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rcaido":1pliryo6 said:I really dont understand how anyone cannot like this trade. We get rid of a injury prone, dont even know why he was pro bowler Unger. Get an elite TE/receiver in return.
razgriz737":1qsw6vay said:I think this is the best way to look at it. Unger for a 4th? Sure. If Graham is available at pick 31 of the draft this year, do you take him? Yeah, you do.KARAVARUS":1qsw6vay said:I'm looking at this as two separate transactions... Unger for a 4th rounder pick. DONE. Graham for the 31st pick in the 2015 draft. Also DONE.
Not sure why we are upset in any fashion over this deal... You cannot deny the skill Jimmy brings to the sport. I just wish he wasn't a douch-taco. Maybe the blue and green will change him. (((hopes)))
Our Man in Chicago":1aa7tasu said:Hope he learns how to block. Miller was nails in that department.
45Hawker":2q7noqa3 said:I agree with all of this. I live in New Orleans and have watched a lot of Saints games. Jimmy has good top speed, but I wouldn't consider him quick off the line. He struggles with press and physicality at the LoS. He needs time to get open. (although, he does not need a large window - he's a beast at battling/catching the ball when covered tightly, and Breez can put it there. Can wilson?)IBleedBlueAndGreen":2q7noqa3 said:If you want to utilize Jimmy Graham correctly you have to allow him time to run a route and get open. The problem of having less than adequate time for Russell to throw is only going to be enhanced by Unger (and Carpenter) not being in the mix. While it's awesome to have a guy of Graham's receiving ability in this offense unless they now somehow address the offensive line in a major way I don't like this move at all.
I'm intrigued and excited about what he brings - but his style of play minimizes play calling, IMO. With the saints, it got to be pretty predictable when they were going to run the ball: When Jimmy wasn't on the field, and when they were going to pass: when jimmy was.
jlwaters1":2746459m said:Our Man in Chicago":2746459m said:Hope he learns how to block. Miller was nails in that department.
Except he was only available for 3 games. Unger was out 13 games over the last 2 years. I'll take a promising draft pick than someone who's constantly banged up and not available.
2 things can be counted on. 1. Graham is good especially in the red zone. 2. Umger will miss time. I'mont sure why people are acting like Unger is someone who is always healthy. He missed 13 games the last 2 years.MontanaHawk05":m2a8x96w said:rcaido":m2a8x96w said:I really dont understand how anyone cannot like this trade. We get rid of a injury prone, dont even know why he was pro bowler Unger. Get an elite TE/receiver in return.
You might not want to assume that everyone was just stupid for voting for Unger. Our running game went from solid to unstoppable when he was in. Dude knew the calls and he knew his blocking.
The biggest question is, will Graham be worth losing our first-rounder AND resetting all Unger's experience (not a small thing at the center position)? I'm not worried about Bevell's competence with him, because I suspect a lot of reasons for Bevell's limitations were really personnel shortcomings (i.e. lack of speed and talent of just Graham's variety). They couldn't do much without those raw qualities, and now they can do more.
But Unger and a first? That's a big weight to balance out.
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Our Man in Chicago":1gagq6cj said:jlwaters1":1gagq6cj said:Our Man in Chicago":1gagq6cj said:Hope he learns how to block. Miller was nails in that department.
Except he was only available for 3 games. Unger was out 13 games over the last 2 years. I'll take a promising draft pick than someone who's constantly banged up and not available.
True enough. But Graham will still have to block upfield for Lynch. We're still a run-based team.
SomersetHawk":3v3xo46m said:Sure, that's a nicer way of looking at it and all, but there's more to it. Graham's a 28 year old earning considerably more than a 1st round pick, handicapping future additions. A 4th's not much for our best O-lineman either, even if his health couldn't always be relied on. We've addressed a need, but created another one in doing so.
Our Man in Chicago":22iygxni said:jlwaters1":22iygxni said:Our Man in Chicago":22iygxni said:Hope he learns how to block. Miller was nails in that department.
Except he was only available for 3 games. Unger was out 13 games over the last 2 years. I'll take a promising draft pick than someone who's constantly banged up and not available.
True enough. But Graham will still have to block upfield for Lynch. We're still a run-based team.
A-Dog":60dj4tio said:Our backups have performed pretty well when he's been out.
Hawkfan77":rk834aqw said:2 things can be counted on. 1. Graham is good especially in the red zone. 2. Umger will miss time. I'mont sure why people are acting like Unger is someone who is always healthy. He missed 13 games the last 2 years.MontanaHawk05":rk834aqw said:rcaido":rk834aqw said:I really dont understand how anyone cannot like this trade. We get rid of a injury prone, dont even know why he was pro bowler Unger. Get an elite TE/receiver in return.
You might not want to assume that everyone was just stupid for voting for Unger. Our running game went from solid to unstoppable when he was in. Dude knew the calls and he knew his blocking.
The biggest question is, will Graham be worth losing our first-rounder AND resetting all Unger's experience (not a small thing at the center position)? I'm not worried about Bevell's competence with him, because I suspect a lot of reasons for Bevell's limitations were really personnel shortcomings (i.e. lack of speed and talent of just Graham's variety). They couldn't do much without those raw qualities, and now they can do more.
But Unger and a first? That's a big weight to balance out.