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Re: Richard Sherman
Sun May 12, 2013 9:49 pm
  • Hope you guys don't think that Avril, Bennett, and Winnie just spontaneously signed up on the cheap when they saw all the spontaneous coverage that NFL network and ESPN was giving their darling team, the Seahawks.

    His mouth made the networks talk about us. A lot of players aren't as well informed as fans and get their opinions off the media. Ergo, he may be setting himself up for a huge contract and a new team, but he helped put us on the FA map.

    For that I am in Shermans debt.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 7:40 am
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Sherman is the best in the league right now, he can say anything he wants. If someone doesn't like it, to damn bad. Do your thing Sherm, they mad



    Not true. Pretty sure the Seahawks have established a line not to cross.. so to say he can say anything he want's is false.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 9:06 am
  • My second favorite Seahawk on the field besides Lynch. But Sherman is a punk. It was cute at first. The stupid clapping and taunting. Calling Tom Brady out, the Trent Williams thing, and of course the Skip Bayless thing, the Revis tape, etc. Just a punk. I'm over it. I'll watch and cheer as loudly as anybody, but when he opens his mouth I am no longer paying attention. It is embarrassing. That punk represents our team, fanbase, and city.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 9:15 am
  • Yep. Richard Sherman - such a punk!

    Listen, you go out on the field and play the way he plays

    and then spend your free time doing charity work

    and you're already an NFL all pro stanford graduate

    please, run your mouth.

    If anyone has earned the right to run it it's a guy like that. Sorry.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 9:23 am
  • Tical21 wrote:My second favorite Seahawk on the field besides Lynch. But Sherman is a punk. It was cute at first. The stupid clapping and taunting. Calling Tom Brady out, the Trent Williams thing, and of course the Skip Bayless thing, the Revis tape, etc. Just a punk. I'm over it. I'll watch and cheer as loudly as anybody, but when he opens his mouth I am no longer paying attention. It is embarrassing. That punk represents our team, fanbase, and city.


    Tom Brady called out the entire team and all the fans in the Clink.

    Trent Williams was an unprovoked attack after a tough game where Sherman was shaking hands and talking to a guy that earlier called him a "cheater".

    Skip Bayless is Skip Bayless. Who hasn't wanted to verbally slap him upside his head.

    The Revis thing was blown out of proportion, IMO, by Revis, himself. He didn't go after Sherman until the interview where Sherm said that Revis can't be considered the best RIGHT NOW, because he's injured and didn't play the whole season. When he comes back healthy, he"s definitely in the discussion. That's a compliment, not a jab or anything like that.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 9:30 am
  • Sherman's got dat Swag-grrrrrrrr
    So you're admitting I'm a celeb...
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 9:48 am
  • Tom Brady called out the entire team and all the fans in the Clink.

    Trent Williams was an unprovoked attack after a tough game where Sherman was shaking hands and talking to a guy that earlier called him a "cheater".

    Skip Bayless is Skip Bayless. Who hasn't wanted to verbally slap him upside his head.

    The Revis thing was blown out of proportion, IMO, by Revis, himself. He didn't go after Sherman until the interview where Sherm said that Revis can't be considered the best RIGHT NOW, because he's injured and didn't play the whole season. When he comes back healthy, he"s definitely in the discussion. That's a compliment, not a jab or anything like that.


    i agree with most of this post. And to be quite frank , i think this whole argument shows the diversity in age on this board... Us older guys, don't like the off field antics, younger guys have no problem with it.. IMO it's a direct reflection in today's society..

    i'm from the old school , let your play do the talking, if challenged off field, then reply, but do it with professionalism and grace..
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 9:50 am
  • I don't understand why people get so defensive over players here, it's not like any of us know the man personally...

    I know Sherman's a good guy off the field, i know what he brings to the team on the field, and i appreciate it whole heartedly.

    i do not however like his off field antics, doesn't mean i don't like him, or appreciate him.. He's a Seahawk, he's my guy..

