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Malik McDowell
Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:09 pm
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Re: Malik McDowell
Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:54 pm
  • Intriguing. Some very Seahawk-y traits with the length and quickness. Also, this team isn't afraid of tweeners if they have a high pass rush ceiling and the ability to contribute at more than one position (Bruce Irvin, Michael Bennett, Frank Clark).

    I'd love Rob Staton's thoughts on the guy.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:50 am
  • he is an intriguing prospect, high ceiling but I remember reading he had some character issues and a questionable motor. Clark may have had some risks come in with him but there wasn't much concern about his work ethic. The motor question always makes me nervous
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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:45 pm
  • Malik is coming today to visit the Seahawks I hope they draft him he is super young 20 i dont buy all this taking plays off. His upside is tremendous.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:44 pm
  • And his floor is big time bust. Too many players with a way higher floor and just as high of ceiling. Pass
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:22 pm
  • He's 20 and already a significant force when playing up to his ability. If there is any coach that can get inside his head and make him play with fire and consistently during the plays he's allowed to play it's Pete.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:28 pm
  • I love when guys say that lets draft the safest guy we tried that With Curry and he was a bust. Jordan hill 3rd round pick couldnt stay on the field. I like PCJS doing their due diligence McDowell is a freak he is only 20 he just needs someone to harness his immense talent. I hope they take him.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:38 pm
  • Freak? How so? His explosion numbers are average and his tape sucks. Where are we going to play him to tap this immense talent? Myles Garrett is a freak, Malik McDowell not so much. Not before the 3rd round for me.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:36 pm
  • seeing that our pick is so late I basically consider 2.26 to b a 3rd roundpick. I would take him there if he was available; it would be pinnacle seahawks move consider ceiling ignore floor and bet on our unique culture and coaching to get the best out of this unique guy.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:15 pm
  • Million dollar body, nickel's worth of "want to". Yes, his potential ceiling is high but his low is
    the basement. I would go for Chris Wormley and let McDowell be great somewhere else.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:46 pm
  • Trade down into the early second round and take him. The draft is a crap shoot his skillset is an all pro skillset. A lot of you guys were against Frank Clark but people can change plus he is only 20 years old. McDowell and Witherspoon would be ideal. Whomever they take i support.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:03 pm
  • I think this is a guy if Dan Quinn was still coaching with the hawks we would consider him. Dan Quinn was noted for teaching and developing DL hand fighting techniques to become more effective rushers.

    http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/arti ... 4d988dc864

    I believe several Seahawks have credited him with this.

    A draft prospect who is raw and limited like McDowell may benefit greatly from a coach like Quinn. He is still very Seahawky in terms of being athletic. I think he lands in Atlanta to improve that defense even more.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:03 pm
  • I think Clint Hurtt the new dline coach will coach him up and he will want to show how good he can be.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:28 pm
  • Heard negative talk about his motivation. Hawks have met with him. Wouldn't be surprised about a 1st round DL/Edge like him or Tim Williams. But my money would be on Obi.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:44 pm
  • Woot!!!!! first time I reviewed a prospect that the hawks actually drafted :D
    Always thought our interior rush was weak!!!
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Re: Malik McDowell
Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:55 pm
  • bighawk wrote:Trade down into the early second round and take him. The draft is a crap shoot his skillset is an all pro skillset. A lot of you guys were against Frank Clark but people can change plus he is only 20 years old. McDowell and Witherspoon would be ideal. Whomever they take i support.


    Nice call!
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Re: Malik McDowell
Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:06 am
  • Collective high five everyone!!! Let's counter the psychotic badjujus 99% of fans are throwing around on our picks!
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Re: Malik McDowell
Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:26 am
  • I like this pick alot. Alan Branch and Tony McDaniels were guys we had been known to bring on board. It's nice to have a young potential guy we can put next to the kid from Alabama. Our locker can put his head on straight.

    I'm guessing we could have got him at 58.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:03 pm
  • Atradees wrote:I like this pick alot. Alan Branch and Tony McDaniels were guys we had been known to bring on board. It's nice to have a young potential guy we can put next to the kid from Alabama. Our locker can put his head on straight.

    I'm guessing we could have got him at 58.


    say it with me,

    Calias Campbell - not a run stuffing type, a defensive weapon that can play every position and rush the passer better then anyone in the ENTIRE DRAFT.

