Vancanhawksfan":2kowr3v7 said:
Marvin49":2kowr3v7 said:
Good player in the open field but always seemed a bit slow footed in traffic and ran WAY too high. I thought he might have a future returning kicks, but never really liked him as a RB. Lacked all the instincts of a RB at the LOS...as you might expect. Really had a knack tho for making the first guy miss.
Was looking forward to seeing what he could do with a year under his belt, but was way more interested in Carlos Hyde, Mike Davis, and Kelvin Taylor as RBs.
In all honestly (and I know the spin comments are coming) he was way more of a hype player than a legit player.
Big bonus tho....many of the aussie fans who professed that Haynes preseason performance was a much better indicator than a "lower form of competition...College Football" will disappear overnight. Yay. SO many of them argued that his preseason PROVED he was a future star.
...and Pehawk, I read that too, but I guess Fiji said he could compete afterall...so not sure who to believe there.
There are so many 49er posters like you who've said that he "lacked all the instincts of a RB at the LOS"...yet everyone knows that your offensive line was a dumpster fire. When it came to RB's like Davis who had a 2 yd/carry average and showed absolutely nothing at all in either preseason or regular season you guys are happy to say that "the sample size of 35 carries was too small to evaluate him", and happy to use the offensive line excuse for him, and so you're "more interested" in seeing how he can do with an improved offensive line going forward.
But none of you were "more interested" to see how "the foreigner" who had a better season average than the 4th round pick might do, or were "more interested" to give him a larger sample size than the 18 carries he had because I think you were more interested in having a pissing contest with the Aussies that came onto your board and proving to your Aussie friends that foreigners can't compete in an American sport.
Kelvin Taylor at 20lbs lighter and slower with a 4 yd/carry average in college last year isn't going to do shit for your team. All of you guys should have given Hayne a much better shake than you did.
Wow.
You can quote the numbers all you want but watching the games will tell you quite a bit more. Dress it up however you want, but most of Haynes yards as a RB came on runs with HUGE holes to run through. Once he got in the clear tho is when he showed what he IS good at...open field running.
Example...
Hayne fans saw those runs and thought "OMG, he's going to dominate the NFL too!!" and couldn't understand that so much of what you saw was NOT hayne but a very well blocked play. Too often tho when he got the ball he just ran into the line. Very little lateral movement and just kinda shuffled into the line.
Meanwhile...poor Mike Davis. LOL.
Davis didn't have a good year either. Worse than Haynes statistically, but he LOOKS the part. I don't mean walking off the bus...I mean he's far quicker and runs low to the ground. In BOTH players cases they had too few carries to say anything definitive about how they'd play moving forward, but I was FAR more interested in Mike Davis as a runner than Jarryd Hayne. I got to see Davis play in college and has a much larger pool of carries to form an opinion from even if they were in college. I said that when he was on the team as well and had many Aussies pretty annoyed at me for saying it.
MANY of those aussie fans maintained that Preseason NFL football was a much better indicator of NFL success than College football. Sorry...I just think thats total BS. Starters don't play, no gameplanning...just not the same thing IMO.
Where I really had some hopes for Hayne were as a return specialist. He ALWAYS seemed to make the first guy miss, had a killer stiff arm and was much bigger than your typical return man. Thats where I was hoping he could make his stanp this year.
BTW..."the foreigner"? Get that crap outta here. I couldn't care less where a guy is from if he can play. My criticism of Hayne is based on his play and his play alone. That tho is a PRIME example of why I'm happy to see alot of those aussie fans go. Their entire fandom was about ONE player, and a marginal NFL player at that. They HATED any player that played Jarryds position or the ST coach who "had it out for Jarryd".