RolandDeschain
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Agreed. Now the Bengals have a bad case of gingervitis, heheuheuheheuhehehehe.peachesenregalia":1soulvvo said:
*shows self out*
Dalton gets 6 yrs, $115 mil
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peachesenregalia":3vx9vpbk said:
Duh; what part of "shows self out" did you not understand, starfish?
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RW is gonna break the bank given his 1 ring and counting future.
He deserves it too.
He deserves it too.
I can only rationalize from guys like Cutler and Dalton getting this kind of cash, and then Kap making the actually surprisingly reasonable deal he did, that the world has turned upside down. And based on this, I think we can get Russell for like $50/year. Because none of this makes sense. None of it.
Sigh...but all that said, I still believe Russell understands the quality of the players around him and I don't see him taking a Flacco-esque deal that will kill the team. I ALSO don't see Schneider and Carroll offering it to him, frankly. They'll certainly make him a well paid man, but I think they've made it abundantly clear that they will not sacrifice the team for a single player
Sigh...but all that said, I still believe Russell understands the quality of the players around him and I don't see him taking a Flacco-esque deal that will kill the team. I ALSO don't see Schneider and Carroll offering it to him, frankly. They'll certainly make him a well paid man, but I think they've made it abundantly clear that they will not sacrifice the team for a single player
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Bad move by the Bungles. Dude CANNOT handle pass pressure at all.
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Russ is gonna break us, thanks a lot Bengals.
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For all we know Dalton's contract could be structured like Kap's, and we'll spend 48 hours guffawing about how overpaid he now is, only to learn that it's another massively team friendly deal.
For Hawks fans, I think the real question is if it is structured similarly to Kaps, what does that mean for Wilson? Does he follow the trend of Kap and Dalton, or does that ring push him into the more traditional (and back breaking) QB contracts we see with Brees, Romo, Cutler, Flacco, Stafford, Peyton, Brady, Manning?
For Hawks fans, I think the real question is if it is structured similarly to Kaps, what does that mean for Wilson? Does he follow the trend of Kap and Dalton, or does that ring push him into the more traditional (and back breaking) QB contracts we see with Brees, Romo, Cutler, Flacco, Stafford, Peyton, Brady, Manning?
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Wilson's deal won't be like Kaepernick's because as a team, we don't need the ability to cut Wilson each year. He's here for the long haul and there are zero questions about what he can do, fantasy players looking at accumulation-based stats be damned.
I don't think it'll quite be the traditional elite QB contract, though. We'll see.
I don't think it'll quite be the traditional elite QB contract, though. We'll see.
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^^^ Was referring more to the atypical salary de-escalators related to both individual and team performance which frees up cap room for the 9ers to get more weapons if Kap or the team aren't living up to expectations rather than the ability to cut him should something go really wrong.
I am a TCU fan.
I liked Dalton as a college QB.
NEVER thought he would pull a long term stating spot in the NFL.
Not sure this is great news for Bengal fans but it's great news for A.D.
I liked Dalton as a college QB.
NEVER thought he would pull a long term stating spot in the NFL.
Not sure this is great news for Bengal fans but it's great news for A.D.
Popeyejones":25pt1slu said:
It seems to be the new standard for teams that have not fully bought into a quarterback for whatever reason.
My thought is did the Patton Manning contract (because of the neck reservation) introduce this type of contract structure?
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I almost have to believe that Dalton's contract is structured in a way that makes it not as bad as it seems based on the total value.....i.e. smaller signing bonus, less guaranteed money, back-loaded, what have you. Because he clearly is not a $19M/year quarterback. He's not even half that.
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Sure enough, per Rotoworld...
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Cincinnati, what are you doing?
Cincinnati, STAHP!
(Even with the details listed, it's still too much for a guy who's 'good' because he has AJ Green bailing him out.
Cincinnati, STAHP!
(Even with the details listed, it's still too much for a guy who's 'good' because he has AJ Green bailing him out.
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Seems like the price of doing business in the NFL. Bengals had to show Dalton some love, otherwise they undermine his leadership position. They have done well the past few years in building their team. I don't think this deal is crap crippling and if they change position on Dalton in a year or so, they could get from underneath the deal with no major issues.
How it impacts Wilson potentially getting a deal next year is not something I can say I can gauge. Looking at what was posted earlier in this thread, ~$14M/yr over the next 7 for Dalton, counting the $1M he was set to earn this year makes it a deal that could keep Wilson under $20M average for the life of his upcoming contract. We will find out in about 12 months or so.
How it impacts Wilson potentially getting a deal next year is not something I can say I can gauge. Looking at what was posted earlier in this thread, ~$14M/yr over the next 7 for Dalton, counting the $1M he was set to earn this year makes it a deal that could keep Wilson under $20M average for the life of his upcoming contract. We will find out in about 12 months or so.
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I wonder if the current QB salary bubble will ever pop. What would it take for the Daltons, Cutlers, and Flaccos of the world to stop getting contracts that take up such a large amount of the salary cap?
KC is trying to resist giving this type of contract to Alex Smith; I wonder if they'll break the trend. Probably not.
KC is trying to resist giving this type of contract to Alex Smith; I wonder if they'll break the trend. Probably not.
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If Wilson asked for 18M/yr, I would jump on that. Note: I have not been hired as a NFL GM for a reason.
But Alex Smith is asking for 18M/yr, and if KC ends up giving that to him, Wilson might look at it and think that if Alex Smith can get 18M/yr, he should get 22M/yr (and he would be right).
But Alex Smith is asking for 18M/yr, and if KC ends up giving that to him, Wilson might look at it and think that if Alex Smith can get 18M/yr, he should get 22M/yr (and he would be right).
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^^^ yep. Who knows if Wilson follows this mini-trend or not, but 22 million per is a totally reasonable get for him. I don't think he's worth it yet (IMO Rodgers is the only guy who is), but he's as likely to get there as anyone and has the ring already.
