NFL now looking into situation W/ Sherman’s MCL

[SoulfishHawk]

Sherm should have some regrets. He acted like a 5 year old for a good portion of the season.

 

[twisted_steel2]

You guys see what Sowell tweeted out?? Interesting stuff.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Bradley60Sowell/status/822189232286531586[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Bradley60Sowell/status/822189694729486337[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Bradley60Sowell/status/822191653293264897[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Bradley60Sowell/status/822198969686249473[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Bradley60Sowell/status/822199221298331649[/tweet]

How many times were the Seahawks in trouble for OTA violations??

 

[LeftHandSmoke]

Sherm should have some regrets. He acted like a 5 year old for a good portion of the season.

Bingo - The NFL needs a new acronym for the Already Silly List. 5YO.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Love it

 

[seahawkfreak]

"Regret" in that link was made up by the article writer, RS himself has said no such thing.

I thought Pete said it as well but seems things are a bit convoluted right now.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SheilKapadia/status/821054925153177600[/tweet]

Ok, but Pete didn't suggest the 'regret' was anything about not having had surgery. To read that into it would be, again, speculative..

agree

 

[ludakrishna]

We've lost practice days the past several seasons due to Pete and now this. If we lose a draft pick, there need to be consequences for him. A short leash would be appteciated.

:229031_banghead:

 

[Attyla the Hawk]

I cannot find anything on whether Sherman is getting surgery now for his "significant" MCL injury. Here is an interesting statement. [urltargetblank]http://sportsnaut.com/2017/01/richard-sherman-regrets-playing-mcl-injury-much-season/[/urltargetblank]

"On the one hand, it’s commendable that Sherman tried to gut out the season to pursue a championship with his teammates. On the other hand, perhaps he would have been better off getting his knee repaired when he was first injured. Then perhaps he might have been able to recover in time for the Seahawks’ playoff run."

That's because MCL injuries can heal on their own. ACL injuries cannot and must always be surgically repaired.

Here's a decent primer on MCL injuries:

http://www.healthline.com/health/medial ... f-the-knee

Would expect it was a grade 1. A sprain. Especially considering the lack of rest and the absence of a brace.

It seems rather doubtful that the injury was indeed 'significant'. Considering that a grade 2 MCL injury has joint stability implications -- and that the cornerback position puts probably the most strain on the knee with turning, it's highly unlikely that we're talking grade 2. Because that would have put Sherman at significant risk of injuring the knee further.

Considering the difference in activity between Sherman and Wilson -- it's assuredly not anything like the same injury suffered by Russell.

 

[Seymour]

I cannot find anything on whether Sherman is getting surgery now for his "significant" MCL injury. Here is an interesting statement. [urltargetblank]http://sportsnaut.com/2017/01/richard-sherman-regrets-playing-mcl-injury-much-season/[/urltargetblank]

"On the one hand, it’s commendable that Sherman tried to gut out the season to pursue a championship with his teammates. On the other hand, perhaps he would have been better off getting his knee repaired when he was first injured. Then perhaps he might have been able to recover in time for the Seahawks’ playoff run."

That's because MCL injuries can heal on their own. ACL injuries cannot and must always be surgically repaired.

Here's a decent primer on MCL injuries:

http://www.healthline.com/health/medial ... f-the-knee

Would expect it was a grade 1. A sprain. Especially considering the lack of rest and the absence of a brace.

It seems rather doubtful that the injury was indeed 'significant'. Considering that a grade 2 MCL injury has joint stability implications -- and that the cornerback position puts probably the most strain on the knee with turning, it's highly unlikely that we're talking grade 2. Because that would have put Sherman at significant risk of injuring the knee further.

Considering the difference in activity between Sherman and Wilson -- it's assuredly not anything like the same injury suffered by Russell.

Then this was just another Pete lie because these are the exact words out of Pete's mouth.

"He had an MCL problem that he could play with, like Russell did. He had the same problem Russell did he made it through it,"

 

[Attyla the Hawk]

Then this was just another Pete lie because these are the exact words out of Pete's mouth.

"He had an MCL problem that he could play with, like Russell did. He had the same problem Russell did he made it through it,"

Yes, this is my contention.

Just look at the evidence. Wilson gimped along in grotesque fashion, with little twisting on the knee and sported a massive knee brace.

