This could be the eagles ugliest game of the season.

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HawkWow":325fu0qs said:
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The crucial penalties will happen if the zebras get to feeling sorry for the Eagles. Not that I'm predicting anything!
That is a bet I would like to take to Vegas. I wish Vegas would have a line like Seahawk penalties vs opponents.

If they did and people started making money by betting the Hawks would get a percentage more, I would not be surprised if the number of Hawk penalties would decrease and the opponents would increase.

Just talk to the manager of any smaller sportsbook. If you'll agree to the juice, he'll agree to the bet.

A sensible O/U would be 8.5 @ -110 but they'd want to ding you for -120 ( I'd run, not walk, away from that).

One thing I don't like about this game is the 10 day rest. Do we ever play well after byes or extended periods of rest?
Last season after an extra week of rest: Seahawks 34, New Orleans 7. Seahawks 23, New Orleans 15. Seahawks 43, Denver 8.
 

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I obviously wasn't referring to the play offs. This time we're not at home and this game won't be in prime time. Events where we always do very well.

So when was the last non home game (SB aside) that we played well after a bye or extended rest? It's been a while...and thus my point.
 

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knownone":3qs4s9ip said:
As someone who follows both teams religiously. Seattle should win fairly convincingly. I love my Eagles, but Chip Kelly is vastly overrated. The offense looks great on paper because we consistently dominate bad defense, and given the nature of Kelly's high tempo offense we tend to pad stats in those games
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So why should Seattle win convincingly? Look at how the Eagles do against top 10 defenses they average almost 10 points less per game. Seattle has the defense to stop the Eagles and the offense to dominate time of possession. I have a hard time seeing this being any closer than 10 points.

See, this is just the thing that scares me the most. Butt-fumbler? He'll have a near-perfect game against the Seahawks. Lead the league in turnovers? Seahawks cause zero turnovers. They suck against top-ten defenses? Seahawks defense can't stop Marshall with a backup quarterback on 4th and 45.

Yeah, we can easily win this one, but these are they types of match-ups I'm worried about. Especially on the road. Later game or not.
 

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Secondly, the Eagles have one of the best pass rushes in the game, and we have a leaky sieve of an offensive line.

Really? Because that O-line pretty much shut down San Francisco's Pro Bowl pass rush. In their house. They've had bad games this year, but things are improving. I'm tempted to place most of the pass rush problems on the fourth-string center we've been using until last week.

Certainly they were better last Thursday, but I wouldn't say we "shut down" their pass rush. We gave up 4 sacks and Russell had to pull off some of his most impressive Houdini acts to keep it from being 6 or 7. Season long we've had problems protecting the quarterback, even when everyone is healthy. Our best pass blocker is a tight end, and he's gone for the year. Plus Philly's pass rush, at least in terms of sacks, is much better than the Niners. Philly's D is ranked 2nd in the league in sacks, the Niners check in at #16. We're in the top 10 in surrendering sacks even though we're 30th in passing attempts.

So tell me again why I shouldn't be concerned about protecting the quarterback?
 

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Please beat the Eagles. And do it rather physically.

It would really suck to see some crappy team from the NFC South back into the playoffs at 6-10, while my 11-5 Cowboys have to watch from home. It would be awesome if you beat the Iggles for us. Thanks!
 

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The DVOA of the Eagles defense has them ranked 8th in the league, right behind Seattle at 7th. I don't buy into ESPN stats. That defense isn't half bad.

This game is going to be decide up front for both teams. The Eagles pass rush has been on fire outside of the Green Bay game in which nothing was clicking anywhere. Outside of JJ Watt, who is not even human anyways, I don't know if there is a better defensive lineman playing football right now than Fletcher Cox.

The Eagles secondary is less than average so if the Seattle OL can give Russ time to move around a bit, then it could be a long day for the Eagles. However, if the pass rush can continue playing like they have been then it'll be a really good game.

The Eagles lack a lot of personnel on the defensive side of the ball so to compensate they use a lot of funky stunts and pre snap movements which have been working. You all saw what they did to the Cowboys supposed "best OL in football" and the leagues leading rusher on Thursday. You beat the Eagles up front, you could be in line for a huge win.
 

