bigskydoc
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Placed their franchise on the arm of Sam Bradford, now on Kirk Cousins. Just seems they need to reconsider their QB evaluation.
Kirk Cousins is not the problem for the Vikings, in fact he has been playing decently this season. He is 8th in yards, he's completing 70% of his passes, and he also has a decent amount of TDs, and his interception total is not the worst in the world, especially when we consider how much he passes.bigskydoc":l3dek6dx said:Placed their franchise on the arm of Sam Bradford, now on Kirk Cousins. Just seems they need to reconsider their QB evaluation.
Not just going for it, but the play calls- both times directly toward Wagner.knownone":30omyx1f said:Eh, Kirk Cousins is not why they are losing games. Coaching is. They were bad tonight. They were bad in New England. Going for it 4th down in a defensive game when you are down 3 not once but twice... cost them the game.
If he's smart he stays in school, nowhere near ready for the League. Sadly if he does enter, he'll probably go top ten purely off the dreaded 'potential'.Sox-n-Hawks":2ka8ic7i said:They should go for Hebert. He should go middle of the first round.
It cost them points; it did not cost them the GAME...knownone":2nlxgsyd said:Eh, Kirk Cousins is not why they are losing games. Coaching is. They were bad tonight. They were bad in New England. Going for it 4th down in a defensive game when you are down 3 not once but twice... cost them the game.
Spin Doctor":ne8fxtuv said:Kirk Cousins is not the problem for the Vikings, in fact he has been playing decently this season. He is 8th in yards, he's completing 70% of his passes, and he also has a decent amount of TDs, and his interception total is not the worst in the world, especially when we consider how much he passes.bigskydoc":ne8fxtuv said:Placed their franchise on the arm of Sam Bradford, now on Kirk Cousins. Just seems they need to reconsider their QB evaluation.
Is Kirk Cousins an elite QB? Hell no, but I would place him in the same group as the "very good QBs". He kind of looked like a mini Russ the way he was extending plays (not as slippery or fast, but still bought time). His passes were accurate, and he put it right where his receivers could get the ball. They could not catch a cold against the Seahawks, and every pass was highly contested by our secondary.
Kirk Cousin's is in a completely different stratosphere than Sam Bradford is. I didn't see bad QB play against the Seahawks. I saw a team that couldn't do even the basic things right. Does he deserve to be paid like he is? Probably not, I think the position's salary is over inflated relative to their peers. That being said my impression that the biggest issue with the Vikings was coaching, and lack of execution from the skill positions. Cousin's is far down the list on problems with the Vikings team.
SoulfishHawk":18rdmpez said:Just look at this record in prime time, big games, playoffs etc. It's shocking that a guy like that got 84 mil guaranteed. The Vikes fans that I talked to, to a man, all said it was a horrible signing. He's average, holds on to the ball too much etc. I think he's good, but far from great.
Uncle Si":1zbkjdvk said:SoulfishHawk":1zbkjdvk said:Just look at this record in prime time, big games, playoffs etc. It's shocking that a guy like that got 84 mil guaranteed. The Vikes fans that I talked to, to a man, all said it was a horrible signing. He's average, holds on to the ball too much etc. I think he's good, but far from great.
4-24 against teams with a winning record. 0-5 this year
Maulbert":8bzyocdg said:Uncle Si":8bzyocdg said:SoulfishHawk":8bzyocdg said:Just look at this record in prime time, big games, playoffs etc. It's shocking that a guy like that got 84 mil guaranteed. The Vikes fans that I talked to, to a man, all said it was a horrible signing. He's average, holds on to the ball too much etc. I think he's good, but far from great.
4-24 against teams with a winning record. 0-5 this year
A slightly more successful Matt Stafford.
Seanhawk":3crfm2wm said:Maulbert":3crfm2wm said:Uncle Si":3crfm2wm said:SoulfishHawk":3crfm2wm said:Just look at this record in prime time, big games, playoffs etc. It's shocking that a guy like that got 84 mil guaranteed. The Vikes fans that I talked to, to a man, all said it was a horrible signing. He's average, holds on to the ball too much etc. I think he's good, but far from great.
4-24 against teams with a winning record. 0-5 this year
A slightly more successful Matt Stafford.
So does that make Cousins SUPER elite?
Maulbert":30uiqmm0 said:Seanhawk":30uiqmm0 said:Maulbert":30uiqmm0 said:Uncle Si":30uiqmm0 said:4-24 against teams with a winning record. 0-5 this year
A slightly more successful Matt Stafford.
So does that make Cousins SUPER elite?
I know you're being sarcastic, but Stafford is the most overrated QB in the last quarter century.
Seahawkfan80":1nu7ozw2 said:Maulbert":1nu7ozw2 said:Seanhawk":1nu7ozw2 said:Maulbert":1nu7ozw2 said:A slightly more successful Matt Stafford.
So does that make Cousins SUPER elite?
I know you're being sarcastic, but Stafford is the most overrated QB in the last quarter century.
Sam Bradford says, " Hold my beer!"
Maulbert":1cxl44an said:Seahawkfan80":1cxl44an said:Maulbert":1cxl44an said:Seanhawk":1cxl44an said:So does that make Cousins SUPER elite?
I know you're being sarcastic, but Stafford is the most overrated QB in the last quarter century.
Sam Bradford says, " Hold my beer!"
Bradford was overpaid, but he is considered a journeyman backup. Stafford is given elite status without any justification.
Stafford's physical gifts are elite, and that is the reason. His actual quarterbacking ability is quite average, of course. Think Jeff George, kind of.Maulbert":11um3zst said:Seahawkfan80":11um3zst said:Maulbert":11um3zst said:Seanhawk":11um3zst said:So does that make Cousins SUPER elite?
I know you're being sarcastic, but Stafford is the most overrated QB in the last quarter century.
Sam Bradford says, " Hold my beer!"
Bradford was overpaid, but he is considered a journeyman backup. Stafford is given elite status without any justification.