Sherman didn't even have a brace on in practice. Never wore a supporting brace (or sleeve if I recall).

Pete's embellished a great deal. The evidence doesn't support that these were remotely the same injury.

Pete throws out 'significant' and 'legit' with total disregard. I mean his evaluation and descriptions of when guys will play or how hurt they are are not merely cloudy ... but at this point we can just call it complete BS. We even assume that here on this forum every time he has a presser talking about the injured guys. Literally NOBODY believes his assertions until the inactive list comes out.

It's nothing new. Nor is it bad. It just is. So yeah I think Pete embellished this to help deflect criticism (mostly self inflicted) that Sherman faced this season. I think the evidence of what we saw with Sherman doesn't match up. If it did, then we would have been risking Sherman blowing out a knee and being unavailable for 2017. Nobody in the organization would allow Pete to risk that. And given how cautious Pete is with injuries -- it doesn't match up with how he handles significant injuries either.

Pretty sure the medical will prove that it wasn't significant. Just Pete trying to protect his player.

 

[Seymour]

Then this was just another Pete lie because these are the exact words out of Pete's mouth.

"He had an MCL problem that he could play with, like Russell did. He had the same problem Russell did he made it through it,"

Yes, this is my contention.

Just look at the evidence. Wilson gimped along in grotesque fashion, with little twisting on the knee and sported a massive knee brace.

Sherman didn't even have a brace on in practice. Never wore a supporting brace (or sleeve if I recall).

Pete's embellished a great deal. The evidence doesn't support that these were remotely the same injury.

Pete throws out 'significant' and 'legit' with total disregard. I mean his evaluation and descriptions of when guys will play or how hurt they are are not merely cloudy ... but at this point we can just call it complete BS. We even assume that here on this forum every time he has a presser talking about the injured guys. Literally NOBODY believes his assertions until the inactive list comes out.

It's nothing new. Nor is it bad. It just is. So yeah I think Pete embellished this to help deflect criticism (mostly self inflicted) that Sherman faced this season. I think the evidence of what we saw with Sherman doesn't match up. If it did, then we would have been risking Sherman blowing out a knee and being unavailable for 2017. Nobody in the organization would allow Pete to risk that. And given how cautious Pete is with injuries -- it doesn't match up with how he handles significant injuries either.

Pretty sure the medical will prove that it wasn't significant. Just Pete trying to protect his player.

Well I'll admit I'm good with that theory also, as that is what I originally concluded as well. Problem is now the words significant or noteworthy and the fact he said he was less than 100% may be enough for God to find us guilty. It also is not going to help by the fact Sherm takes issue with Goodell and the league on a regular basis and broadcasts that to the world through the media that he also takes issue with....(when they ask him the wrong question).

 

[LeftHandSmoke]

When Pete said 'the same problem' as RW, he was likely meaning 'the same area' (knee).

It is blatantly obvious by Sherm's agility it was not anywhere near as significant an issue as what RW had going on.

 

[LolaRox]

Does anyone else think this might be Richard trying to make excuses for getting schooled by Jones and not having a very good year?

I've listened to enough Pete pressers to tell when he's not being completely honest, and I sniffed that out right away when he said "I guess I screwed up" when talking about Sherman's supposed sprained MCL.

Yes there is a gamesmanship angle here to not divulging Richard's injury because it helps the other team scheme against you, but I don't get that vibe here.

Pete knows what the janitor had for lunch, to say something silly like I screwed up hesitantly with a major injury just sounds to me like he's covering for Richard sucking.

You think Pete would totally make up an injury to cover for a player? Pete doesn't always give the entire story, coaches usually don't. but to flat out make up an injury? I don't think so. He would lose credibility with the team if he did so.

Richard certainly had some kind of injury, he mentions 'while I was rehabbing in the pool' in this episode of the Players Lounge (around 22:10)

http://www.seahawks.com/audio/2016/11/1 ... rd-sherman

Also, sometime around mid season, Sherm starting appearing on the injury report almost weekly as NIR - not injury related. If he was actually missing practice because of the knee injury then maybe the NFL will see that has a violation. It seems nitpicky to me because he was listed has missing/limited practice it's not like he wasn't practicing and not listed on the report.