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formido":1ytzctwq said:
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As someone who follows both teams religiously. Seattle should win fairly convincingly. I love my Eagles, but Chip Kelly is vastly overrated. The offense looks great on paper because we consistently dominate bad defense, and given the nature of Kelly's high tempo offense we tend to pad stats in those games
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So why should Seattle win convincingly? Look at how the Eagles do against top 10 defenses they average almost 10 points less per game. Seattle has the defense to stop the Eagles and the offense to dominate time of possession. I have a hard time seeing this being any closer than 10 points.
Well, since you've greeted this with an open mind(how dare you), let me play devil's advocate.

The thing I worry about with Philly is that the Hawks are not familiar with defending Chip's scheme. By the time you make adjustments, it could be too late, which brings me to our offense.

They've had back to back games where they couldn't score above 19pts and currently can't find their ass with both hands in the RZ. I've noticed that, even against top 10 Ds, Philly has managed to score more than 19pts, so that's a problem. We will need more production from our O to win this one.

Misleading. Seattle speeds up the game, making their final point totals look worse. Part of this includes being less aggressive about scoring with a lead than most teams. Seattle could have certainly scored more points in both of its last two games if they cared to.

Red zone issues are just not as important as some people seem to think. It'd be nice to convert more in the red zone, sure. But scoring is what ultimately matters, and Seattle is good at scoring, especially when adjusted for game pace.

Good stuff here.
 

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HawKnPeppa":1i4lco91 said:
knownone":1i4lco91 said:
As someone who follows both teams religiously. Seattle should win fairly convincingly. I love my Eagles, but Chip Kelly is vastly overrated. The offense looks great on paper because we consistently dominate bad defense, and given the nature of Kelly's high tempo offense we tend to pad stats in those games
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So why should Seattle win convincingly? Look at how the Eagles do against top 10 defenses they average almost 10 points less per game. Seattle has the defense to stop the Eagles and the offense to dominate time of possession. I have a hard time seeing this being any closer than 10 points.
Well, since you've greeted this with an open mind(how dare you), let me play devil's advocate.

The thing I worry about with Philly is that the Hawks are not familiar with defending Chip's scheme. By the time you make adjustments, it could be too late, which brings me to our offense.

They've had back to back games where they couldn't score above 19pts and currently can't find their ass with both hands in the RZ. I've noticed that, even against top 10 Ds, Philly has managed to score more than 19pts, so that's a problem. We will need more production from our O to win this one.

Hrmm. Negative on this one.

The Eagles are 0-3 when they score less than 27 points. Of course, they're 9-0 when they score over 27.

They've only played one game this year where the opponent didn't turn the ball over. They lost 53-20. The Hawks have 6 games this year where they haven't turned the ball over.

They've played top 10 defenses twice, and lost both times. According to the above stat, they would mean they scored less than 27 points.

I honestly don't see the Eagles scoring 27 on us next week, especially after 13 days of rest to get our defense even healthier. It also gives LJP time to get into better game shape and get reintegrated into our system. Our poorest run games were with a 4th string Center. LJP makes a difference.

If we playe "Pete" ball: don't turn the ball over, control TOP, establish a physical run game, and don't give up explosive plays, we'll win this game handily. The Eagles give up roughly 108 yards a game rushing (not too shabby) but they're one of the worst in the league against the pass (which makes balance for our offense easier). The Eagles are 2nd in the league in sacks, and we're near the bottom for sacks allowed, but Wilson negates a lot of that. He's used to running for his life, then he makes a few guys miss and burns teams deep, which the Eagles are susceptible to.

I think our offense will be ugly. We'll take some sacks, and it will be hard to sustain a lot of drives, but Russ will have a great improvisation game and it will hurt the Eagles. We'll win TOP, explosive plays, and the turnover battle, as the Eagles give the ball up with regularity. That should equal a win.
 

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Lords of Scythia":3fgeuolx said:
The crucial penalties will happen if the zebras get to feeling sorry for the Eagles. Not that I'm predicting anything!

the ref crew for this game has called one of the fewest amount of penalties this year.
 

