Russ Tonight

[Threedee]

Yeah, Wilson!

 

[Mizak]

Way to pick the times he rarely does it. Guarantee you if you pull the stats, he's still near league leading in fewest number of throws over the middle. And utilizing TEs? They are 31st in the league.

And the outlets / underneath stuff? He throws them because he can't hit the wr routes with regularity. He simoly will not throw if his guy isnt WIDE open because, well, you pick the reason. Look up NextGen stats. Russ is 34th in the league in aggressive throws (defined as throws into tight coverage). Wasnt that also something he was supposedly forbidden to do in Seattle?

Against the Chiefs, 9 of his 12 completions all game were behind the LOS. That translates to 3 completions beyond 0 yards... all game.

Kudos to Sean for keeping him within his game manager sweet spot and relying on his defense, ground game, and complimentary ball (sound familiar?). And, of course waiting for opponents to make enough mistakes to lose.

250 million for an 8 ypcatch average. What's that? 32.5 mill per yard averaged? Good deal! And that's high for Russ this year.

These are textbook 'Pete managing Russ' styled wins. Sean just wont let him scramble drill his way to yards.

Against the Bills:

Den RBs - 9 catches, 70 yards
All Den WRs - 12 catches 102 yards
All others - 3 catches for the TEs for the remaining 21

Last game against the Chiefs

DEN RBs - 7 catches 35 yards
All Den WRs - 5 catches 79 yards
All others- no catches for TEs

But go ahead and circle the TDs and RTG. Feels better that way.

250 million per annum... for sub Alex Smith performance.

And he doesn't have the most injured o-line in the league contributing to a slump (yet still is 3rd highest in the league in sacks). Nor does he have 2 key contributing WRs being integrated into the offense and making their share of miscues. And, he doesn't have a 1st time play caller making mistakes. He has Sean Payton.

And the above stats are him 'playing really well'

6.9 yards per average for the year. But he's not alone in the bottom 10 or so in the league in that category. He and D Watson, the other 250 mill 'elite' qb in the bottom 10 or so in the leeague are keeping the Desmond Ritters and Z Wilson's company. Watson can at least claim injury as a contributor.

No thanks.

Hats off to Payton for coaching his way to 4 wins so far. It's brilliant work. And I mean that sincerely. Much respect. Vintage 'you cant win the game in the 1st qtr...' type stuff.

Okay but, Russ beat Mahomes and Allen the last two games. What did Geno do to Mahomes last year?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Geno has never been clutch, so there is that. A game here and there.

 

[keasley45]

Okay but, Russ beat Mahomes and Allen the last two games. What did Geno do to Mahomes last year?

Russ didnt beat anyone. Sean Payton beat them with superior strategy, commplimentary ball and NOT relying on a passing game to win.

Against the Chiefs, he was something like 3 for 9, but with 2 TDs. So Russ was winning the game, completeing 33 percent of his passes? No. The defense put the offense in great position to score.

And did you watch the Bills game? Buffalo lost it. They gave the game away. Thats what everyone is talking about. Not how Russ won it.

 

[Cyrus12]

So do we sign Russ in the off season after he is cut to com-pete with Geno??? Forgive and forget?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Russ didnt beat anyone. Sean Payton beat them with superior strategy, commplimentary ball and NOT relying on a passing game to win.

Against the Chiefs, he was something like 3 for 9, but with 2 TDs. So Russ was winning the game, completeing 33 percent of his passes? No. The defense put the offense in great position to score.

And did you watch the Bills game? Buffalo lost it. They gave the game away. Thats what everyone is talking about. Not how Russ won it.

24 for 29, 193 yards, 2 TD's, zero picks, 123.5 QBR.

Yeah, Russ really sucked. He had nothing to do with them winning. Or the game winning drive. The Denial is impressive. This is exactly why I was looking forward to jumping on here today. If Denver wins, Russ had nothing to do with it. That's adorable.
Back-to-back wins over Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen.

 

[morgulon1]

24 for 29, 193 yards, 2 TD's, zero picks, 123.5 QBR.

Yeah, Russ really sucked. He had nothing to do with them winning. Or the game winning drive. The Denial is impressive. This is exactly why I was looking forward to jumping on here today. If Denver wins, Russ had nothing to do with it. That's adorable.
Back-to-back wins over Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen.

He won as a game manager . Short dink and dunk passing. Dont scramble around or turn the ball over . The Russ you came to know and love is no longer around. Yeah he's the " winner" .

Payton is winning in spite of him .

 

[Palmegranite]

Maybe in spite of the kicker. That dude needs a few thousand more hours of practice on those easy extra points.

 

[TwilightError]

12th man got Russ one more win.

