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Seahawks are starting to rack up the compensatory picks for 2015. McDonald, OBS, Thurmond, maybe Breno, and we shall see about Golden.
TDOTSEAHAWK":2yoiiiu4 said:This is what good teams do. develop great players. Keep the keystones, allow others to leave - rack up picks, repeat the process. Pats have been doing it for 15 years.
MontanaHawk05":oly38ta1 said:TDOTSEAHAWK":oly38ta1 said:This is what good teams do. develop great players. Keep the keystones, allow others to leave - rack up picks, repeat the process. Pats have been doing it for 15 years.
And they haven't won a Super Bowl in 10.
I'm all for smart free agency, but I'd be worried if we hadn't retained Michael Bennett. Tate would be a lot easier to replace thanks to this particular draft, but MOAR PICKS isn't a panacea.
I think the Pats draft philosophy isn't anywhere near what the Seahawks is, nor is Petes philosophy of playing the young guys. In fact they seem to go pick from the old free agent scrap heap more than most. Completely different philosophies.MontanaHawk05":28djm3wo said:TDOTSEAHAWK":28djm3wo said:This is what good teams do. develop great players. Keep the keystones, allow others to leave - rack up picks, repeat the process. Pats have been doing it for 15 years.
And they haven't won a Super Bowl in 10.
I'm all for smart free agency, but I'd be worried if we hadn't retained Michael Bennett. Tate would be a lot easier to replace thanks to this particular draft, but MOAR PICKS isn't a panacea.
MontanaHawk05":24r50s1x said:TDOTSEAHAWK":24r50s1x said:This is what good teams do. develop great players. Keep the keystones, allow others to leave - rack up picks, repeat the process. Pats have been doing it for 15 years.
And they haven't won a Super Bowl in 10.
I'm all for smart free agency, but I'd be worried if we hadn't retained Michael Bennett. Tate would be a lot easier to replace thanks to this particular draft, but MOAR PICKS isn't a panacea.
Natethegreat":1qd5c079 said:I think the Pats draft philosophy isn't anywhere near what the Seahawks is, nor is Petes philosophy of playing the young guys. In fact they seem to go pick from the old free agent scrap heap more than most. Completely different philosophies.MontanaHawk05":1qd5c079 said:TDOTSEAHAWK":1qd5c079 said:This is what good teams do. develop great players. Keep the keystones, allow others to leave - rack up picks, repeat the process. Pats have been doing it for 15 years.
And they haven't won a Super Bowl in 10.
I'm all for smart free agency, but I'd be worried if we hadn't retained Michael Bennett. Tate would be a lot easier to replace thanks to this particular draft, but MOAR PICKS isn't a panacea.
TDOTSEAHAWK":3rsc9g5g said:Natethegreat":3rsc9g5g said:I think the Pats draft philosophy isn't anywhere near what the Seahawks is, nor is Petes philosophy of playing the young guys. In fact they seem to go pick from the old free agent scrap heap more than most. Completely different philosophies.MontanaHawk05":3rsc9g5g said:TDOTSEAHAWK":3rsc9g5g said:This is what good teams do. develop great players. Keep the keystones, allow others to leave - rack up picks, repeat the process. Pats have been doing it for 15 years.
And they haven't won a Super Bowl in 10.
I'm all for smart free agency, but I'd be worried if we hadn't retained Michael Bennett. Tate would be a lot easier to replace thanks to this particular draft, but MOAR PICKS isn't a panacea.
I don't think you have followed the Pats recently. Most of their starting defense is younger than 27. Chandler Jones, Jamie Collins, Dont'a Hightower, Duron Harmon, Alfonzo Denard, Chris Jones are all young. Talib was 28. I think Ninkovich was their only defensive starter over 30. Don't mistake them for the Bears, Steelers or Ravens.
On offense, every starter has 5 or less years of experience except Brady, Mankins and Connolly.
