and 24 should definitely be retired in Seattle.
Isn't he going to retire after he's released?

If he retires before he's released, Paul Allen should thank him by giving him a "job" that would pay him the 5M he left on the table. No cap hit and Marshawn gets paid.

I wonder if that's legal to make an agreement with Lynch to retire before released so there's no cap hit and then pay him the 5M for a "job" (hangout and be a mentor or something)?

I don't see why it would be against the rules and yes, I absolutely think Lynch should be given a job as a RB coach or assistant offensive quality control specialist that slaps Bevell upside the head when he tries to call a passing play to a quick slant on 2nd down from the 1 yard line.
 

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Seen where he played seven games with that abdominal injury and a pulled hamstring last year and was toughing it out, everyone that said he had lost a step can now know why it appeared that way. He may say retire now but if he can be healthy for spring he may reconsider for one last run. Many players change their mind when the season comes upon them after the aches and pains have diminished.
 

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Hawkfan77":2idhfhqy said:
firebee":2idhfhqy said:
Marshawn is doing the Seahawks such a huge favor with his retiement. Instead of trying to figure out what to do with him in regards to his contract, releasing him or trading him; Marshawn just left 5 million guaranteed on the table and cleared 11 million in cap for the Seahawks. Granted, I imagine he wasn't or isn't thinking about that in regards to his retirement... or maybe he is. Regardless, it's a major offseason problem averted if he is retiring.

Ring of Honor and Future Hall of Famer. Beastquake belongs in Canton and 24 should definitely be retired in Seattle.
If not mistaken his cap hit will be the same if he retires as if he was cut. Right? I don't think retiring just makes the signing bonus disappear

When a player receives a signing bonus it is essentially a prepayment of salary that is contingent upon the player fulfilling his contract. If released from that contract he keeps the signing bonus because he fulfilled his obligation and the team chose to terminate the deal. This is common in the NFL. However in some instances a player chooses to walk away from the NFL and not fulfill his obligation to the team. When this occurs a team has the right to demand repayment of the remaining salary cap charges attributed to signing bonus money for the current league year as well as all future league years covered by the contract.
 

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firebee":2lfycp97 said:
Hawkfan77":2lfycp97 said:
firebee":2lfycp97 said:
Marshawn is doing the Seahawks such a huge favor with his retiement. Instead of trying to figure out what to do with him in regards to his contract, releasing him or trading him; Marshawn just left 5 million guaranteed on the table and cleared 11 million in cap for the Seahawks. Granted, I imagine he wasn't or isn't thinking about that in regards to his retirement... or maybe he is. Regardless, it's a major offseason problem averted if he is retiring.

Ring of Honor and Future Hall of Famer. Beastquake belongs in Canton and 24 should definitely be retired in Seattle.
If not mistaken his cap hit will be the same if he retires as if he was cut. Right? I don't think retiring just makes the signing bonus disappear

When a player receives a signing bonus it is essentially a prepayment of salary that is contingent upon the player fulfilling his contract. If released from that contract he keeps the signing bonus because he fulfilled his obligation and the team chose to terminate the deal. This is common in the NFL. However in some instances a player chooses to walk away from the NFL and not fulfill his obligation to the team. When this occurs a team has the right to demand repayment of the remaining salary cap charges attributed to signing bonus money for the current league year as well as all future league years covered by the contract.

They have the right but how often does clawback happen?
 

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The only thing I'm not sure about is how it would work if the team chose to eat the bonus. Could we choose to pay him his bonus based on the conditions of the contract, which would clear 9 million in cap this year and 7 million in cap next year with us paying him 2.5 million in bonus this year and a 3 million bonus next year or would the league force the entire 5.5 million dollar bonus onto the cap this year if we chose to not ask for repayment of the remaining bonus.
 

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mrt144":2di5eaaw said:
firebee":2di5eaaw said:
Hawkfan77":2di5eaaw said:
firebee":2di5eaaw said:
Marshawn is doing the Seahawks such a huge favor with his retiement. Instead of trying to figure out what to do with him in regards to his contract, releasing him or trading him; Marshawn just left 5 million guaranteed on the table and cleared 11 million in cap for the Seahawks. Granted, I imagine he wasn't or isn't thinking about that in regards to his retirement... or maybe he is. Regardless, it's a major offseason problem averted if he is retiring.

Ring of Honor and Future Hall of Famer. Beastquake belongs in Canton and 24 should definitely be retired in Seattle.
If not mistaken his cap hit will be the same if he retires as if he was cut. Right? I don't think retiring just makes the signing bonus disappear

When a player receives a signing bonus it is essentially a prepayment of salary that is contingent upon the player fulfilling his contract. If released from that contract he keeps the signing bonus because he fulfilled his obligation and the team chose to terminate the deal. This is common in the NFL. However in some instances a player chooses to walk away from the NFL and not fulfill his obligation to the team. When this occurs a team has the right to demand repayment of the remaining salary cap charges attributed to signing bonus money for the current league year as well as all future league years covered by the contract.

They have the right but how often does clawback happen?

To be honest... This doesn't happen very often because players usually don't retire when they have guaranteed money left on the table. Go figure... Lynch has to make retirement interesting too.
 

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Personally, I think someone else had the right idea... Get repayment on the bonus to keep from muddling up issues in the CBA and give him a job as an assistant coach of some sort to get him the bonus due if we didn't ask for repayment. Just avoid trying to muddle with the league on the semantics of how the bonus gets paid and get things worked out in house.
 

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mrt144":35u2nx6p said:
They have the right but how often does clawback happen?

Taking into consideration all the money that the Seahawks threw away on guys like Harvin, Flynn, Williams Etc. I doubt they would want the fallout by trying to recoup from a player that DELIVERED his all , even when he was playing while injured..........Think many fans would be on board with a move like that? Yeah, me neither. :lol:
 

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firebee":3jigxvju said:
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They have the right but how often does clawback happen?

To be honest... This doesn't happen very often because players usually don't retire when they have guaranteed money left on the table. Go figure... Lynch has to make retirement interesting too.
SF just did it with Borland if I'm not mistaken.

I highly doubt the Hawks try to get anything back from Lynch. They will have dead money from him
 

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firebee":356x5w2p said:
Personally, I think someone else had the right idea... Get repayment on the bonus to keep from muddling up issues in the CBA and give him a job as an assistant coach of some sort to get him the bonus due if we didn't ask for repayment. Just avoid trying to muddle with the league on the semantics of how the bonus gets paid and get things worked out in house.
Pretty sure that's not allowed. NFL has rules in place to keep team from scurrting the salary cap. It's the same reason why the hawks can't give Wilson the league minimum deal and then Microsoft give him a 100 mil endorsement deal.
 

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peachesenregalia":wurrixbz said:
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Good for him, leaves when still reasonably healthy and as the 3rd best Seahawk RB of all time.
3rd best? Lmao. This one part is a topic of its own. 3rd best :lol: :lol: :lol: um no..

Looks like you hooked a couple, Drew. Keep fishing, son.

Caught myself a ban last time this topic came up :)

I do think it's criminal how few current Seahawk fans got to really see the magnificence that was Curt Warner.
 

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Yeah, I came here to post the same thing. Kinda makes me sad even though we knew it was probably coming.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MoneyLynch/status/696525541826924546[/tweet]
 

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and just to add Sherm's response

[tweet]https://twitter.com/RSherman_25/status/696527786379386881[/tweet]
 

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