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New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:59 am
  • What does everyone think, and what are the implications for the Seahawks this year? Obviously they added another wild card team and took away one of the byes. I'm firmly against it. I liked things the way they were and the opportunity for two byes. Obviously its just a money making thing for the league as is adding an extra game next year. It could really hurt us this year because we could easily end up with the second seed but miss a bye.

    Also, I just don't think you need 7 teams per conference. 6 was a good number
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:57 am
  • Welshers wrote:What does everyone think, and what are the implications for the Seahawks this year? Obviously they added another wild card team and took away one of the byes. I'm firmly against it. I liked things the way they were and the opportunity for two byes. Obviously its just a money making thing for the league as is adding an extra game next year. It could really hurt us this year because we could easily end up with the second seed but miss a bye.

    Also, I just don't think you need 7 teams per conference. 6 was a good number


    Nothing to be thankful about at all?

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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:15 am
  • I'll agree that I'm not a big fan of the change. It's what we have to deal with, though. I guess it's better than an 18 game season. At least it's not as bad as NBA, where over half the league seems to make the playoffs.

    :229031_shrug:
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:33 am
  • Welshers wrote:What does everyone think, and what are the implications for the Seahawks this year? Obviously they added another wild card team and took away one of the byes. I'm firmly against it. I liked things the way they were and the opportunity for two byes. Obviously its just a money making thing for the league as is adding an extra game next year. It could really hurt us this year because we could easily end up with the second seed but miss a bye.

    Also, I just don't think you need 7 teams per conference. 6 was a good number


    I don't like it for the reasons you stated above, plus the obvious factor of covid.

    The scheduling is here: https://fbschedules.com/nfl-playoff-schedule/

    Adding two more teams this year just tempts fate that much more. The league put everyone in intensive protocol and there was still an outbreak among the Ravens that derailed the T-giving game plus the first rescheduling. There will be no room for rescheduling during the WC weekend, and there is nothing in the CBA saying that the league or clubs can force players to live in a hotel bubble for weeks.

    Everyone knows Covid can take 14 days to incubate, meaning players will be mingling together after having had Christmas gatherings that will eclipse Thanksgiving.

    Expanding the playoffs was a stupid idea.
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:54 am
  • sutz wrote:I'll agree that I'm not a big fan of the change. It's what we have to deal with, though. I guess it's better than an 18 game season. At least it's not as bad as NBA, where over half the league seems to make the playoffs.

    :229031_shrug:


    The NHL is the worst and an example of the problems with a bigger playoff pool. Teams have little incentive to go all out in the regular season. Instead they do enough to get into the playoffs then coast through the rest of their regular season schedule. We already see enough of that in December in the NFL.
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:08 am
  • I like the reduction of byes to one. Undecided on the extra wild card.
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:26 am
  • Personally I hate it, there’s no way it’s safer to have more games. It’s just a money grab by the NFL imo.
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:11 pm
  • This was a scheme pushed heavily by who else?
    Jerry Jones for more profit and to get his crap
    team into the playoffs.
    I dislike change for reasons along the lines of
    "everyone should get a trophy" No No No!
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:38 pm
  • IndyHawk wrote:This was a scheme pushed heavily by who else?
    Jerry Jones for more profit and to get his crap
    team into the playoffs.
    I dislike change for reasons along the lines of
    "everyone should get a trophy" No No No!

    Yep.
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:46 pm
  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    Welshers wrote:What does everyone think, and what are the implications for the Seahawks this year? Obviously they added another wild card team and took away one of the byes. I'm firmly against it. I liked things the way they were and the opportunity for two byes. Obviously its just a money making thing for the league as is adding an extra game next year. It could really hurt us this year because we could easily end up with the second seed but miss a bye.

    Also, I just don't think you need 7 teams per conference. 6 was a good number


    I don't like it for the reasons you stated above, plus the obvious factor of covid.

    The scheduling is here: https://fbschedules.com/nfl-playoff-schedule/

    Adding two more teams this year just tempts fate that much more. The league put everyone in intensive protocol and there was still an outbreak among the Ravens that derailed the T-giving game plus the first rescheduling. There will be no room for rescheduling during the WC weekend, and there is nothing in the CBA saying that the league or clubs can force players to live in a hotel bubble for weeks.

    Everyone knows Covid can take 14 days to incubate, meaning players will be mingling together after having had Christmas gatherings that will eclipse Thanksgiving.

    Expanding the playoffs was a stupid idea.

    Great points. It endangers players in multiple ways. Not just from COVID but for more changes for injuries
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:54 pm
  • Welshers wrote:Great points. It endangers players in multiple ways. Not just from COVID but for more changes for injuries

    Well, let's just drop down to one game per year and no playoffs. Need to protect the players as best we can at any cost. :roll:
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:24 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    Welshers wrote:Great points. It endangers players in multiple ways. Not just from COVID but for more changes for injuries

    Well, let's just drop down to one game per year and no playoffs. Need to protect the players as best we can at any cost. :roll:

    I guess I'm just old school in that I'm adverse to change. I thought 16 games and 6 playoff teams with two byes was a perfect number. There are LOTS of injuries in the NFL the way things are. It's one of the very few things I dislike about the league. Just look at how we've been hurt by injuries this year. Look at young guys like Dak and Burrow getting heart-breaking season enders. The NFL has a injury problem and I don't think adding games on to the season is going to help.