    Would not have been there at 58
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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon May 22, 2017 2:37 pm
  • Despite my earlier contrarian view, after reading Pete's rationale, I'm glad we took him.
    Seriously doubt he would have been available at 58.

    I still think Chris Wormley will be a fine player but not with McDowell's upside.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue May 23, 2017 9:31 am
  • A motivated McDowell is a worthy successor to Michael Bennett.

    I really didn't want McDowell leading up to the draft. I just don't think that unmotivated players suddenly discover it late. But I also concede that we're on the outside of this thing and we can't really judge that aspect of players. About the closest we get is what coaches and team mates will allow to slip publicly.

    All that said, if McDowell didn't have question marks, he's not getting out of the top 10. Pass rushers, particularly players who can do so from the interior, are worth as much as left tackles. So rolling the dice at the top of R2 on a player who can literally make this draft by himself is a worthwhile risk. Particularly on a player who is still only 20 years of age.

    I have more faith in Pete Carroll to extract the best of players with off field question marks than any other coach in this league. So if McDowell is going to achieve his elite potential, he's in the very best place he could have hoped for.

    Should McDowell pan out, Seattle has set itself up for many years, having already drafted Avril's successor in Clark who definitely looks like he'll be able to live to that standard this year. If McDowell comes out of the gate hot, this pass rush is simply downright scary. Should he shine early, this will be the best unit we've ever fielded. And that's a tantalizing thought.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Fri May 26, 2017 9:48 am
  • Attyla the Hawk wrote:A motivated McDowell is a worthy successor to Michael Bennett.

    I really didn't want McDowell leading up to the draft. I just don't think that unmotivated players suddenly discover it late. But I also concede that we're on the outside of this thing and we can't really judge that aspect of players. About the closest we get is what coaches and team mates will allow to slip publicly.

    All that said, if McDowell didn't have question marks, he's not getting out of the top 10. Pass rushers, particularly players who can do so from the interior, are worth as much as left tackles. So rolling the dice at the top of R2 on a player who can literally make this draft by himself is a worthwhile risk. Particularly on a player who is still only 20 years of age.

    I have more faith in Pete Carroll to extract the best of players with off field question marks than any other coach in this league. So if McDowell is going to achieve his elite potential, he's in the very best place he could have hoped for.

    Should McDowell pan out, Seattle has set itself up for many years, having already drafted Avril's successor in Clark who definitely looks like he'll be able to live to that standard this year. If McDowell comes out of the gate hot, this pass rush is simply downright scary. Should he shine early, this will be the best unit we've ever fielded. And that's a tantalizing thought.


    The best part of what we need to see from McDowell is not much. He can flash equal to Clarks rookie season and have a huge impact on the rest of the defenses sack totals. Just a consistent interior pressure with McDowell getting say 6 sacks this year, equals 3-5 + sacks PER DEFENSIVE LINEMEN. I can see Avril Bennett, Clark, all getting 14+ sacks each, and then the other guys like Marsh, Wags, Wright, all getting 6 ish each.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Sat May 27, 2017 6:26 pm
  • I expect more from McDowell only because I was a big supporter of his when most were complaining that he is lazy and not Seahawky. It would not surprise me if he has double digit sacks this guy is special, unique and gifted he won't see much or any double teams our stealth package most call it NASCAR but I refuse to use that. All he needs to focus on is his strength and technique. Again he is special.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Oct 19, 2020 7:22 pm
  • Well, this is interesting.

    Seems everyone liked the pick at the time, for the most part.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:30 am
  • it proves how critically important character is to the realization of physical talent. You also need to have more than buzzard's luck as well. Sadly in this player's case neither were present and he was a epic bust. His failure hurt the team.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:37 am
  • jammerhawk wrote:it proves how critically important character is to the realization of physical talent. You also need to have more than buzzard's luck as well. Sadly in this player's case neither were present and he was a epic bust. His failure hurt the team.


    I'm not sure character was the problem in the sense that it was an injury that killed his career. If you want to say he has bad character because he was riding a ATV at the age of 20 then most in the NFL have bad character.

    I know he feel due to lack of motivation but that's not why he didn't make it in the league.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:02 pm
  • Bad decision making is the reason he didn’t play a down in the NFL.
    Bad decision making almost cost him his life in a drunken scuffle with a cop last year.
    See a pattern?
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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:04 pm
  • i was going to say, 'didn't we already get someone named 'malik' from michigan state?'... then realized the dates on this thread.
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