Was Throwing On 2nd Down The Right Call?

[chris98251]

If they were worried about time and lined up you simply throw a spike in the ground to preserve the clock, so many options rather then what we did.

 

[Hasselbeck]

There is a mini-conspiracy theory that the Hawks preferred Wilson to win the MVP rather than Lynch, so they fed the ball to Wilson for a TD pass. The concern is Lynch might be too difficult to negotiate with if he won the MVP. They plan to pay Wilson big $$$ anyway, and the MVP would help justify that.

I don't think this is true at all, given Bevell's past.

He's done this many many many other times.. they just came in games with far less implications than the Super Bowl.

 

[Hawkscanner]

Seriously?!? Marshawn Lynch is one of the best YAC runners in the history of the NFL. I don't care if the Pats have their goal line personnel in there. With 1 yard until paydirt and a Super Bowl victory on the line, are you telling me that Beast Mode is going to be denied the end zone? Hardly. Throwing in that situation was absolutely positively the wrong call, as just too many bad things can happen (and they did).

Personally, this pretty much sums up my feelings regarding this game ...

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[Hawk-Lock]

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

You hand off to Money Lynch on 2nd and goal. If that somehow doesn't make it, you hand off to him again. IF IF IF somehow that doesn't make it you hand it off again on 4th down. IF we can't punch it in with Lynch after three tries at the goal line, then we don't deserve to win and we 12's can feel a hell of a lot better about the loss then we do now thanks to a TERRIBLE call, period and goodnight.

(drops mic)

Actually you are wrong wrong wrong.

If you hand it off to him on second down with about 25 seconds left, then you have to burn a timeout. No chance they run on third down. 4th down...anything goes. But you're crazy if you think we would have ran the ball on third down with no timeouts with little to no time remaining. Not even getting to 4th down would be dumber than Bevel's pass play.

 

[Hawk-Lock]

There is a mini-conspiracy theory that the Hawks preferred Wilson to win the MVP rather than Lynch, so they fed the ball to Wilson for a TD pass. The concern is Lynch might be too difficult to negotiate with if he won the MVP. They plan to pay Wilson big $$$ anyway, and the MVP would help justify that.

BS. Not buying it.

 

[scutterhawk]

No.

Not just "no", but Hell No.
This Podunk call was a thumb in the eye to Marshawn Lynch, who would have in all likelihood, have punched the damned ball in for THE WIN, and in fact that's exactly what I was expecting to see happen, and not only that, it's what Billicheat and Brady were expecting to happen also.
We have ALL seen what happens when you PASS from the one Yard line with plenty of time for another play OR TWO.

 

[CalboHawk]

Throwing on 2nd down was the right call, however, throwing a slant was the wrong decision. Slants are Wilson's worse pass. In a compressed field tempo and placement are critical and Wilson was a bit late on getting the ball out. Instead of accepting he was already late It looks like he tried to compensate with placement, however, since it was already late the Patriot CB had time to anticipate the throw and jump the route. If Wilson had thrown the ball away the clock would have stopped and PC could get the super-jumbo personnel group out on the field and still have a timeout.

What is frustrating is that Bevell needs to be more aware of his own player's tendencies (in this case, Wilson has always had problems with this kind of pass) and I don't remember Lockette ever being used successfully as a possession receiver who can fight for the ball in traffic. It seems like not having Kevin Norwood active or not giving Bryan Walters / Chris Matthews a chance to play that role was a wasted opportunity. Maybe it was never included in their respective packages in practice but this really seems like a head-scratcher.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

You hand off to Money Lynch on 2nd and goal. If that somehow doesn't make it, you hand off to him again. IF IF IF somehow that doesn't make it you hand it off again on 4th down. IF we can't punch it in with Lynch after three tries at the goal line, then we don't deserve to win and we 12's can feel a hell of a lot better about the loss then we do now thanks to a TERRIBLE call, period and goodnight.

(drops mic)

Actually you are wrong wrong wrong.

If you hand it off to him on second down with about 25 seconds left, then you have to burn a timeout. No chance they run on third down. 4th down...anything goes. But you're crazy if you think we would have ran the ball on third down with no timeouts with little to no time remaining. Not even getting to 4th down would be dumber than Bevel's pass play.

You're assuming the Patriots are able to stop Lynch from a yard out.. when they were getting pounded by him up until that point.

 

[Hawk-Lock]

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

You hand off to Money Lynch on 2nd and goal. If that somehow doesn't make it, you hand off to him again. IF IF IF somehow that doesn't make it you hand it off again on 4th down. IF we can't punch it in with Lynch after three tries at the goal line, then we don't deserve to win and we 12's can feel a hell of a lot better about the loss then we do now thanks to a TERRIBLE call, period and goodnight.

(drops mic)

Actually you are wrong wrong wrong.

If you hand it off to him on second down with about 25 seconds left, then you have to burn a timeout. No chance they run on third down. 4th down...anything goes. But you're crazy if you think we would have ran the ball on third down with no timeouts with little to no time remaining. Not even getting to 4th down would be dumber than Bevel's pass play.

You're assuming the Patriots are able to stop Lynch from a yard out.. when they were getting pounded by him up until that point.

Very true. As good as Lynch is, not sure how our run game in a 3-wideout set would fair against a goal-line defense. Most likely, you are probably right, he gets in.

 

[scutterhawk]

It's a totally legit quesiton. And I still think throwing on second down is the right call......assuming we dind't have time to get our heavy package in.

Like i mentioned in one of my replies. If we threw on second, we were going to run on 3rd, and vice-versa. Might as well pass against a goalline defense rather than running against a goalline defense without your heavy package.

Only you and Bevel think like that, and even after giving the game away, are still defending the dumb call...go figure SMH

 

[Hawk-Lock]

Throwing on 2nd down was the right call, however, throwing a slant was the wrong decision. Slants are Wilson's worse pass. In a compressed field tempo and placement are critical and Wilson was a bit late on getting the ball out. Instead of accepting he was already late It looks like he tried to compensate with placement, however, since it was already late the Patriot CB had time to anticipate the throw and jump the route. If Wilson had thrown the ball away the clock would have stopped and PC could get the super-jumbo personnel group out on the field and still have a timeout.

What is frustrating is that Bevell needs to be more aware of his own player's tendencies (in this case, Wilson has always had problems with this kind of pass) and I don't remember Lockette ever being used successfully as a possession receiver who can fight for the ball in traffic. It seems like not having Kevin Norwood active or not giving Bryan Walters / Chris Matthews a chance to play that role was a wasted opportunity. Maybe it was never included in their respective packages in practice but this really seems like a head-scratcher.

I agree with this the most. Passing was the right call. But throwing a slant from the one yard line is the dumbest thing ever. So many things can happen. Any tipped ball has a chance to get picked, because you have 11 defenders within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.