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If there was any a time for the butt fumbler to show his true colors, its going to be next sunday.

1)The eagles lead the league in Giveways.
The eagles lead the league in Giveaways with a whopping 28. that is an average of 2.13 per game. If my memory serves me well they had 0 turnovers in their game against the cowboys. They are overdue for some turnovers against the hawks.
We all know our defense has finally returned. While we don't lead the league in takeaways, (for obvious reasons) We have had more takeaways in these past two games than any team in the NFL. The LOB is going to be the Butt Fumblers worst nightmare.

2) This is the Easiest defense we have yet to play/will play on the rest of our schedule.
The eagles rank 30/32 on defense. While this stat is not completely indicative of the whole story, (after watching their front seven tear the cowboys apart), I'm still not completely sold on them. They are 19th against the run, and 30th against the pass.

The only thing stopping me from saying that this game has blowout potential written all over it is the fact that it is a chip Kelly led team with a ten day stretch, coupled with our fondness for racking up crucial penalties on the road. This has the potential to become a blowout win for the hawks. if it is played right Unfortunately I believe we only win 1 game on the road on this stretch, and i believe it is not going to be against the cardinals. I Also believe that the cardinals will get another loss, and I'm on the verge to say that the falcons flat out win this Sunday. After that loss, I believe they won't lose again, once they find themselves in the situation the hawks where 2 weeks ago, with their backs against the wall and their #1 seed is in jeopardy.

I think this could be a blowout also - the other way....any given Sunday. Should be fun.
 

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eaglesrule":dwb0qzjr said:
blazen2392":dwb0qzjr said:
If there was any a time for the butt fumbler to show his true colors, its going to be next sunday.

1)The eagles lead the league in Giveways.
The eagles lead the league in Giveaways with a whopping 28. that is an average of 2.13 per game. If my memory serves me well they had 0 turnovers in their game against the cowboys. They are overdue for some turnovers against the hawks.
We all know our defense has finally returned. While we don't lead the league in takeaways, (for obvious reasons) We have had more takeaways in these past two games than any team in the NFL. The LOB is going to be the Butt Fumblers worst nightmare.

2) This is the Easiest defense we have yet to play/will play on the rest of our schedule.
The eagles rank 30/32 on defense. While this stat is not completely indicative of the whole story, (after watching their front seven tear the cowboys apart), I'm still not completely sold on them. They are 19th against the run, and 30th against the pass.

The only thing stopping me from saying that this game has blowout potential written all over it is the fact that it is a chip Kelly led team with a ten day stretch, coupled with our fondness for racking up crucial penalties on the road. This has the potential to become a blowout win for the hawks. if it is played right Unfortunately I believe we only win 1 game on the road on this stretch, and i believe it is not going to be against the cardinals. I Also believe that the cardinals will get another loss, and I'm on the verge to say that the falcons flat out win this Sunday. After that loss, I believe they won't lose again, once they find themselves in the situation the hawks where 2 weeks ago, with their backs against the wall and their #1 seed is in jeopardy.

I think this could be a blowout also - the other way....any given Sunday. Should be fun.
If you haven't been paying attention to Seattle's D of late and are putting way too much stock in a win against a craptastic *allas defense I "could" see how you could come to that conclusion.
 

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That was ugly. Sanchez looked like he was back in NYJ. Dazed and confused, completed only 10 passes. Chip Kelly ran out of Kleenex by halftime cuz of all his crying to the refs. All the talk this week about another high flying offense gonna show up our LOB. Hey Philly you can ask Denver how that works out.
 

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knownone":220o16ct said:
As someone who follows both teams religiously. Seattle should win fairly convincingly. I love my Eagles, but Chip Kelly is vastly overrated. The offense looks great on paper because we consistently dominate bad defense, and given the nature of Kelly's high tempo offense we tend to pad stats in those games
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So why should Seattle win convincingly? Look at how the Eagles do against top 10 defenses they average almost 10 points less per game. Seattle has the defense to stop the Eagles and the offense to dominate time of possession. I have a hard time seeing this being any closer than 10 points.
You literally saw into the future with this post, you win.
 
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