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AlaskaHAWK

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Just out.

Seahawks:

Defense -- Number 1

Offense -- Number 27

Special Teams -- Number 16


That says it all.
 

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But people were telling us the Hawks' DVOA last year was astronomically high and we set "NFL records" therefore we have nothing to worry about our slow start this year...

Yep, all is well.
 

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As an eye O.D., I can report that the view is determined by which pair of "eye glasses" you look through. It's amazing how one's perspective can change!
 

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That offensive DVOA will climb back up into the top 5-7 range before all is said and done. I realize Miami and the Rams have given up big points to other teams but both of those teams best strength matches up very well with our biggest weakness. Coupled with the fact that we are very beat up including Wilson and its no surprise we have struggled. This board tends to be shortsighted at times(which is understandable I get it) but we really will be alright on offense. Too many weapons in Wilson, Baldwin, Lockett, Graham and yes even Michael who has played better than anyone wants to give him credit for. We will be rolling before you know it. Bank on it.
 

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So when we score 35 this week everything will be fine.
 

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Ha thats surprisingly accurate. Wondering why we aren't last in offense right now. Does any other team only have 1 TD this season?
 

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12thbrah":2krdc17y said:
Ha thats surprisingly accurate. Wondering why we aren't last in offense right now. Does any other team only have 1 TD this season?

The Rams don't have any.
 

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Our offense relies heavily on Wilson's ability to evade and improvise. For 75% of the season, he's been stripped of that magical ability. Nobody should be surprised that our offense is struggling.
 

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HawkFan72":3f0wkelu said:
12thbrah":3f0wkelu said:
Ha thats surprisingly accurate. Wondering why we aren't last in offense right now. Does any other team only have 1 TD this season?

The Rams don't have any.

That is not what he asked :D
 

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JimmyG":224bvwdx said:
Our offense relies heavily on Wilson's ability to evade and improvise. For 75% of the season, he's been stripped of that magical ability. Nobody should be surprised that our offense is struggling.

Don't be silly. It's all Bevell's fault. Or if it's not his fault, it must be Tom Cables fault.

IT CAN'T BE CIRCIMSTANCES THERE HAS TO BE SOMEBODY TO BLAME.

gggggrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

Df1eb34eeddd051cf47e6cb0151d82ec2c88c9331f4ff6cd1a

HULK BLAME! HULK BLAME!
 

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JimmyG":3r0ndsip said:
Our offense relies heavily on Wilson's ability to evade and improvise. For 75% of the season, he's been stripped of that magical ability. Nobody should be surprised that our offense is struggling.

I think that lies within the core of the major problem though-no offensive system should be predicated upon a QB's ability for improvisation. The philosophy should be designed for success on its own, with a QB's scrambling talent only coming into play when necessary.

Our system is almost wholly contingent on Wilson creating opportunities 1/2 the time. A shift in ideological design and adaptation to the personel we do have should be implemented.
 

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West TX Hawk":189lnusq said:
I think that lies within the core of the major problem though-no offensive system should be predicated upon a QB's ability for improvisation. The philosophy should be designed for success on its own, with a QB's scrambling talent only coming into play when necessary.

Our system is almost wholly contingent on Wilson creating opportunities 1/2 the time. A shift in ideological design and adaptation to the personel we do have should be implemented.

The system has been built around Wilson's ability to move because he isn't a typical drop-back QB. If you build an offense designed for a 6'4 QB who is expected to step up in the pocket, then Wilson is never going to be a successful. It is not about "improvising." It is about building a system that makes the most of Wilson's talent, which this staff has done with incredible success over the last four years. Russell Wilson is not a "plug and play" player, and to scheme him as such would've been a huge mistake.

Kind of funny: Seattle was the #1 DVOA OFFENSE for all of last year. This stat is cited often to defend the coaching, but now the same people who ignored those arguments want to use a two-game sample of the same stat to justify blowing everything up. Irony.
 

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DavidSeven":3eev428d said:
West TX Hawk":3eev428d said:
I think that lies within the core of the major problem though-no offensive system should be predicated upon a QB's ability for improvisation. The philosophy should be designed for success on its own, with a QB's scrambling talent only coming into play when necessary.

Our system is almost wholly contingent on Wilson creating opportunities 1/2 the time. A shift in ideological design and adaptation to the personel we do have should be implemented.

The system has been built around Wilson's ability to move because he isn't a typical drop-back QB. If you build an offense designed for a 6'4 QB who is expected to step up in the pocket, then Wilson is never going to be a successful. It is not about "improvising." It is about building a system that makes the most of Wilson's talent, which this staff has done with incredible success over the last four years. Russell Wilson is not a "plug and play" player, and to scheme him as such would've been a huge mistake.

Kind of funny: Seattle was the #1 DVOA OFFENSE for all of last year. This stat is cited often to defend the coaching, but now the same people who ignored those arguments want to use a two-game sample of the same stat to justify blowing everything up. Irony.

That is the point. We have put our hat on his scrambling ability. That is one of the reasons we spend nothing on OL. I fully understand our philosophy of keeping the defense intact and spending our money there. I even understand the logic behind the graham trade.

We have great talent on the offense, but it is not being utilized efficiently, especially without our mobile quarterback being mobile.

What we saw last week with read option still being on the table is that the change in strategy was not made. We lost the basis for our previous scheme, so you would think you would make adjustments to counter this. Those adjustments were not made. That falls on those responsible for the strategy, or lack thereof.

As a coaching staff in this sport, you have to be able to adjust for injuries. If you do adjust and still lose, so be it. We did not see that. That is why you see all of the angst against the offensive coaching.

Giving this great roster the best opportunity to win falls on coaching. If you rewatch the game there are holes in the short midfield zone constantly with the rams bringing 5. This was the case throughout the game. The only way to back off a heavy blitz is to burn them on it. For some reason no adjustment was made to do this, so the rams just kept bringing it.

There will ALWAYS be injuries and personnel that aren't optimal, but if we want to win games, we HAVE to have an offensive strategy to mitigate these weaknesses.
 

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Snap the band. WWBD

WHAT WOULD BELLICHEK DO?

Run Tom Brady's offense with no Tom Brady or scheme differently. Scheme differently implementing d's weakness as we go.

Bevell scheme.

10 gosub Pass run run punt.
20 gosub Read option pass pass punt
30 Scramble scramble wait 22 seconds complete.
35 return
40 GOTO 10
End.


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