Belicheck has always been a wizard with young talent because he has his system and coaches the players very very well within it.
And most if not all of those guys were high draft picks not comp picks. The thread is about comp picks and Montana stated that it hadn't helped the Pats my point was that the Pats don't value the late round picks like Pete and JS do and he certainly doesn't have Petes philosophy of playing the young guys (unless they are high round picks for Bill).TDOTSEAHAWK":1d812pnq said:Natethegreat":1d812pnq said:I think the Pats draft philosophy isn't anywhere near what the Seahawks is, nor is Petes philosophy of playing the young guys. In fact they seem to go pick from the old free agent scrap heap more than most. Completely different philosophies.MontanaHawk05":1d812pnq said:TDOTSEAHAWK":1d812pnq said:This is what good teams do. develop great players. Keep the keystones, allow others to leave - rack up picks, repeat the process. Pats have been doing it for 15 years.
And they haven't won a Super Bowl in 10.
I'm all for smart free agency, but I'd be worried if we hadn't retained Michael Bennett. Tate would be a lot easier to replace thanks to this particular draft, but MOAR PICKS isn't a panacea.
I don't think you have followed the Pats recently. Most of their starting defense is younger than 27. Chandler Jones, Jamie Collins, Dont'a Hightower, Duron Harmon, Alfonzo Denard, Chris Jones are all young. Talib was 28. I think Ninkovich was their only defensive starter over 30. Don't mistake them for the Bears, Steelers or Ravens.
On offense, every starter has 5 or less years of experience except Brady, Mankins and Connolly.
Belicheck has always been a wizard with young talent because he has his system and coaches the players very very well within it.
Yes, comp picks for this year's FA's will be in the 2015 draft. The actual comp picks will be determined and assigned after the 2014 season (typically in March/April), based on a variety of criteria. The Hawks will not have any comp picks in the 2014 draft.jhern87":2c78kht5 said:Can someone list what picks have been assigned to which players? It will be interesting to monitor this. And they're for next years draft?
Natethegreat":pzlkernf said:Natethegreat":pzlkernf said:I think the Pats draft philosophy isn't anywhere near what the Seahawks is, nor is Petes philosophy of playing the young guys. In fact they seem to go pick from the old free agent scrap heap more than most. Completely different philosophies.
And most if not all of those guys were high draft picks not comp picks. The thread is about comp picks and Montana stated that it hadn't helped the Pats my point was that the Pats don't value the late round picks like Pete and JS do and he certainly doesn't have Petes philosophy of playing the young guys (unless they are high round picks for Bill).
Natethegreat":35x69jg7 said:They have lately been getting younger but for a good while they were definitely picking up old free agents. They are hardly young by NFL standards either but my original point was that the Pats and Seahawks philosophies are not the same.
Pete and Bill cold not be farther apart in how they run there teams. Bill is a guy who values veterans (and yes at some point you have to get younger guys) but for the most part they are wide apart in their philosophies.
Also I just read an article that the Pats only scout 75 players in a draft. Thats 75 total! Whereas the Seahawks make the late round picks a very high priority. THIS IS MY POINT! I am simply stating that those lower round comp picks are viewed and used completely different than the Pats. They are a terrible comparison. Pete is unlike most head coaches in his willingness to go with the low round or undrafted guy and Bill is not that kind of coach AT ALL. Does he play younger guys? Of course(it would be nearly impossible not to) but most are high round draft picks.
MontanaHawk05":1kfbbmf1 said:TDOTSEAHAWK":1kfbbmf1 said:This is what good teams do. develop great players. Keep the keystones, allow others to leave - rack up picks, repeat the process. Pats have been doing it for 15 years.
And they haven't won a Super Bowl in 10.
I'm all for smart free agency, but I'd be worried if we hadn't retained Michael Bennett. Tate would be a lot easier to replace thanks to this particular draft, but MOAR PICKS isn't a panacea.