    Having said that, if he played for another team, i would not be a fan.. i would acknowledge his abilities , but that's as far as it would go..
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 10:01 am
  • Hawknballs wrote:Yep. Richard Sherman - such a punk!

    Listen, you go out on the field and play the way he plays

    and then spend your free time doing charity work

    and you're already an NFL all pro stanford graduate

    please, run your mouth.

    If anyone has earned the right to run it it's a guy like that. Sorry.

    "Earned the right" to run your mouth and act like an arse. Splendid.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 10:12 am
  • Sherm reminds me of The Glove. And look where Gary is now.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 10:21 am
  • Tical21 wrote:
    Hawknballs wrote:Yep. Richard Sherman - such a punk!

    Listen, you go out on the field and play the way he plays

    and then spend your free time doing charity work

    and you're already an NFL all pro stanford graduate

    please, run your mouth.

    If anyone has earned the right to run it it's a guy like that. Sorry.

    "Earned the right" to run your mouth and act like an arse. Splendid.


    well see that's the difference. When you can back it up, the "like an arse" part no longer applies. When your ass can cash the checks your mouth is writing then go for it. It's not like Sherman has targeted the innocent and defenseless with his mouth.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 10:25 am
  • Tical21 wrote: But Sherman is a punk. It was cute at first. The stupid clapping and taunting. Calling Tom Brady out, the Trent Williams thing, and of course the Skip Bayless thing, the Revis tape, etc. Just a punk. I'm over it. I'll watch and cheer as loudly as anybody, but when he opens his mouth I am no longer paying attention. It is embarrassing. That punk represents our team, fanbase, and city.


    I love how you point out the "Trent Williams thing" as evidence of Sherman being a punk. Which part of that incident bothered you? The part where an unprovoked goon in a helmet hit him in the face, or the part where he was being gracious toward other Redskins players immediately before it happened? When you mention this incident as a knock against Sherman then I can only assume you're just looking for a reason to either hate on him or get a rise out of people.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 10:33 am
  • I love how you point out the "Trent Williams thing" as evidence of Sherman being a punk. Which part of that incident bothered you? The part where an unprovoked goon in a helmet hit him in the face, or the part where he was being gracious toward other Redskins players immediately before it happened? When you mention this incident as a knock against Sherman then I can only assume you're just looking for a reason to either hate on him or get a rise out of people.


    i fault Williams in the incident as well.. but let me ask you this.. was it necessary for Sherman to waive goodbye to the Fans, and tell them the hurry up and beat the traffic? Was that a classy act to you, or was it a bit out of line?
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 10:51 am
  • hawker84 wrote:
    I love how you point out the "Trent Williams thing" as evidence of Sherman being a punk. Which part of that incident bothered you? The part where an unprovoked goon in a helmet hit him in the face, or the part where he was being gracious toward other Redskins players immediately before it happened? When you mention this incident as a knock against Sherman then I can only assume you're just looking for a reason to either hate on him or get a rise out of people.


    i fault Williams in the incident as well.. but let me ask you this.. was it necessary for Sherman to waive goodbye to the Fans, and tell them the hurry up and beat the traffic? Was that a classy act to you, or was it a bit out of line?


    Necessary? No. But you're asking the wrong guy. I've never disliked any player, on any team, in any sport for simply being brash. I enjoy that stuff. It adds personality to the game. Love the Deions, GPs and Garnetts of the sports world. I love watching a guy making a dagger play on the road and then putting his finger to his mouth to say "shhhh......" to the crowd. These are young men playing sports. There is no non-offensive gesture in the world that I would consider "out of line."

