Your best realistic first round

[Hawkinaz]

3 int's last year, best in college, vs 21 int's for Howell. Not a close comparison.

One guy was in college in a short passing game the other in the NFL playing in a pass every down, you are our only hope for winning offense. Try comparing Howell to an established NFL QB in their 1st season of starting

Peyton Manning in his rookie season threw for 3739 yards, 26 TDs/28 ints

Drew Brees in his first season starting passed for 3284 yards 17 TDs/16 ints

Howell will be in a much better place to succeed in Seattle than Washington

 

[Bear-Hawk]

3 int's last year, best in college, vs 21 int's for Howell. Not a close comparison.

TD/INT ratio is my #1 stat QBs. Nix was 45/3. Nobody else close to that differential.

 

[GemCity]

Unless we grab Jordan Travis in a late round, I’d be shocked to see us draft a QB…

I’m good with Verse at 16.

 

[Bear-Hawk]

Unless we grab Jordan Travis in a late round, I’d be shocked to see us draft a QB…

I’m good with Verse at 16.

That’s probably true. Geno will be gone next year. So I guess most people here are on the Howell train.

 

[chris98251]

TD/INT ratio is my #1 stat QBs. Nix was 45/3. Nobody else close to that differential.

So how many NFL defenses did Nix face putting up those numbers?

"0"

 

[NoGain]

A top OL or DL or maybe Penix. That's about it for me at #16. If not, trade down.

 

[12forlife]

3 int's last year, best in college, vs 21 int's for Howell. Not a close comparison.

Neither is comparing numbers from the pac 12 & the NFL.

 

[Bear-Hawk]

He did better

So how many NFL defenses did Nix face putting up those numbers?

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So how many NFL defenses did Nix face putting up those numbers?

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I would love to have all these guys play one year in NFL before I have to choose. Can't do it. We have to go with what they do in college compared to each oher.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Nothing more funny than hearing "less than a zero percent chance"

As if the draft is some etched in stone science that is very predictable

 

[Bear-Hawk]

Nothing more funny than hearing "less than a zero percent chance"

As if the draft is some etched in stone science that is very predictable

The success for QBs drafted in first round is 50% — a coin flip.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I'm referring to a person I have on ignore telling everyone there is less than a zero chance the Hawks take a QB in round 1. And that we need to "get over it!"
I found it hilarious.

 

[CPHawk]

And how many NT do we already have on the roster ?

Real legit NT? Zero

 

[WarHawks]

Neither is comparing numbers from the pac 12 & the NFL.

24/9 for Howell in 2021 at NC, vs 45/3 for Nix at OR. Apples vs Apples. Again, not a close comparison. I'm not a Nix homer, I'm just pointing out that his stats are much better than Howell. The numbers don't lie. I don't have anything against Howell either, and I'm willing to give him a chance. But let's not pretend the odds are great that he will be much more than average to good at best. In a race between a Pinto and a Porsche, which do you think is most likely to win? We keep trying to make diamonds out of coal, and so far all we have to show for it is lumps of coal. That's why I've advocated paying for diamonds. Like most things in life, you usually get what you pay for.

 

[WarHawks]

The success for QBs drafted in first round is 50% — a coin flip.

Yep. But 50% is much better than the less than 10% chance for qb's picked in later rounds.

 

[CactusJack]

Mitchell, Latu & Murphy are three of the best defensive players in this draft. Of the three, Latu & Murphy are the most likely to still be on the board at 16. Grab one of them.

Maybe you're not comfortable with Latu's medical. But passing on both would be a mistake.

If there's real doubt about Abe's health & long-term future, then taking a Tackle might make the most sense for this team. Fautanu won't be available. But a taking a guy like Mims with high upside would.

 

[KinesProf]

I might be on an island here, but I am enamored with Dejean and the impact that he can be with excellent coaching.

I think there's some Eric Berry and Jalen Ramsey in his game.

 

[CactusJack]

I might be on an island here, but I am enamored with Dejean and the impact that he can be with excellent coaching.

I think there's some Eric Berry and Jalen Ramsey in his game.

He's a Safety/Nickle. He doesn't have the fluidity to be an outside corner.

Good player though.

 

[Chukarhawk]

Mitchell, Latu & Murphy are three of the best defensive players in this draft. Of the three, Latu & Murphy are the most likely to still be on the board at 16. Grab one of them.

Maybe you're not comfortable with Latu's medical. But passing on both would be a mistake.

If there's real doubt about Abe's health & long-term future, then taking a Tackle might make the most sense for this team. Fautanu won't be available. But a taking a guy like Mims with high upside would.

Fautanu will be there at 16 I bet. you have Alt, Fashanu, Latham and Fuaga ranked ahead of him. if the early draft is QB heavy you will have a nice pic of Killer o line and D line talent waiting there at 16.

 

[Bear-Hawk]

Yep. But 50% is much better than the less than 10% chance for qb's picked in later rounds.

Will we be here again in 2025 with most members opposed to drafting a QB in the first round?

 

[CPHawk]

According to Locked on Seahawks, this is our next C/G. They had us taking JPJ at 16 in their mock draft they did today.