Seymour":2i69q7q3 said:
Aros":2i69q7q3 said:
Wonderful...He was the fastest QB on that PLAY. I am talking in general, over the past two seasons, he looks noticeably slower than he used to. I am sticking to what I see on film. Now if you can find metrics PER PLAY over the past two years that contradicts my eyeballs, fine.
I'll say it again. Russell has 4.55 speed straight out of college. Unless you see him outrun THE EXACT same player one year, then get tracked down by THE EXACT same player the next year you'll have no clue!
There are linebackers, safeties and Dlinemen that are faster than Russ, and there always has been! Von Miller for 1 has ALWAYS been faster than Russ (4.49)!
The chips in their pads say he is the fastest QB in the NFL (which I just showed)....not good enough? then I can't help you.
In Aros' original post he said 'specifically that initial burst and quick juking' when talking about Russ losing a step. The straight line top speed stats you posted don't address or refute that. Also, being clocked as the fastest last year doesn't make him the fastest. He was chasing down a defender to prevent a pick 6, maybe Newton was never in the same position, or if he was maybe he didn't go all out cuz you know he's Cam Newton and he was too busy complaining to a ref to run down the field. I just think it's silly to jump all over someone for saying he's lost a step when it's a pretty reasonable opinion, and the stats you bring don't address the whole picture.
Anyways, I actually do agree with you, I don't think Russell has slowed down much. I think it just appears that way because we never run and RO anymore, and defenses scheme him much better and prevent him from getting out of the pocket like he used to. In the past he'd still beat a faster LB because they'd take bad angles on him, that doesn't really happen much anymore.