    Personally, I only dislike players who I consider dirty or whiny. I hated the Spurs for a good while because of Bruce Bowen (dirty) and Tim Duncan (whiny). Those guys are as superficially "professional" as it gets, but I always had way more respect for other players. I respect Brady, but the only time he gets on my nerves is when he whines for a flag any time a defender is within two feet of him. I actually like him more on those occasions when emotions get the best of him, and he does something like emphatically spike the ball to show up the other team.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 11:07 am
  • but the game was over, he wasn't making any more plays, he just felt the need to rub it in the Redskins fans face for a bit... and you say that adds personality to the game.. Do you think you'd ever see GP or Deon do that? i don't.. Maybe Rodman, but we all know what a tool he is..
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 11:34 am
  • I'm gonna guess that Sherm had been hearing it from the 'Skins fans all game and gave some back at the end. Which I have no problem with.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 1:07 pm
  • Yep I'm sure Jordan never heard it from apposing fans, yet you didn't see him waiving goodbye to them after eliminating them from post season play... There's classy ways to talk smack and there's bush league way to do it..
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 1:19 pm
  • hawker84 wrote:
    I love how you point out the "Trent Williams thing" as evidence of Sherman being a punk. Which part of that incident bothered you? The part where an unprovoked goon in a helmet hit him in the face, or the part where he was being gracious toward other Redskins players immediately before it happened? When you mention this incident as a knock against Sherman then I can only assume you're just looking for a reason to either hate on him or get a rise out of people.


    i fault Williams in the incident as well.. but let me ask you this.. was it necessary for Sherman to waive goodbye to the Fans, and tell them the hurry up and beat the traffic? Was that a classy act to you, or was it a bit out of line?


    Hell yes it was necessary. Redskin fans are all no class douchebags.

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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 2:17 pm
  • CANHawk wrote:
    hawker84 wrote:
    I love how you point out the "Trent Williams thing" as evidence of Sherman being a punk. Which part of that incident bothered you? The part where an unprovoked goon in a helmet hit him in the face, or the part where he was being gracious toward other Redskins players immediately before it happened? When you mention this incident as a knock against Sherman then I can only assume you're just looking for a reason to either hate on him or get a rise out of people.


    i fault Williams in the incident as well.. but let me ask you this.. was it necessary for Sherman to waive goodbye to the Fans, and tell them the hurry up and beat the traffic? Was that a classy act to you, or was it a bit out of line?


    Hell yes it was necessary. Redskin fans are all no class douchebags.

    I love Sherm to death. Glove 2.0



    I like Sherm too but that wasn't classy at all. Why stoop to their level? As much as I like Sherm I prefer he be more Browner. Its not him and I get it but he acts like a moron sometimes.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 6:17 pm
  • Don't even start to compare Sherm to the glove. Talking trash during the game to get in a players head is one thing. The intent is to disrupt and get a player or team off of their game. It was a huge part of my game personally as well. But there is a huge difference between trash talking and taunting. Sherman's antics are more TO than they are Payton/Jordan/Sanders. It is bush and, frankly, embarrassing.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 6:21 pm
  • -The Glove- wrote:
    Tical21 wrote:My second favorite Seahawk on the field besides Lynch. But Sherman is a punk. It was cute at first. The stupid clapping and taunting. Calling Tom Brady out, the Trent Williams thing, and of course the Skip Bayless thing, the Revis tape, etc. Just a punk. I'm over it. I'll watch and cheer as loudly as anybody, but when he opens his mouth I am no longer paying attention. It is embarrassing. That punk represents our team, fanbase, and city.


    Tom Brady called out the entire team and all the fans in the Clink.

    Trent Williams was an unprovoked attack after a tough game where Sherman was shaking hands and talking to a guy that earlier called him a "cheater".

    Skip Bayless is Skip Bayless. Who hasn't wanted to verbally slap him upside his head.

    The Revis thing was blown out of proportion, IMO, by Revis, himself. He didn't go after Sherman until the interview where Sherm said that Revis can't be considered the best RIGHT NOW, because he's injured and didn't play the whole season. When he comes back healthy, he"s definitely in the discussion. That's a compliment, not a jab or anything like that.


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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 6:26 pm
  • This conversation is pointless. You are literally arguing over someone's personality and your individual subjective reactions. Some people like Sherman, some don't... just like every person ever.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 7:40 pm
  • Tical21 wrote:Don't even start to compare Sherm to the glove. Talking trash during the game to get in a players head is one thing. The intent is to disrupt and get a player or team off of their game. It was a huge part of my game personally as well. But there is a huge difference between trash talking and taunting. Sherman's antics are more TO than they are Payton/Jordan/Sanders. It is bush and, frankly, embarrassing.