    It also cracks me up because the League and Goodell have been all about "player safety" recently, with all the new rules and advertising campaigns. But then they go ahead and add another game when there's money to be made. A bit hypocritical.

    I totally get where you are coming from though. Injuries are part of the game. And I get the argument for people who are in favor of another playoff team and another week. Who can complain about more football! I dislike the changes personally though
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:36 pm
  • It's automatically hypocritical to try and improve player safety while adding another game to the schedule? It's not a coin toss where it can only be one side OR the other, dude.
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:31 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:It's automatically hypocritical to try and improve player safety while adding another game to the schedule? It's not a coin toss where it can only be one side OR the other, dude.

    Well it seems to figure that it's already a long and grueling season and people are more likely to get tired by the end of it. There's a reason the players association REALLY didn't want to add another game. They ended up getting financially compensated very well for it so it was worth it for them. But yeah I think it is a bit hypocritical. Another game = more injuries. Period. Again I see where you are coming from as well though. I guess I'm just old school and of the mentality "if it ain't broke don't fix it"
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:48 pm
  • Welshers wrote:I guess I'm just old school and of the mentality "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

    I'm a Senior IT Consultant, I look at everything as "there's always room for improvement" and tweaking things is part of that process no matter what, lol.
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:31 pm
  • Welshers wrote:
    SantaClaraHawk wrote:
    Welshers wrote:What does everyone think, and what are the implications for the Seahawks this year? Obviously they added another wild card team and took away one of the byes. I'm firmly against it. I liked things the way they were and the opportunity for two byes. Obviously its just a money making thing for the league as is adding an extra game next year. It could really hurt us this year because we could easily end up with the second seed but miss a bye.

    Also, I just don't think you need 7 teams per conference. 6 was a good number


    I don't like it for the reasons you stated above, plus the obvious factor of covid.

    The scheduling is here: https://fbschedules.com/nfl-playoff-schedule/

    Adding two more teams this year just tempts fate that much more. The league put everyone in intensive protocol and there was still an outbreak among the Ravens that derailed the T-giving game plus the first rescheduling. There will be no room for rescheduling during the WC weekend, and there is nothing in the CBA saying that the league or clubs can force players to live in a hotel bubble for weeks.

    Everyone knows Covid can take 14 days to incubate, meaning players will be mingling together after having had Christmas gatherings that will eclipse Thanksgiving.

    Expanding the playoffs was a stupid idea.

    Great points. It endangers players in multiple ways. Not just from COVID but for more changes for injuries



    More injury risk? Yeah I guess so. The old "eliminate preseason games" line. I can see that.

    Covid "risk"????? Cmon.....What are we up to now, like 100 players/coaches/random staff who have tested positive in the NFL? 150? More? I've never heard any follow up on their conditions......wonder why??? :roll:

    I think you've seen what you need to see in regards to the risk. Stick to the injury concern 8)
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:15 pm
  • Player safety, sure...

    Maybe the extra Billion brought in from TV contracts and Ad revenue and merchandise can offset the players pain and suffering since they get a portion as far the Cap allotment.
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:26 pm
  • Northhawk wrote:
    sutz wrote:I'll agree that I'm not a big fan of the change. It's what we have to deal with, though. I guess it's better than an 18 game season. At least it's not as bad as NBA, where over half the league seems to make the playoffs.

    :229031_shrug:


    The NHL is the worst and an example of the problems with a bigger playoff pool. Teams have little incentive to go all out in the regular season. Instead they do enough to get into the playoffs then coast through the rest of their regular season schedule. We already see enough of that in December in the NFL.


    The NHL has 32 teams, with 16 making the playoffs. The NBA has 30 teams, with 16 making the playoffs. So the NBA is worse with more teams making it, than missing it.
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:29 pm
  • On the flip side it does give us another game to watch...

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Re: New Playoff Format
Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:01 pm
  • Hell, I like the idea of a 16 team format! 4 division winners, 4 wildcard teams. Makes it more interesting and fun to me.
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Re: New Playoff Format
Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:11 pm
  • Aros wrote:Hell, I like the idea of a 16 team format! 4 division winners, 4 wildcard teams. Makes it more interesting and fun to me.


    Agreed, especially when some of the wildcard teams are better than some (cough--NFC East--cough) division winners.

    But why shouldn't playoff seeding be based on season record? Sure, winning one's division assures a playoff spot, but more losses than a wildcard team from a different division should force you to travel. Shouldn't the best teams get homefield advantage?
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Re: New Playoff Format
Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:10 am
  • I've been in the 14 is plenty camp all year. But, I certainly could see extra playoff games. And the league needs to try to make up for lost revenue. Shoot, IF the league makes it thru the end w/out cancelling out games or the season? Yes please......
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