JSeahawks":3v3ezv0w said:Honetly, none of those 3 are Heisman Trophy level players to me.
My vote would have gone to Marquise Lee. Of those 3 I would vote for Klein as I feel he has the most influence on his teams success of those 3. But I expect Manziel to win it. And I think the only reason Te'o is in it is because of his great personal story. I think any other year he wouldnt have even been in consideration.
I think Manziel is fun to watch but my take on him is that if you only watch highlights he's by far the greatest player in college football. But if you watch every snap and every drive, he's not a GREAT qb, although he is a very good one. More flash then substance, imo. I also feel like some of his highlights and some of his yards come at the detriment of his team, not necessarily making his team better.
JSeahawks":cah3ck60 said:I think Manziel is fun to watch but my take on him is that if you only watch highlights he's by far the greatest player in college football. But if you watch every snap and every drive, he's not a GREAT qb, although he is a very good one. More flash then substance, imo. I also feel like some of his highlights and some of his yards come at the detriment of his team, not necessarily making his team better.
Technically the Heisman is for best player period, not just on offense. Of course, Woodson is the only guy who played primarily on D who's ever won, and he got it for his kick returns as much as anything else (plus he also played some WR).kearly":3purbql5 said:Manziel in a landslide. Granted this is a big down year for Heisman finalists, but I've never seen a freshman with the control, leadership, and development that Manziel has. If he can't win it as a freshman in a year like this than I wonder how many decades we'll have to wait before a freshman wins it.
I really don't get why Te'o was nominated. Most defensive Heisman nominees are either historically great defensive college players or bring massive contribution on special teams. Te'o does neither. It's silly that he'd win the award for best offensive player when he's not even the best defensive player in the country.
And yet Kiper is already touting him as the possible number one pick. Like he did with Curry. What a joke, I don't even think the guy is the best linebacker, let alone player.kearly":1zbvp6e9 said:Manziel in a landslide. Granted this is a big down year for Heisman finalists, but I've never seen a freshman with the control, leadership, and development that Manziel has. If he can't win it as a freshman in a year like this than I wonder how many decades we'll have to wait before a freshman wins it.
I really don't get why Te'o was nominated. Most defensive Heisman nominees are either historically great defensive college players or bring massive contribution on special teams. Te'o does neither. It's silly that he'd win the award for best offensive player when he's not even the best defensive player in the country.