    Hyperbole anyone? We get it, you're over 60 and I'm not. Guess what? Our sensibilities are different so deal with it and understand you're in the minority. It happens you know? People age so I don't fault you that you dislike Sherman and don't understand his mindset or the total mind games he's using against his competition. To full effect I might add.:)
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 8:00 pm
  • Tical21 wrote:Don't even start to compare Sherm to the glove. Talking trash during the game to get in a players head is one thing. The intent is to disrupt and get a player or team off of their game. It was a huge part of my game personally as well. But there is a huge difference between trash talking and taunting. Sherman's antics are more TO than they are Payton/Jordan/Sanders. It is bush and, frankly, embarrassing.

    I didn't start anything. Plenty of people have been comparing the two and I agree with them.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 8:58 pm
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    Tical21 wrote:Don't even start to compare Sherm to the glove. Talking trash during the game to get in a players head is one thing. The intent is to disrupt and get a player or team off of their game. It was a huge part of my game personally as well. But there is a huge difference between trash talking and taunting. Sherman's antics are more TO than they are Payton/Jordan/Sanders. It is bush and, frankly, embarrassing.

    Hyperbole anyone? We get it, you're over 60 and I'm not. Guess what? Our sensibilities are different so deal with it and understand you're in the minority. It happens you know? People age so I don't fault you that you dislike Sherman and don't understand his mindset or the total mind games he's using against his competition. To full effect I might add.:)

    Haha what a sad state when a post about class elicits this response.

    I love the ignorance. "I'm young, therefore I'm not expected to act with or understand the concept of class, leave that for you old folks. Deal with it!" Our future is in good hands.

    FWIW I'm nowhere close to old. I just choose to carry myself with class, and would prefer that those that represent our city do the same.

    I completely understand his mindset. I have competed at high levels, recently I might add. I am a marginal athlete that used my brain and mind games to get me most of the success I was able to have. Yet, I maintained respect for competition and those I competed against.

    The real issue is, is that this is growing. We would like to think he is going to start acting with more maturity, but how many of us believe that he will? At this pace, this is going to become a problem that effects our team. And when these kinds of things effect your team, they tend to come to a head at precisely the wrong time.

    Talk your trash, get your edge. But there is a line between getting an edge, and acting immature and becoming an embarrassment.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 9:23 pm
  • Why do you care so much about how much smack a football player talks? Especially one who backs it up? Seems like a lot of wasted energy. Is he doing something to you personally? Did he steal your lunch money or something? Is he some criminal that's out there getting arrested like a huge portion of the league? NO
    He's having some fun. :roll:
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 10:50 pm
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Why do you care so much about how much smack a football player talks? Especially one who backs it up? Seems like a lot of wasted energy. Is he doing something to you personally? Did he steal your lunch money or something? Is he some criminal that's out there getting arrested like a huge portion of the league? NO
    He's having some fun. :roll:

    It's called being OLD in mind/spirit and not understanding that talking smack while backing it up combined with being a graduate from a school few can even dream to enter and being a real and solid citizen IRL is beyond his comprehension. Long story short he doesn't understand or accept the mindset of people under 30.

    Keep on preaching I am sure any 49er fan will support his tripe along with Ruskell and Mora...since it seems he has issues with actual dirtbags on the field that are real people in for real world life.

    His attitude is exactly like my foster father. It took him to reach 70 or so to start taking sense and actually figure out that it's okay to accept people having fun is ok.

    The irony of this is that he thinks I am young. Ask Les I am far older then he assumes and we all know what assumption means......
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Re: Richard Sherman
Mon May 13, 2013 11:58 pm
  • KCHawkGirl wrote:
    SoulfishHawk wrote:Why do you care so much about how much smack a football player talks? Especially one who backs it up? Seems like a lot of wasted energy. Is he doing something to you personally? Did he steal your lunch money or something? Is he some criminal that's out there getting arrested like a huge portion of the league? NO
    He's having some fun. :roll:

    It's called being OLD in mind/spirit and not understanding that talking smack while backing it up combined with being a graduate from a school few can even dream to enter and being a real and solid citizen IRL is beyond his comprehension. Long story short he doesn't understand or accept the mindset of people under 30.

