Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Seahawks sign QB

The Original Seattle Seahawks Fan Forum Community. There simply is NO substitute for Seahawks Talk, News, Rumors, Trades, and Analytics. LANGUAGE: PG-13
Seahawks sign QB
Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:58 am

Re: Seahawks sign QB
Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:40 am
  • At this point Manion isn’t yet signed but that perhaps is just a technicality.

    Wonder which QB will be released when he is actually signed ?
    jammerhawk
    * NET Moderator *
     
    Posts: 7979
    Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:13 pm


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:17 am
  • The Vikings ought to be desperate to temporarily re-sign him since Cousins and Mond have both gone down with covid19. He's a terrible QB but at least in preseason he could mimic whatever the Vikings 2021 system was supposed to be. Mannion would be an awful signing for the Seahawks. He is the antithesis of what the Seahawks have done on offense. He's immobile and he doesn't throw down field. I'm amazed he has lasted 6 seasons in the NFL.
    flv
    NET Rookie
     
    Posts: 194
    Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:04 pm


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:01 pm



  • His value lies in his familiarity with the new system being installed.
    Jville
    * NET Alumni *
     
    Posts: 10521
    Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:49 pm


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:48 pm
  • Jville wrote:


    His value lies in his familiarity with the new system being installed.


    Adding to your thought, his value is knowing and being able to help teach terminology in the class room, in drills and the huddle in practice to the other players and QB's.

    Pretty sure he knows he is not going to see the field on this team.
    chris98251
    .NET Hijacker
     
    Posts: 36739
    Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:52 pm
    Location: Renton Wa.


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:40 pm
  • OK but would that not be Geno's role?

    Or is Geno's role really where the QB competition will occur?
    SantaClaraHawk
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 9800
    Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:17 am


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:22 pm
  • Geno is the backup. This signing is meaningless.
    pittpnthrs
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2492
    Joined: Fri May 19, 2017 11:19 am


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:27 pm
  • pittpnthrs wrote:Geno is the backup. This signing is meaningless.


    Geno has nothing on lock. He certainly doesn't deserve the job without competition.

    It amazes me that you want us to dump a talent like Adams at safety but think Smith is an adequate backup QB going forward.
    Maulbert
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 7662
    Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:44 pm
    Location: In the basement of Reynholm Industries


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Mon Aug 02, 2021 2:56 am
  • Maulbert wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:Geno is the backup. This signing is meaningless.


    Geno has nothing on lock. He certainly doesn't deserve the job without competition.

    It amazes me that you want us to dump a talent like Adams at safety but think Smith is an adequate backup QB going forward.


    Where did I say Smith was adequate? The problem is Mannion is horrible.

    As I said, Smith is the backup. Maybe they could have upgraded the position if they didnt have to come up with so much money to pay a freaking safety.
    pittpnthrs
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2492
    Joined: Fri May 19, 2017 11:19 am


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:59 am
  • I don't like Mannion from a talent standpoint, but I think his signing is interesting on a few levels, in terms of his profile and his experience with Waldron.

    He could very well be brought in to bring others up to speed verbiage wise. Help them grasp the offense. Sort of a coach who also is on the field with the scout team to help them assimilate to new system.
    Maelstrom787
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 5376
    Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:38 pm
    Location: Delaware


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:35 pm
  • All right Mael, but the point remains:

    When have the Hawks had two vets as backup QBs? They hate spending money on that position for one.

    And for two, can anyone direct me to any tape that Geno (or Mannion for that matter) has produced in the past three years?
    SantaClaraHawk
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 9800
    Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:17 am


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:28 pm
  • Maelstrom787 wrote:I don't like Mannion from a talent standpoint, but I think his signing is interesting on a few levels, in terms of his profile and his experience with Waldron.

    He could very well be brought in to bring others up to speed verbiage wise. Help them grasp the offense. Sort of a coach who also is on the field with the scout team to help them assimilate to new system.


    This checks out.
    907Hawk
    NET Starter
     
    Posts: 460
    Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:03 pm
    Location: Fairbanks Alaska


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:02 am
  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:All right Mael, but the point remains:

    When have the Hawks had two vets as backup QBs? They hate spending money on that position for one.