 

[knownone]

Russ deserves credit for executing what Payton is asking at a reasonably high level. But the Broncos will not win many games if that's their blueprint.

 

[SonicHawk]

Russ deserves credit for executing what Payton is asking at a reasonably high level. But the Broncos will not win many games if that's their blueprint.

100%... Payton has coached this team like he wants Caleb Williams and the football gods have said, go !@#$ yourself Sean.

 

[keasley45]

24 for 29, 193 yards, 2 TD's, zero picks, 123.5 QBR.

Yeah, Russ really sucked. He had nothing to do with them winning. Or the game winning drive. The Denial is impressive. This is exactly why I was looking forward to jumping on here today. If Denver wins, Russ had nothing to do with it. That's adorable.
Back-to-back wins over Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen.

Its football, not stat stacking,

Russ played mistake free. Good for him. But to state 'he beat' either team?
The love for him is what's adorable.

The consensus in both games by everyone covering the games was that both Mahomes and Allen had terrible games, which is why they lost. Thats obvious. If either of them play their typical games, they win.

But the critique is comical. When we beat the Broncos in week one last year, in part by forcing 2 critical fumbles, the naysayers claimed that Geno and the Hawks hadn't accomplished anything, and that rather, Denver gave the game away...

Plenty of receipts for that one. And that despite Geno nearly setting a franchise record for consecutive completions and tossing 2 TDs, distributing the ball to anyone and everyone, and being the obvious reason we won.

Now, in a game where the review of Russ after the Chiefs game was 'not great' by even the Denver media, he's credited with beating Mahomes?

I'll say it over and over again. His rating was 111 the game we played against the Commanders his last year here.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Him and the Broncos just got done beating Mahomes and Allen. It's funny how much it bothers you that he is playing a lot better this year.
What's comical is that you're still bitching and whining about a guy who has been gone since March of 2022. VERY comical and childish. I picture someone with folded arms who is gonna' take his ball and go home. It's the hilarious gift that keeps on giving.
And as a bonus, you get all butt hurt and make it about Geno. Geno was horrible until the 2nd half, and it was nice to see him get clutch when it mattered.
We need more of it, especially against really good teams. You make excuses for why Russ and the Bronco's WIN, all while making excuses every time Geno plays like ass.

 

[Mizak]

Geno has only gotten 3 points in 2nd half In Seattle losses this year. Explain that.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

And went 6 quarters without scoring a TD until the 2nd half on Sunday. That might be good enough for some, but it shouldn't be.

 

[keasley45]

Him and the Broncos just got done beating Mahomes and Allen. It's funny how much it bothers you that he is playing a lot better this year.
What's comical is that you're still bitching and whining about a guy who has been gone since March of 2022. VERY comical and childish. I picture someone with folded arms who is gonna' take his ball and go home. It's the hilarious gift that keeps on giving.
And as a bonus, you get all butt hurt and make it about Geno. Geno was horrible until the 2nd half, and it was nice to see him get clutch when it mattered.
We need more of it, especially against really good teams. You make excuses for why Russ and the Bronco's WIN, all while making excuses every time Geno plays like ass.

Soulfish,

Russ's play, now that he's not here, doesn't bother me in the slightest. He's not Seattle's problem. It's Payton's job to work around his skillset. Not ours.

 

[keasley45]

He won as a game manager . Short dink and dunk passing. Dont scramble around or turn the ball over . The Russ you came to know and love is no longer around. Yeah he's the " winner" .

Payton is winning in spite of him .

Payton is doing a ridiculous job, honestly. I thought his bravado and chest pounding / slandering the previous staff was a dick move. But you cant argue with what he's cobbled together.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Soulfish,

Russ's play, now that he's not here, doesn't bother me in the slightest. He's not Seattle's problem. It's Payton's job to work around his skillset. Not ours.

Exactly, not our problem. We fleeced them, it was good enough then, and it's good enough now.
But there you go again, it's PAYTON who is winning. Clearly not the players on the field.

 

[bileever]

Watching Sean Payton tonight has got me thinking.

Pete lets guys be themselves, and in some cases it is for the worst. Amplifying them.

Sean Payton meanwhile, put Wilson in his place, told him to stop being a politician, and stop kissing so many babies. Gave him the structure and discipline he needed to get his career back on track.

You have a point, but Russ was more willing to do as he was told after last year's debacle. The way he's playing now is exactly how Pete wanted him to play. He just rebelled against it because he thought he was holding better cards.

But you're not wrong about Pete's approach having downsides.

 

[rcaido]

How amazing was that throw and catch from Wilson/Sutton.

Wilson has two of the most improbable throw/catches in NFL history now according to Nextgen stats.

If this was from Mahomes, Erin, or Burrows they would be talking about nonstop.