    Keep on preaching I am sure any 49er fan will support his tripe along with Ruskell and Mora...since it seems he has issues with actual dirtbags on the field that are real people in for real world life.

    His attitude is exactly like my foster father. It took him to reach 70 or so to start taking sense and actually figure out that it's okay to accept people having fun is ok.

    The irony of this is that he thinks I am young. Ask Les I am far older then he assumes and we all know what assumption means......


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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 6:20 am
  • Hyperbole anyone? We get it, you're over 60 and I'm not. Guess what? Our sensibilities are different so deal with it and understand you're in the minority. It happens you know? People age so I don't fault you that you dislike Sherman and don't understand his mindset or the total mind games he's using against his competition. To full effect I might add.



    I'm not 60 either i'm not even close to 50 and i don't understand this logic at all.. I played organized sports my entire youth up through college, not too long ago, and i talked smack from time to time.. i get it , it's part of sports, but i stand by my statement, there's a classy way to do it , and there's a not so classy way not to do it.. There's a time for it, and there's a time to keep your mouth shut... To think that being a certain age prevents you from understanding the difference or someone can't comprehend Shermans mindset is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard... And personally i don't understand why you and others assume just because we don't approve of some of his off field situations doesn't mean we don't like the guy.. We just feel he could tone it down a bit... He's still a seahawk, and we're still fans... So please just stop with this nonsense..
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 6:22 am
  • Tical21 wrote:Don't even start to compare Sherm to the glove. Talking trash during the game to get in a players head is one thing. The intent is to disrupt and get a player or team off of their game. It was a huge part of my game personally as well. But there is a huge difference between trash talking and taunting. Sherman's antics are more TO than they are Payton/Jordan/Sanders. It is bush and, frankly, embarrassing.

    Gary did do some of his talk off the court. IMHO, Gary did not have as big a stage that is there today with dozens of sports shows, the Internet, and social media. The other thing about "trash talking"...the media LOVES it! It gives them something to talk about.

    (On a side note, I found this quote funny from this NBA article:)
    In Seattle, Gary Payton was in perpetual danger of suffering a sprained jaw and larynx, sometimes jabbering even as he drove to the basket. Payton was so verbally inclined that he even trashed his own teammates, referring, for instance, to Sonics center Ervin Johnson as "Tragic Johnson."

    I don't think Sherm would ever trash a teammate.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 6:41 am
  • BlueTalons wrote:
    Tical21 wrote:Don't even start to compare Sherm to the glove. Talking trash during the game to get in a players head is one thing. The intent is to disrupt and get a player or team off of their game. It was a huge part of my game personally as well. But there is a huge difference between trash talking and taunting. Sherman's antics are more TO than they are Payton/Jordan/Sanders. It is bush and, frankly, embarrassing.

    Gary did do some of his talk off the court. IMHO, Gary did not have as big a stage that is there today with dozens of sports shows, the Internet, and social media. The other thing about "trash talking"...the media LOVES it! It gives them something to talk about.

    (On a side note, I found this quote funny from this NBA article:)
    In Seattle, Gary Payton was in perpetual danger of suffering a sprained jaw and larynx, sometimes jabbering even as he drove to the basket. Payton was so verbally inclined that he even trashed his own teammates, referring, for instance, to Sonics center Ervin Johnson as "Tragic Johnson."

    I don't think Sherm would ever trash a teammate.



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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 9:11 am
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    Tical21 wrote:Don't even start to compare Sherm to the glove. Talking trash during the game to get in a players head is one thing. The intent is to disrupt and get a player or team off of their game. It was a huge part of my game personally as well. But there is a huge difference between trash talking and taunting. Sherman's antics are more TO than they are Payton/Jordan/Sanders. It is bush and, frankly, embarrassing.

