Overreaction

[vonstout]

You aren’t going to win many games with 4 turnovers. The defense was bad, but they were put in some bad situations with 3 of the turnovers. Every team in the NFC has had some bad games. TB is down 31-0 at half. A lot of people had them being one of the favorites. Zona lost because their kicker was short on a 49 yard FG. NO is playing their best game of the year tonight. Pitt had to have a big comeback and had to hang on to beat DALLAS. KC almost lost to Carolina. The next 2 games will be huge. After those, we have 4 games that should give our D some confidence (or totally ruin it!). The Rams and Cards both have tougher schedules than we do.

 

[John63]

You aren’t going to win many games with 4 turnovers. The defense was bad, but they were put in some bad situations with 3 of the turnovers. Every team in the NFC has had some bad games. TB is down 31-0 at half. A lot of people had them being one of the favorites. Zona lost because their kicker was short on a 49 yard FG. NO is playing their best game of the year tonight. Pitt had to have a big comeback and had to hang on to beat DALLAS. KC almost lost to Carolina. The next 2 games will be huge. After those, we have 4 games that should give our D some confidence (or totally ruin it!). The Rams and Cards both have tougher schedules than we do.

The defense made Buffalo punt once. The TOs we had gave 16 points. That means the defense gave up 28 points without too. Guess what they avg giving up 28 points. TOs or not that is pathetic and puts so much more in the offense and leaves no room for mistakes. This team is screwed till the defense can be well avg.

 

[AlaskaHAWK]

We are still leading the division and if the Saints win I believe we are at second seed. Certainly no time to be thinking the sky is falling. However bring very concerned about this absolutely ghastly defense is not an over reaction.

 

[TwistedHusky]

Very puzzled about how being upset by the worst defense ever in NFL history (vs the pass), is 'overreaction'.

 

[PNW]

Very puzzled about how being upset by the worst defense ever in NFL history (vs the pass), is 'overreaction'.

Yep agreed, sure we’ll looking good in the regular season record wise, but a balanced team in the playoffs will smash us.

 

[Appyhawk]

This was a humbling loss. No other realistic way to look at it. We were never a threat to win this game. We were dominated at LOS start to finish.
But it's just one game. Trouble is if you let it turn into more than just one game. Same has happened to other good teams. It's happening to one right now in prime time. It's all about whether you learn and grow from it or just roll over and give up.

 

[getnasty]

Very puzzled about how being upset by the worst defense ever in NFL history (vs the pass), is 'overreaction'.

Once again because were 6 and 2 and every team in the league has flaws.

 

[PNW]

Very puzzled about how being upset by the worst defense ever in NFL history (vs the pass), is 'overreaction'.

Once again because were 6 and 2 and every team in the league has flaws.

Curious to know what other teams have historically bad flaws in the NFL this year?

 

[bmorepunk]

You aren’t going to win many games with 4 turnovers. The defense was bad, but they were put in some bad situations with 3 of the turnovers.

The defense gave up 28 points off of drives that didn't start with turnovers, including the first two possessions which were a complete crapfest.

Every team in the NFC has had some bad games. TB is down 31-0 at half. A lot of people had them being one of the favorites. Zona lost because their kicker was short on a 49 yard FG. NO is playing their best game of the year tonight. Pitt had to have a big comeback and had to hang on to beat DALLAS. KC almost lost to Carolina.

The Bucs have held teams to less than 25 points in six of their games this year, with three of those being less than 20. The Seahawks have given up less than 25 points twice this season, and zero under 20, and nothing close to single digits. The Seahawks have given opponents 30+ points in half their games this year.

Arizona has given up more than 30 points in three games. But they've also managed to hold teams to 10, 10, and 15 points this year.

New Orleans has only given up 30 or more points in two games this year, the ones they lost. But they've been able to hold teams under 25 half the season including tonight when they gave up only 3 points.

Pittsburgh has had one game this year where they gave up more than 25 points. They've held other teams under 20 in three of them.

The Chiefs have held other teams to 20 or less points in seven games this year.

The Seahawks "best" defensive performance was giving up 23 points. Half of their games have had 30+ scored by the other team.

The Miami and Minny games are about as close to a "good" defensive stretch as they've had (and the first half of the SF game). And that "good" is not good.

The first delusion this year was that it was just so many yards but, the points would be okay. Then it was that the run defense was top ranked. Then it was that there was lots of high scoring (yet other teams manage to have games where they actually stop the other team consistently). Then it was that points were coming in "garbage time".

This defense sucks. I'm not saying they can't turn it around, but it's a "good" week if the other team doesn't hang 30 points on them. They are going to live and die by turnovers and if Wilson is having a good week or not.

 

[hawker84]

It really is what it is. With our defense, this team is a second tier team. 6-2 is great. But we will get soundly beat playing a KC or Pittsburgh.

 

[TwistedHusky]

I am not sure what we think the opportunity is here.

My hope, for this year, was the first win in the playoffs since the SB loss against a traditional playoff caliber opponent. (ie non-wildcard). That looks unlikely now.

Even worse, between the Bucs and Saints - one of those teams will be a wildcard. We would not win against either team.

Not sure how we expect to beat the Packers if we faced them either, you can beat the Pack with the blitz - the Bucs showed that. But leave guys uncovered, protect the deep stuff, and give up short and intermediate throws all day? Rodgers will kill you.

This defense means we have no shot at winning a divisional playoff game. In fact, we likely lose by 2-3 TDs. Worse, if Pete reverts to 'PeteBall' in the playoffs like he sometimes does.

And if we face someone like the Saints or Bucs in the wildcard, we have no shot either.

You cannot expect to field the worst defense to ever appear on an NFL football field and expect anything in the playoffs.

Even more significantly, in a league focusing on enabling the passing game, you cannot expect being good against the run is worth anything if you are abysmal against the pass. No team ever, in history, has ever been worse against the pass than the Seahawks with this DC.

That means no chance in the playoffs. Being concerned about that cannot be an overreaction. It isn't the roster. It isn't injuries. It is who the Seahawks are now. A punchline, if not a laughingstock or joke.

Because no team has ever been worse at pass defense. Ever.

 

[LTH]

Very puzzled about how being upset by the worst defense ever in NFL history (vs the pass), is 'overreaction'.

Again its because you guys don't understand the process of how things are working... that's why this isn't the worst D in the history of the league till the season is over... there is still time to fix this thing... If you dont believe it's fixable fine that's your opinion just dont jump on the bandwagon after Carroll wins a superbowl...


LTH

 

[vonstout]

I’m not saying our defense is playing well enough to win in the playoffs. But look at who these teams you say we will lose to have played. Last night was the first game the Saints defense shut down anyone. The Steelers have had a soft schedule. I agree we will have to outscore teams to win. We ALWAYS start off early east coast games slow. We beat Miami in an early start and they beat every other team in our division. Yesterday was our worst game by far. If Russ doesn’t play well in the playoffs, we have no chance. But not having Carson, Hyde, or even Penny was a big factor yesterday. Losing by 10 with 4 turnovers and losing the T.O. Battle against the Cards were big factors in our 2 losses even with the defense giving up long drives in the first half. I’d certainly like our playoff chances if our defense played better, but we have a chance against anyone, even with our bad defense. Hopefully playing Philly, the Giants, Jets, and Wash, our defense will gain some confidence. If we give up morethan 20 to the Jets, Then we should forfeit our playoff spot

 

[bmorepunk]

30 PPG allwed.

THIRTY