Regarding Penalties.

Seattle is once again on top of the penalty heap.

Not something this years team is good enough to overcome combined with a defense ranking on the bottom of every category.

Pre-snap penalties are ridiculous at this stage of the season. False starts in stadiums that are not 1/2 as loud as Clink.

Delay of game?...Really?

Holding calls/legit or not have taken 4 TD's off the board in just 2 weeks.

It is quite obvious that the 2014 Seahawks need to stop making all these boneheaded ones. Some cannot be controlled, but the ones putting us in 2nd or 3rd and long, need to go away.

http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2 ... 23xml.html

The coach's will tell you all penalties are bad, but there are penalties they'll live with because it means your players are playing hard...........and then there are the unacceptable penalties that cannot happen.

Last year we were the most penalized team because we played too hard and too aggressive for some refs liking.............this year? Nope, now it's mostly bonehead penalties.

We keep hearing Pete say they're going to clean up the bonehead penalties, but we've yet to see that. As of now, this team is not good enough to overcome drive killing and TD killing penalties.

Sgt. Largent":201dwbjo said:

The coach's will tell you all penalties are bad, but there are penalties they'll live with because it means your players are playing hard...........and then there are the unacceptable penalties that cannot happen.

Last year we were the most penalized team because we played too hard and too aggressive for some refs liking.............this year? Nope, now it's mostly bonehead penalties.

We keep hearing Pete say they're going to clean up the bonehead penalties, but we've yet to see that. As of now, this team is not good enough to overcome drive killing and TD killing penalties.

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Pete can say that all he wants, but in the end, he has zero control of the play on the field. The players are going to have to mentally prepare themselves, no amount of coaching is going to clean up where were at now. These are all NFL athletes who have played this sport for at least 7+ years (way way more for most). They know what not to do. Its got to come from them at this point.

What is Okung, a veteran tackle, making all these boneheaded unwanted pre-snap penalties. Hell he even makes post-snap penalties. He is playing himself right out of a nice contract.

Largent80":320t93v6 said:

What is Okung, a veteran tackle, making all these boneheaded unwanted pre-snap penalties. Hell he even makes post-snap penalties. He is playing himself right out of a nice contract.

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He is, and hes always seemed to jump to early. But ive been cutting him slack because hes more then obviously injured and being asked to continue playing one of the toughest positions to play. His penalties scream someone who must have a perfect jump on the ball to stand a chance right now. And thats scarier then the penalties.

Bennett is doing the same on defense. Then you have Russell Wilson and his delay of game penalties. They have at least one of these brainfarts each game. It's been pretty consistent each week.

Cartire":a29cilyy said:

Pete can say that all he wants, but in the end, he has zero control of the play on the field. The players are going to have to mentally prepare themselves, no amount of coaching is going to clean up where were at now. These are all NFL athletes who have played this sport for at least 7+ years (way way more for most). They know what not to do. Its got to come from them at this point.

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Pete has control, the problem is the only control he has is to bench the players when they make too many penalties. That's how you fix stupid penalties, you sharpen the player's focus by telling them "we've had enough, any more false starts and you're on the bench."

Problem is Pete can't make that threat because there's no one behind guys like Okung and Britt.

I understand some of the defensive penalties, with the rule changes and young inexperienced players and a defense hungry for sacks and INT's.

But the offensive ones are putting us in long yards to go situations. We don't have the depth of last year and it is showing itself in many areas. It would be nice to put these penalties in the rear view, but alas, I don't see it changing.

I agree with the common sentiment that instead of having "aggression" penalties (which might be a little easier to take), the Seahawks are committing more of the boneheaded-type of penalties. Some of these have been cause by newer players having to play before maybe they are ready because of injuries to key players. When you have your backup-backup-backup cornerback in the 6th game of the season... bad things will happen. Someone these also have been committed by veteran players though, like Okung. Even Zach Miller had that 3 penalty game.. and all of them seemed to be crucial. Okung seems to be overcompensating for an injury however... Miller might have been doing the same because he was out soon after that. So either way it seems like not only have we lost some of the aggressive edge, injuries are contribution to a lot of the penalty ruckus.

Can't the coach fine the players maybe $1000 a yard in penalties???
Reviewable in the coaches office of course.

Read http://www.fieldgulls.com/2014/10/2...lysis-a-big-reason-were-losing-i-can-prove-it if you really want some insight to what our eyes have been telling us all season. We are getting penaltied more than all the other teams and EACH team that plays us has the fewest penalties called against them.

It's the parity effect, or as my friends and I call it, "The Invisible Hand of the NFL".

Basically, the problem isn't just that the Seahawks are being penalized more than anyone in the league (that's the norm), it's that the Hawks are being penalized more than anyone in the league while their opponents are being penalized AT THE LOWEST RATE in the league.

Now it's only one more penalty than the last season which means that if we can get our O-line back in order we might fall back to the league average instead of the most penalized.

In our last 3 games we have been penalized 32 times. Our opponents have committed 29 penalties THE ENTIRE season. Something is fishy.

Remember, never go full conspiracy! The Seahawks are the most penalized team and they also have the fewest called against their opponents, but the biggest gap is the pre-snap calls. We can't really blame bias or blunder on the part of the officials for pre-snap penalties. That is a lack of focus by the players. We have had 23 pre-snap penalties called against us; our opponents have had 5 all year. That is as many a Bennett has all by himself. The league average is about 16 called for and against.

The pre-snaps are purely a matter of a player's focus or lack thereof on a given play. The fact that teams are committing less than one per game against us is telling at how focused other teams are when playing Seattle, as we should expect. As far as the rule changes regarding illegal contact, the Seahawks have not been called for illegal contact all year. Defensive holding has been called against us 3 times, but have had it called in our favor 5 times. So the new emphasis in that regard actually seems to be benefiting us at this point.

Also, Offensive holding - even.

We can only hope that the Seahawks get their collective 2014 $hit together and start playing with the focus and edge they had last year. Cruise control gets you to 3-3, time to hit the accelerator!

http://www.nflpenalties.com/phase.php?year=2014

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It's a fact we're being called tighter than our opponents.

Especially on offensive holding.

Make of it what you will, but it's obvious something's going on.

Reaneypark":359ld83j said:

It's a fact we're being called tighter than our opponents.

Especially on offensive holding.

Make of it what you will, but it's obvious something's going on.

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Reaney, I thought that about the holding as well, but we have been called 10 times while our opponents have had 11 called against them. Maybe the timing of the calls might be why it seems one-sided against us, or maybe we're just seeing things through blue and green glasses.

Largent80":19du1tri said:

What is Okung, a veteran tackle, making all these boneheaded unwanted pre-snap penalties. Hell he even makes post-snap penalties. He is playing himself right out of a nice contract.

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Watch Okung, he's jumping early almost every time! Granted he's had some challenging assignments, but that's what LTs are for. Actually Pete can control some of themby calling a time out before RW lets the play clock run out inside the 10 yard line! That was one super fast play clock in St. Louis.

evergreen":27gdqacd said:

............That was one super fast play clock in St. Louis.

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Agree. Something was amiss and it affected both teams though the Hawks more so.