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Siouxhawk":ucy4fyos said:Oh, a gay joke. How original
Settle down. Im on your side here when it comes to Bevell. But its ok for riffing too. Sports = entertainment.
Siouxhawk":ucy4fyos said:Oh, a gay joke. How original
nanomoz":31uxlh22 said:MontanaHawk05":31uxlh22 said:652cHAWK":31uxlh22 said:Some of the blame, er reason why Bevell is still here, etc....has been put on RW and various members of the offense for bad play execution and poor decision making. Essentially, that is what PC said was the case for the RW int. play in XLIX. We didn't execute the play well, and the other team made the play.
And the Patriots said that they made the play because they recognized it from film as one of the very few goalline concepts the Seahawks had been running all year. The Super Bowl is not the time to stay simple on offense, with Lynch, without any big receiving targets, against one of the league's defensive minds.
Bevell might simply be around because of
a) the desire for consistency, an important consideration at all times;
b) the right replacement hasn't come along;
c) because our personnel are still so underdeveloped that Pete just doesn't see Bevell as the main problem;
d) still scarred over the Jeremy Bates thing (fought with the other coaches, didn't use Lynch);
e) some of all the above.
I want to call attention to this. Brilliant post. The dialog surrounding anything on this board tends to a binary opposition: Bevell sucks vs. He's not the problem at all.
The truth could be somewhere in the middle, like Montana notes. It could be that Pete does have issues with Bevell, but there's a lot more to this situation than most people want to acknowledge.
12thbrah":29ope7m6 said:I heard Bevell gives a mean handjob.
Thunderhawk":2buk31m1 said:It's called accountability. On Wall Street if a CEO's employees underperform and the company misses its earnings estimates the CEO is held responsible. If this happens for multiple quarters activists investors, like Carl Icahn, will swoop in and make sure the CEO is bounced. Bevell is the CEO of our offense and he hasn't been good enough. Why should deeply invested fans be disparaged as emotional reactionaries when they call for a coaches dismissal when Harvard MBAs are lauded as reasonable for pursuing the same course in ousting CEOs?
12thbrah":7b9v7po2 said:I heard Bevell gives a mean handjob.
Carroll's problem with assistant coaches, in fact, is bringing in new ones to replace the ones who are being cherry-picked out of his systems to be head coaches, because Carroll's teams are always so damn good.SeahawksFanForever":203ozj9j said:I might be wrong but I don't remember the last time Carroll fired a coach (including USC days) other than OC Jeremy Bates.
I think many, if not most, are fine with Bevell. It doesn't seem like that based on post quantity or post topics but there are a couple of reasons for that.LymonHawk":3bc4ts4j said:Nice to see so many here defending Bevell and not giving in to the mob mentality. Bravo!
theENGLISHseahawk":1s4m5dox said:Because unlike a lot of our fans they don't single out a scapegoat who can be blamed every time anything goes wrong on offense.
Player doesn't execute? Bevell.
Player doesn't get enough catches? Bevell.
Lynch doesn't get a hole in the run game? Bevell.
Forget the HC, QB, WR, OL, TE, assistant HC. It's all Bevell all the time.
The obsession continues.
Maybe, just maybe, Carroll knows what he's doing?
Attyla the Hawk":150vwqse said:I don't see an issue with Bevell.
Spent the last two weeks having to defend him this past week. The amount of blame attributed to him for the defense giving up 34 and 27 points in back to back weeks is insane.
TwistedHusky":iuf66owp said:At some point, you are responsible for your product.
Bevell's job is to make the offense effective and to score TDs.
The benchmark by which offenses are judged is the ability to score. The rest is besides the point.
Bevell also happens to coordinate an offense that is incredibly effective at running the ball. Now is that Lynch or Cable, or is it him? That is a matter of judgement and think thins some of the fires around him. The problem is that this year, they are not effective at running the ball, not effective at scoring and not effective at passing.
So by that measure, Bevell is lacking.
austinslater25":1pdggtfc said:Did Bevell get any interviews last off season? For the supporters can you find any evidence of people defending his decisions?
austinslater25":1ucaybm2 said:Did Bevell get any interviews last off season? For the supporters can you find any evidence of people defending his decisions? I think some of the blame on Bevell is a little over the top but I still don't see anyone around the league saying he is a quality OC. If we are all wrong and just don't get it I feel like we would see people trying to convince us of that around the league.....yet we don't.
I probably said it above but I think his confidence is shot and he's in a slump. I hope a few easy games will get him back on track. He's over thinking things at the moment imo.
Sports Hernia":1hdt4dyn said:I think the only reason DB is still here is loyalty. Pete's biggest strength (loyalty) is also his biggest weakness.
Interesting.....So, you're saying that Bevell isn't responsible for ANY share of the mistakes, and that all the woes are on Poor Execution, HC, QB, WR, OL, TE, assistant HC?theENGLISHseahawk":36h03ubr said:Because unlike a lot of our fans they don't single out a scapegoat who can be blamed every time anything goes wrong on offense.
Player doesn't execute? Bevell.
Player doesn't get enough catches? Bevell.
Lynch doesn't get a hole in the run game? Bevell.
Forget the HC, QB, WR, OL, TE, assistant HC. It's all Bevell all the time.
The obsession continues.
Maybe, just maybe, Carroll knows what he's doing?