kidhawk
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Since it’s being brought up in multiple threads, this link is the official tie breaking procedures
https://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
https://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures
Cyrus12":xujhfwus said:It was reported on seahawk gsmeday if Rams beat niners and hawks win next week then the last game wont matter.
I think it might not matter for the Div crown, but probably does matter for seeding. I may be wrong, the the Pack and the Saints are in play for the #1/2 seeds also.Cyrus12":1umjjphz said:It was reported on seahawk gsmeday if Rams beat niners and hawks win next week then the last game wont matter.
Cyrus12":3frqnikw said:It was reported on seahawk gsmeday if Rams beat niners and hawks win next week then the last game wont matter.
Uncle Si":150to1d9 said:Cyrus12":150to1d9 said:It was reported on seahawk gsmeday if Rams beat niners and hawks win next week then the last game wont matter.
This is correct, according to the playoff machine as well.
Not only that, but if the Saints lose one of their last 3, it won't matter there as well, as long as Green Bay wins 1 of their next 2
Barakas":spucsecd said:Cyrus12":spucsecd said:It was reported on seahawk gsmeday if Rams beat niners and hawks win next week then the last game wont matter.
I think the ESPN Playoff Machine is broken and has us always winning the tie breaker in common games. I don't think this is accurate. If the Rams beat the 49ers and we beat the Cards and then the 49ers beat us in Week 17 then our common game record is the same.
So it would go down to Strength of Victory tiebreaker and adds up all of the victories of teams you have beat. The Seahawks and 49ers share victories over many of the same teams so what we need to pay attention to are the records of the Falcons, Vikings, and Eagles for Seahawks and Saints, Redskins, and Packers for the 49ers.
In Week 15, before the Saints have played, our SOV advantage is 22 games won for the Seahawks teams versus 24 for the 49ers (25 if the Saints win tomorrow night).
So we need to be rooting for the Falcons, Vikings, and Eagles to get wins next week and the Saints, Redskins, and Packers to get losses for Week 17 to truly not matter.
I think...of course I could be wrong on all of this too!!!
JonRud":2sr2g4ch said:Barakas":2sr2g4ch said:Cyrus12":2sr2g4ch said:It was reported on seahawk gsmeday if Rams beat niners and hawks win next week then the last game wont matter.
I think the ESPN Playoff Machine is broken and has us always winning the tie breaker in common games. I don't think this is accurate. If the Rams beat the 49ers and we beat the Cards and then the 49ers beat us in Week 17 then our common game record is the same.
So it would go down to Strength of Victory tiebreaker and adds up all of the victories of teams you have beat. The Seahawks and 49ers share victories over many of the same teams so what we need to pay attention to are the records of the Falcons, Vikings, and Eagles for Seahawks and Saints, Redskins, and Packers for the 49ers.
In Week 15, before the Saints have played, our SOV advantage is 22 games won for the Seahawks teams versus 24 for the 49ers (25 if the Saints win tomorrow night).
So we need to be rooting for the Falcons, Vikings, and Eagles to get wins next week and the Saints, Redskins, and Packers to get losses for Week 17 to truly not matter.
I think...of course I could be wrong on all of this too!!!
I calculated this manually myself and I am in total agreement with you. it's very unlikely the Hawks can win the SOV tiebreaker and therefore win the West without beating SF.
Here is what is left. as you say, the Hawks SOV advantage is 22 wins.
Falcons - vs. Jags, at Bucs
Vikings - vs. Packers, at Bears
Eagles - vs Cowboys, at Giants
The 49ers SOV is currently 24 wins. their remaining games that matter are:
Saints - vs. Colts, at Titans, at Panthers
Redskins - vs. Giants, at Cowboys
Packers - at Vikings, at Lions
I think it's unlikely the Hawks are going to win the SOV tiebreaker, so I think no matter what they have to beat SF in Week 17 to win the division.
HawkRiderFan":crnqv05l said:Due to the loss to the Saints we need a 3 way tie don’t we. So assuming the Saints win tomorrow we may need the Packers to win Monday night depending on how Sunday goes.
kidhawk":1mqj5biu said:HawkRiderFan":1mqj5biu said:Due to the loss to the Saints we need a 3 way tie don’t we. So assuming the Saints win tomorrow we may need the Packers to win Monday night depending on how Sunday goes.
That’s best for the conference but Minnesota wining helps our SOV if we end the season tied for the division.
There are so many scenarios right now it just really depends on what you think we will do. If we win out not much else matters as we get a bye be it a 1 or 2 seed
kidhawk":vry81rei said:HawkRiderFan":vry81rei said:Due to the loss to the Saints we need a 3 way tie don’t we. So assuming the Saints win tomorrow we may need the Packers to win Monday night depending on how Sunday goes.
That’s best for the conference but Minnesota wining helps our SOV if we end the season tied for the division.
There are so many scenarios right now it just really depends on what you think we will do. If we win out not much else matters as we get a bye be it a 1 or 2 seed