John63 wrote:2011 we had the LOb and we had Lynch and were 7-9 that how
2011 was the 2nd year of Pete Carroll. Carroll had one year to see what pieces he had before cleaning house and starting the rebuild in year 2. Prior to that the team had gone 4-12 and 5-11, so there was a lot to do.
We had just released Hasselbeck. Richard Sherman and Byron Maxwell had only just been drafted and were working their way into the lineup. The pieces of the LoB had been assembled, but they weren't a thing yet and we didn't have the pressure up front (DEs were Clemons and Bryant). Wagner wasn't drafted until 2012.
Your post is intellectually dishonest.
No my post is a fact, we had the LOB and Lynch and were 7-9 that is what I said. Noen of that has anythign to do with Wagner who i not the LOB, and DEs who are also not LOB
FYIi prior to Seattle PC only double digit winning season was his first year in NE so the whole 2nd year thing means little
Add to that PC record in NE starting year 1 adn movinng to year 3
hmm steadily getting worse. His record in Seattle his first 2 yearr 7-9, year 3 when he got Wilson 11-5. LOB and run game has come and gone since then, and yet we avg 10+ wins a season. The one common denominator Wilson.
Let me help you another way PC without Wilson NFl .489 winning pct. With Wilson .680
With LOB, and Lynch .437, with LOB, Lynch and Wilson .750, Wilson and Lynch no LOB .625, Wilson no LOB or Lynch .656
So of course we are best with all 3. but without Wilson but with the LOB and Lynch wqe were .437. However, without LOB and without Lynch we were .656. So basically to make it simple we are way better With Wilson even without LOB and Lynch and trading him would be stupid.
No since you need to spelled out let me spell it out.
in 2011 we had a top 10 defense and had the 21st ranked run game
So great defense, bad run game
we were 7-9
Since then we have never had a losing record despite having defense ranked as bad as 24 and run games ranked as bad as 25th in the same season.
2017 we were 9-7 the worst record with Wilson, but in 2017 our leading rusher was Wilson, and we were ranked 12th in rushing our defense was ranked 22nd. Our QB made up 98% of our total TDs, and 82% of our total yards.
So there you go no LOB, no Lynch. Wilson was the team that year and still a better record than PC has had as a HC in Settle despite a worse defense and run game.