    And for two, can anyone direct me to any tape that Geno (or Mannion for that matter) has produced in the past three years?


    I don't think they'll keep two backups. I'd assume Mannion is likely gone come cutdown to 53, unless Geno has problems grasping the new system. Then Geno is gone and Mannion stays.
    Maelstrom787
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 5376
    Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:38 pm
    Location: Delaware


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:04 am
  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:All right Mael, but the point remains:

    When have the Hawks had two vets as backup QBs? They hate spending money on that position for one.

    And for two, can anyone direct me to any tape that Geno (or Mannion for that matter) has produced in the past three years?


    You don't know what a back up really does do you?

    Stepping into a game as needed is just one of their jobs.
    chris98251
    .NET Hijacker
     
    Posts: 36739
    Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:52 pm
    Location: Renton Wa.


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:31 am
  • chris98251 wrote:
    SantaClaraHawk wrote:All right Mael, but the point remains:

    When have the Hawks had two vets as backup QBs? They hate spending money on that position for one.

    And for two, can anyone direct me to any tape that Geno (or Mannion for that matter) has produced in the past three years?


    You don't know what a back up really does do you?

    Stepping into a game as needed is just one of their jobs.


    Well yes, but you'd expect with Hawks that they'd have one vet guy at backup and then maybe a PS-type QB.

    In any case they signed Smith to about a 1.2M deal, vet minimum for him. What are they offering this other guy?
    SantaClaraHawk
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 9800
    Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:17 am


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:37 pm
  • I dunno Mannion?? <-> Sounds a lot like Manning :baityes: :229031_thewave: :229031_shrug: :curious: :dummy: :dummy: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAA!!!
    scutterhawk
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 7623
    Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:48 pm


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:42 pm
  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:
    SantaClaraHawk wrote:All right Mael, but the point remains:

    When have the Hawks had two vets as backup QBs? They hate spending money on that position for one.

    And for two, can anyone direct me to any tape that Geno (or Mannion for that matter) has produced in the past three years?


    You don't know what a back up really does do you?

    Stepping into a game as needed is just one of their jobs.


    Well yes, but you'd expect with Hawks that they'd have one vet guy at backup and then maybe a PS-type QB.

    In any case they signed Smith to about a 1.2M deal, vet minimum for him. What are they offering this other guy?


    They carry 4 or 5 in pre season for drills, they added this guy as a chance but also as a guy that knows the offense, can be in film study and point out calls based on defenses and audibles available given personnel and set on the field, can work with Geno, Wilson, and Alex to drill on play calls and verbiage, lots of stuff to get the team and the QB's staying ahead of the curve.
    chris98251
    .NET Hijacker
     
    Posts: 36739
    Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:52 pm
    Location: Renton Wa.


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:29 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:
    SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:
    SantaClaraHawk wrote:All right Mael, but the point remains:

    When have the Hawks had two vets as backup QBs? They hate spending money on that position for one.

    And for two, can anyone direct me to any tape that Geno (or Mannion for that matter) has produced in the past three years?


    You don't know what a back up really does do you?

    Stepping into a game as needed is just one of their jobs.


    Well yes, but you'd expect with Hawks that they'd have one vet guy at backup and then maybe a PS-type QB.

    In any case they signed Smith to about a 1.2M deal, vet minimum for him. What are they offering this other guy?


    They carry 4 or 5 in pre season for drills, they added this guy as a chance but also as a guy that knows the offense, can be in film study and point out calls based on defenses and audibles available given personnel and set on the field, can work with Geno, Wilson, and Alex to drill on play calls and verbiage, lots of stuff to get the team and the QB's staying ahead of the curve.
    rr

    Right man, but at the same time you gotta think there's an expectation of cheddar on Mannion's part. I mean, especially now with what's going on with the Vikes' quarterback room. It seems like this guy would have options elsewhere. And if the option here is to get someone who's gonna be like a coach-teacher of Waldron's offense, why wouldn't we put that guy in the No. 2 position to execute when/if Russ gets hurt, whether that be for a snap or longer?