    Gary did do some of his talk off the court. IMHO, Gary did not have as big a stage that is there today with dozens of sports shows, the Internet, and social media. The other thing about "trash talking"...the media LOVES it! It gives them something to talk about.

    (On a side note, I found this quote funny from this NBA article:)
    In Seattle, Gary Payton was in perpetual danger of suffering a sprained jaw and larynx, sometimes jabbering even as he drove to the basket. Payton was so verbally inclined that he even trashed his own teammates, referring, for instance, to Sonics center Ervin Johnson as "Tragic Johnson."

    I don't think Sherm would ever trash a teammate.



    He trashed Kam.


    Overstatement.

    Sherman has fun with it. That's all it is, and most players understand this and respond in kind. The only people getting offended at this are latte-sipping, pot smoking fans who think the player represent them. They don't.

    Sherman has overstepped the line at times. The Bayless thing wasn't funny or entertaining. Beyond that, he's being Sherman, and his mouth does disrupt opponents more than it distracts teammates, even when it's done off the field. Don't think for one second that the next time we play Atlanta that Roddy White isn't going to be focusing as much on Sherman as he is the game plan. It happens and whe it does, it works to our advantage.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 9:25 am
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    Hyperbole anyone? We get it, you're over 60 and I'm not. Guess what? Our sensibilities are different so deal with it and understand you're in the minority. It happens you know? People age so I don't fault you that you dislike Sherman and don't understand his mindset or the total mind games he's using against his competition. To full effect I might add.



    I'm not 60 either i'm not even close to 50 and i don't understand this logic at all.. I played organized sports my entire youth up through college, not too long ago, and i talked smack from time to time.. i get it , it's part of sports, but i stand by my statement, there's a classy way to do it , and there's a not so classy way not to do it.. There's a time for it, and there's a time to keep your mouth shut... To think that being a certain age prevents you from understanding the difference or someone can't comprehend Shermans mindset is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard... And personally i don't understand why you and others assume just because we don't approve of some of his off field situations doesn't mean we don't like the guy.. We just feel he could tone it down a bit... He's still a seahawk, and we're still fans... So please just stop with this nonsense..

    Wasn't really directed to you.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 9:30 am
  • McGruff wrote:Sherman has fun with it. That's all it is, and most players understand this and respond in kind. The only people getting offended at this are latte-sipping, pot smoking fans who think the player represent them. They don't.


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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 9:59 am
  • All this over what really?

    So far the only egregious 'trash talk' sherman has done IMO was the skip bayless thing and who cares about skip bayless.

    Most of what everyone else calls 'trash talk' from sherman isn't. (Hint: calling yourself optimus prime to calvin johson's megatron isn't trash talk)

    Sherman is all over the place, thanks to his own self-marketing. He's the most prevalent narrator on the top 100 show, makes constant appearances on NFL network, and accomplished this all by putting himself out there while at the same time playing like an all-pro in the league.

    He's not an idiot, he knows exactly what he's doing.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 10:11 am
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    Tical21 wrote:Don't even start to compare Sherm to the glove. Talking trash during the game to get in a players head is one thing. The intent is to disrupt and get a player or team off of their game. It was a huge part of my game personally as well. But there is a huge difference between trash talking and taunting. Sherman's antics are more TO than they are Payton/Jordan/Sanders. It is bush and, frankly, embarrassing.

    Gary did do some of his talk off the court. IMHO, Gary did not have as big a stage that is there today with dozens of sports shows, the Internet, and social media. The other thing about "trash talking"...the media LOVES it! It gives them something to talk about.

    (On a side note, I found this quote funny from this NBA article:)
    In Seattle, Gary Payton was in perpetual danger of suffering a sprained jaw and larynx, sometimes jabbering even as he drove to the basket. Payton was so verbally inclined that he even trashed his own teammates, referring, for instance, to Sonics center Ervin Johnson as "Tragic Johnson."

    I don't think Sherm would ever trash a teammate.

    Lol. That's hilarious! Tragic Johnson? Haha
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 10:15 am
  • Wasn't really directed to you.


