Time to sit these guys?

[toffee]

Our defense has tackling, run stopping, LB pass defense issues. These are the guys that need to be looked at, or take a game off:

Tackling: Darryl Taylor, josh Jones, and Shelby Harris stood out,

Run defense:
This one is more strange, guys that had good run defense records are doing poorly, may be having a hard time adjusting to 3-4? Quinton Jefferson, Poona Ford, Cody Barton, Daryl Taylor, even Al Woods. Basically most guys on DL, and LB.

Pass Defense:
Again, it's Daryl Taylor, but also our CBs.

In summary, may be time to sit Taylor a little bit, and try something else, if we have something some else to try.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

The problem is you can't sit Taylor, he's literally the only dangerous pass rusher on the D-line. Mafe isn't experienced or adept enough in the run game to depend on, that's it.

Probably why Taylor's stats have been terrible, teams know he's our only pass rush threat so they're chipping and double teaming him.

His only real help in obvious passing downs had his quad explode in the first half of the Denver game.

 

[Scout]

The coaching staff I am sure is noticing this as well and by the first quarter you might see a shake up of rotations and line up IMO.

 

[seabowl]

Great the best one is Adams as he should be and he’s out for the year.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Sitting these guys isn't gonna improve their tackling. The issue is widespread. They need time, not the bench.

 

[bigskydoc]

We are two games in, with a new scheme, new coordinator, new players, a new mission, and in a era that gives additional advantage to the offense every year.

How quickly we forget just how anemic defenses around the league looked 12 months and 24 months ago. How Russ came out looking so hot in the early season, until defenses got their game together.

It's way too early in the year to talk about switching players, changing schemes, etc, especially in a year where we are focused on player development and rebuilding.

 

[OrangeGravy]

Our defense has tackling, run stopping, LB pass defense issues. These are the guys that need to be looked at, or take a game off:

Tackling: Darryl Taylor, josh Jones, and Shelby Harris stood out,
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Run defense:
This one is more strange, guys that had good run defense records are doing poorly, may be having a hard time adjusting to 3-4? Quinton Jefferson, Poona Ford, Cody Barton, Daryl Taylor, even Al Woods. Basically most guys on DL, and LB.
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Pass Defense:
Again, it's Daryl Taylor, but also our CBs.
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In summary, may be time to sit Taylor a little bit, and try something else, if we have something some else to try.

Who you gonna sit them in favor of?

 

[uncle fester]

Who you gonna sit them in favor of?

Presumably that whole other secret defense that’s stashed away down the back of the couch?

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Sitting these guys isn't gonna improve their tackling. The issue is widespread. They need time, not the bench.

Not sitting, but having a deeper rotation of D-linemen most definitely helps.

The SB D-lines had guys like Bennett and Avril only playing in barely 50% of snaps. Remember, Taylor's coming off a major injury a couple years ago, he shouldn't be playing 80+% of snaps, it's only going to wear him down physically and mentally if he's not doing well.

It's not just QB's that can press.

Schneider's done a great job of finding interior lineman for a deeper rotation, but he's done a downright terrible job of finding ends and edge rushers. This isn't going to get better, in fact as the season goes along it'll probably get worse.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Not sitting, but having a deeper rotation of D-linemen most definitely helps.

The SB D-lines had guys like Bennett and Avril only playing in barely 50% of snaps. Remember, Taylor's coming off a major injury a couple years ago, he shouldn't be playing 80+% of snaps, it's only going to wear him down physically and mentally if he's not doing well.

It's not just QB's that can press.

Schneider's done a great job of finding interior lineman for a deeper rotation, but he's done a downright terrible job of finding ends and edge rushers. This isn't going to get better, in fact as the season goes along it'll probably get worse.

Yeah, that's true. I took the OP as more advocating benching than rest, but I totally agree. Rotation is key. Darrell Taylor has looked especially gassed with his snap count.

 

[Polk738]

I think the biggest thing is it's a new scheme, I'm pretty sure the only one in the defense that has 3-4 experience is Uchenna Nwosu and he's been stellar-these guys need snaps together, it's gonna get pretty bad before it gets better

 

[CouchLogic]

Sign those legit FA 34 DEs right now!

What is taking so long?

Shoot, JS should have just known who is a lock, drafted all the good ones and it would be a non-issue.

Easy as pie.

 

[Torc]

 

[AgentDib]

As always take a skeptical view on PFF grades. When you have a black box that is clearly wrong some of the time, you shouldn't start believing it just because the outputs seem reasonable.

Taylor did have a rough game against the 49ers to the point that he had to be pulled on early downs. Increased rotation is the way to go there in the near-term, and Darryl Johnson should get a lot of reps versus Atlanta. If we fall several games behind in the division then the argument will be stronger for playing Taylor and letting him sink or swim on the job.