    Has Geno shown anything? I'm seriously asking. Have they ever trotted him out in garbage time?
    SantaClaraHawk
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 9800
    Joined: Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:17 am


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:27 pm
  • I hate to say it but I have no confidence Smith or Mannion can win a game if Wilson gets nicked.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
    AKNFidel
    NET Rookie
     
    Posts: 142
    Joined: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:49 am
    Location: North Pole, Alaska


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:15 pm
  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:
    SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:
    You don't know what a back up really does do you?

    Stepping into a game as needed is just one of their jobs.


    Well yes, but you'd expect with Hawks that they'd have one vet guy at backup and then maybe a PS-type QB.

    In any case they signed Smith to about a 1.2M deal, vet minimum for him. What are they offering this other guy?


    They carry 4 or 5 in pre season for drills, they added this guy as a chance but also as a guy that knows the offense, can be in film study and point out calls based on defenses and audibles available given personnel and set on the field, can work with Geno, Wilson, and Alex to drill on play calls and verbiage, lots of stuff to get the team and the QB's staying ahead of the curve.
    rr

    Right man, but at the same time you gotta think there's an expectation of cheddar on Mannion's part. I mean, especially now with what's going on with the Vikes' quarterback room. It seems like this guy would have options elsewhere. And if the option here is to get someone who's gonna be like a coach-teacher of Waldron's offense, why wouldn't we put that guy in the No. 2 position to execute when/if Russ gets hurt, whether that be for a snap or longer?

    Has Geno shown anything? I'm seriously asking. Have they ever trotted him out in garbage time?


    The guy can throw, but not only is this guy a Statue in the Pocket, he has Anchors around his ankles, Geno is much more Mobile as is McGough, with our system rolling out and Read Option is part of the offense, If Sean is there we better have a top 5 pass blocking line.
    chris98251
    .NET Hijacker
     
    Posts: 36739
    Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:52 pm
    Location: Renton Wa.


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:25 pm
  • re:Mannion

    1) Mannion was on the Rams in '17 and '18 when the offensive system was built around Gurley.
    2) The Rams offense in '19 and '20, (when Mannion wasn't there), was built around shorter passing and more 12 personnel because of blocking problems and other issues.
    3) The verbiage has almost certainly changed so whatever Mannion knew then will be out of date.
    4) Mannion may not even remember what the system was in '17 and '18.
    5) Fans don't know whether the Rams system was Waldron's or McVay's.
    6) If it was Waldron's system he's going to have to alter it anyway since McVay already knows it and it doesn't fit what the Seahawks offensive players do best.
    7) Bortles is/was a better QB, he's vastly more experienced, he's available, and his knowledge would be more relevant since he was with Waldron in '19 and '20.

    If Mannion helps then good luck to you guys. It's hard to see what help an immobile check-down QB can provide.
    flv
    NET Rookie
     
    Posts: 194
    Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:04 pm


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:10 am
  • flv wrote:re:Mannion

    1) Mannion was on the Rams in '17 and '18 when the offensive system was built around Gurley.
    2) The Rams offense in '19 and '20, (when Mannion wasn't there), was built around shorter passing and more 12 personnel because of blocking problems and other issues.
    3) The verbiage has almost certainly changed so whatever Mannion knew then will be out of date.
    4) Mannion may not even remember what the system was in '17 and '18.
    5) Fans don't know whether the Rams system was Waldron's or McVay's.
    6) If it was Waldron's system he's going to have to alter it anyway since McVay already knows it and it doesn't fit what the Seahawks offensive players do best.
    7) Bortles is/was a better QB, he's vastly more experienced, he's available, and his knowledge would be more relevant since he was with Waldron in '19 and '20.

    If Mannion helps then good luck to you guys. It's hard to see what help an immobile check-down QB can provide.


    Already stated he remembers and knows the system and has been a big help out of the gate.

    So try again...................

    It's McVays certainly, on this team it's Waldrons with adaptive aspects of Waldron and Russell's skill set, will be very much the same in many aspects.
    chris98251
    .NET Hijacker
     
    Posts: 36739
    Joined: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:52 pm
    Location: Renton Wa.


Re: Seahawks sign QB
Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:32 pm
  • Jville
    * NET Alumni *
     
    Posts: 10521
    Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:49 pm




It is currently Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:36 pm

Please REGISTER to become a member

Return to [ SEATTLE SEAHAWKS FOOTBALL ]




Information
  • Who is online