    I got that, but you kind of directed it towards anybody over 30 and that includes me.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 10:20 am
  • Hawknballs wrote:All this over what really?

    So far the only egregious 'trash talk' sherman has done IMO was the skip bayless thing and who cares about skip bayless.

    Most of what everyone else calls 'trash talk' from sherman isn't. (Hint: calling yourself optimus prime to calvin johson's megatron isn't trash talk)

    Sherman is all over the place, thanks to his own self-marketing. He's the most prevalent narrator on the top 100 show, makes constant appearances on NFL network, and accomplished this all by putting himself out there while at the same time playing like an all-pro in the league.

    He's not an idiot, he knows exactly what he's doing.


    To add to that, he doesn't really talk bad about other players (except maybe Tom Brady, "You're just a man, we are a team!"). He's said good things about Julio Jones and Calvin Johnson. I'm with him, people start stuff with him, and he finishes it. He gets all the respect in the world from me.

    By the way, on one of the NFL AM interviews he said he wants to be known more as an "All-Pro" then a "Talker" so he was going to tone it down. And since then, I haven't seen him saying anything inflammatory. Though I'm sure that will change slightly when the season begins.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 10:41 am
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    Wasn't really directed to you.


    I got that, but you kind of directed it towards anybody over 30 and that includes me.

    I guess I directed it at myself also. I am well over 30 also. :)
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 12:52 pm
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 12:58 pm
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    I won't EVER apologize for my Confidence because it Offended your Insecurity. Truth

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    haha, Nice.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 1:02 pm
  • Dick is genious. A degree in Communications (appropriate) from Stanford. Is he really going to give a rats arse what anyone thinks of him 15 or 20 years from now from atop his pile of cash...?? I wouldn't.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 2:35 pm
  • McGruff wrote:
    CALIHAWK1 wrote:
    BlueTalons wrote:[quote="Tical21"]Don't even start to compare Sherm to the glove. Talking trash during the game to get in a players head is one thing. The intent is to disrupt and get a player or team off of their game. It was a huge part of my game personally as well. But there is a huge difference between trash talking and taunting. Sherman's antics are more TO than they are Payton/Jordan/Sanders. It is bush and, frankly, embarrassing.

    Gary did do some of his talk off the court. IMHO, Gary did not have as big a stage that is there today with dozens of sports shows, the Internet, and social media. The other thing about "trash talking"...the media LOVES it! It gives them something to talk about.

    (On a side note, I found this quote funny from this NBA article:)
    In Seattle, Gary Payton was in perpetual danger of suffering a sprained jaw and larynx, sometimes jabbering even as he drove to the basket. Payton was so verbally inclined that he even trashed his own teammates, referring, for instance, to Sonics center Ervin Johnson as "Tragic Johnson."

    I don't think Sherm would ever trash a teammate.



    He trashed Kam.


    Overstatement.

    The only people getting offended at this are latte-sipping, pot smoking fans who think the player represent them.[/quote]

    What did I overstate exactly?

    Swing and miss at attempted smack. Thats bush league smack.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 3:36 pm
  • He trashed Kam.


    What did I overstate exactly?Swing and miss at attempted smack. Thats bush league smack.


    What exactly did Sherm say that "trashed" Kam? If by telling the truth in a subtle fashion was talking trash than I guess your right. :roll: He never came out and Said Kam Jacked up on that play. I completley disagree with your assessment.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Tue May 14, 2013 3:42 pm
  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:
    McGruff wrote:
    CALIHAWK1 wrote:[quote="BlueTalons"][quote="Tical21"]Don't even start to compare Sherm to the glove. Talking trash during the game to get in a players head is one thing. The intent is to disrupt and get a player or team off of their game. It was a huge part of my game personally as well. But there is a huge difference between trash talking and taunting. Sherman's antics are more TO than they are Payton/Jordan/Sanders. It is bush and, frankly, embarrassing.

    Gary did do some of his talk off the court. IMHO, Gary did not have as big a stage that is there today with dozens of sports shows, the Internet, and social media. The other thing about "trash talking"...the media LOVES it! It gives them something to talk about.

    (On a side note, I found this quote funny from this NBA article:)
    In Seattle, Gary Payton was in perpetual danger of suffering a sprained jaw and larynx, sometimes jabbering even as he drove to the basket. Payton was so verbally inclined that he even trashed his own teammates, referring, for instance, to Sonics center Ervin Johnson as "Tragic Johnson."

    I don't think Sherm would ever trash a teammate.



    He trashed Kam.


    Overstatement.

    The only people getting offended at this are latte-sipping, pot smoking fans who think the player represent them.[/quote]

    What did I overstate exactly?

    Swing and miss at attempted smack. Thats bush league smack.[/quote]
    No wonder Kam doesn't like Sherman. I mean, you ever see them hanging out in the off-season or anything like that?

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Tue May 14, 2013 3:53 pm
  • -The Glove- wrote:No wonder Kam doesn't like Sherman. I mean, you ever see them hanging out in the off-season or anything like that?

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    Oh wait!


    Come'on, you can see it Kam's eyes. He just waitin' for Sherm to look the other way so he can cold-cock him...
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Re: Richard Sherman
Thu May 16, 2013 2:50 pm
  • Hawk Fans...

    When it comes to extending Sherman and/or Thomas, which one do you keep? Obviously you'll give a big deal to Wilson and Okung, and Harvin's contact is already on the books.

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    Think they could, but would bet against it. I'd bet on them re-signing Earl Thomas. I wonder whether they'll re-sign Richard Sherman.


    The Niners have a similar issue with Crabtree, Aldon Smith, and Iupati. We'll be able to keep 2, maybe 3, but if we do keep 3 it'll mean we lose Justin Smith, Bowman, or Vernon Davis.
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Thu May 16, 2013 3:09 pm
  • NinerBuff wrote:Hawk Fans...

    When it comes to extending Sherman and/or Thomas, which one do you keep? Obviously you'll give a big deal to Wilson and Okung, and Harvin's contact is already on the books.

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    Think they could, but would bet against it. I'd bet on them re-signing Earl Thomas. I wonder whether they'll re-sign Richard Sherman.


    The Niners have a similar issue with Crabtree, Aldon Smith, and Iupati. We'll be able to keep 2, maybe 3, but if we do keep 3 it'll mean we lose Justin Smith, Bowman, or Vernon Davis.


    Tough call. If you can only have one, Thomas is still the least replaceable currently. I take Thomas.
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Re: Richard Sherman
Thu May 16, 2013 4:42 pm
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    CALIHAWK1 wrote:
    McGruff wrote:[quote="CALIHAWK1"][quote="BlueTalons"][quote="Tical21"]Don't even start to compare Sherm to the glove. Talking trash during the game to get in a players head is one thing. The intent is to disrupt and get a player or team off of their game. It was a huge part of my game personally as well. But there is a huge difference between trash talking and taunting. Sherman's antics are more TO than they are Payton/Jordan/Sanders. It is bush and, frankly, embarrassing.

    Gary did do some of his talk off the court. IMHO, Gary did not have as big a stage that is there today with dozens of sports shows, the Internet, and social media. The other thing about "trash talking"...the media LOVES it! It gives them something to talk about.

    (On a side note, I found this quote funny from this NBA article:)
    In Seattle, Gary Payton was in perpetual danger of suffering a sprained jaw and larynx, sometimes jabbering even as he drove to the basket. Payton was so verbally inclined that he even trashed his own teammates, referring, for instance, to Sonics center Ervin Johnson as "Tragic Johnson."

    I don't think Sherm would ever trash a teammate.



    He trashed Kam.


    Overstatement.

    The only people getting offended at this are latte-sipping, pot smoking fans who think the player represent them.[/quote]

    What did I overstate exactly?

    Swing and miss at attempted smack. Thats bush league smack.[/quote]
    No wonder Kam doesn't like Sherman. I mean, you ever see them hanging out in the off-season or anything like that?

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    I never said they didn't like one another. I said Sherm trasjed Kam which is true. Never said anything other than that.
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