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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:02 pm
  • sutz wrote:
    Shanegotyou11 wrote:Mariners down 5 to 0 vs best pitching staff and won 6 to 5 in game 1 of a thriller. 1 back now.


    Game 2 soon

    Yeah, after a shaky start Marco hung in there like a trooper and ended up with the win. That's what good-to-great pitchers do.



    Yea agree.

    The mariners players smell how close they are.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:45 pm
  • No one saying anything about the Griffey esque catch Lewis had? While batting just as well.

    This season may not turn out well, but our future is bright
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:59 pm
  • Game 2 kind of dampened the mood.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:15 am
  • Not a fan of going with a bullpen start in order to keep the starters on their normal 6 day rotation.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:57 am
  • balakoth wrote:No one saying anything about the Griffey esque catch Lewis had? While batting just as well.

    This season may not turn out well, but our future is bright

    That was an outstanding catch. He is proving to be more athletic than I thought he was.
    They will have 4 legit stud outfielders when all the young guys are all up eventually.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:34 am
  • Future is bright. It stinks we are falling apart down the stretch since houston is as well. We probably need to sweep houston for a shot now.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:58 am
  • M's playoffs? They don't even have a winning record. I believe if a team doesn't have a winning record, then they should automatically be disqualified for the postseason. This goes for any sport.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:08 am
  • Sheffield again.. nice outing.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:27 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:Sheffield again.. nice outing.

    Yeah, the starting pitching has been much better than I did expected.
    If they can go out and land another good starter and not d*ck around and with the arbitration clocks of the Kelenic’s, Gilbert’s, and Kirby’s of the world they might be good and ready to contend NEXT a year. If they are overly concerned with starting the arb clocks it will be pushed back at least a year.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:00 pm
  • Sports Hernia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Sheffield again.. nice outing.

    Yeah, the starting pitching has been much better than I did expected.
    If they can go out and land another good starter and not d*ck around and with the arbitration clocks of the Kelenic’s, Gilbert’s, and Kirby’s of the world they might be good and ready to contend NEXT a year. If they are overly concerned with starting the arb clocks it will be pushed back at least a year.


    Interested to see their approach. They said they wanted to trade for guys with a year left on their contracts to avoid free afent bidding wars. Wonder who.is on that list this winter?

    I think that dictates their intentions
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:10 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Sheffield again.. nice outing.

    JS is impressing me..If Dunn can knock walks down
    we have 2 Jerry wins with more to be determined.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:21 pm
  • OTOH, Kikuchi continues to disappoint. I really had hope for him. :229031_shrug:
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:47 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Sheffield again.. nice outing.

    Yeah, the starting pitching has been much better than I did expected.
    If they can go out and land another good starter and not d*ck around and with the arbitration clocks of the Kelenic’s, Gilbert’s, and Kirby’s of the world they might be good and ready to contend NEXT a year. If they are overly concerned with starting the arb clocks it will be pushed back at least a year.


    Interested to see their approach. They said they wanted to trade for guys with a year left on their contracts to avoid free afent bidding wars. Wonder who.is on that list this winter?

    I think that dictates their intentions

    They need to stop with the cheap approach. I’m not saying throw money blindly at FA’s but being worried about that should be way down on the list of priorities.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:44 pm
  • Sports Hernia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Sheffield again.. nice outing.

    Yeah, the starting pitching has been much better than I did expected.
    If they can go out and land another good starter and not d*ck around and with the arbitration clocks of the Kelenic’s, Gilbert’s, and Kirby’s of the world they might be good and ready to contend NEXT a year. If they are overly concerned with starting the arb clocks it will be pushed back at least a year.


    Interested to see their approach. They said they wanted to trade for guys with a year left on their contracts to avoid free afent bidding wars. Wonder who.is on that list this winter?

    I think that dictates their intentions

    They need to stop with the cheap approach. I’m not saying throw money blindly at FA’s but being worried about that should be way down on the list of priorities.

    But they are on a schedule. On that schedule, this year is not the year to invest in high priced FAs on rental deals to make a last minute desperation run for the playoffs. Perhaps next summer, assuming the league is on a more normal schedule, we'll evaluate our situation and perhaps looking at buying a couple of guys if we really are in a playoff run.

    All of the complaining about the arb clocks and such are talking out their nether regions. Yes, it makes sense to not waste any control over the players contracts going forward. Why waste a year or two of future player control to play them in 15 essentially meaningless games now? It doesn't make sense, not from a financial sense, but also not from a player development sense either.

    Hell, I'm of an age that waiting another year or two might mean I won't be here to see it. But it has to be done right, or it won't happen at all.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:49 pm
  • sutz wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:Yeah, the starting pitching has been much better than I did expected.
    If they can go out and land another good starter and not d*ck around and with the arbitration clocks of the Kelenic’s, Gilbert’s, and Kirby’s of the world they might be good and ready to contend NEXT a year. If they are overly concerned with starting the arb clocks it will be pushed back at least a year.


    Interested to see their approach. They said they wanted to trade for guys with a year left on their contracts to avoid free afent bidding wars. Wonder who.is on that list this winter?

    I think that dictates their intentions

    They need to stop with the cheap approach. I’m not saying throw money blindly at FA’s but being worried about that should be way down on the list of priorities.

    But they are on a schedule. On that schedule, this year is not the year to invest in high priced FAs on rental deals to make a last minute desperation run for the playoffs. Perhaps next summer, assuming the league is on a more normal schedule, we'll evaluate our situation and perhaps looking at buying a couple of guys if we really are in a playoff run.

    All of the complaining about the arb clocks and such are talking out their nether regions. Yes, it makes sense to not waste any control over the players contracts going forward. Why waste a year or two of future player control to play them in 15 essentially meaningless games now? It doesn't make sense, not from a financial sense, but also not from a player development sense either.

    Hell, I'm of an age that waiting another year or two might mean I won't be here to see it. But it has to be done right, or it won't happen at all.

    No, I understand about not investing in FA THIS year, that would be dumb.

    I was talking about Kelenic being up at the beginning of the year, now won’t do any good.

    Under a normal year Kelenic would have been brought up in September like they did with Lewis last year.
    One of my reasons for wanting Kelenic up was he would have consistent AB’s against live quality pitching everyday vs Hitting 65-70 Mph BP in Tacoma. Since there is no minor league season it could be argued not bringing him up has hindered his devolpment.

    The Arb clock excuse thing is stupid IMHO as player rarely gets to Arbitration anyhow as the rookie contract is usually extended before the end of the contract. If Kelenic is as good as he’s going to be, he’s not sniffing arbitration. The Mariners won’t lose any years of “club control” as his rookie contract will be extended eventually. It’s only going to cost them money eventually.
    Quality talent is going to cost them money. That’s the downfall of having great players, you have to pay them.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:23 pm
  • I got real excited when I thought Seager might be traded.

    Kyle Lewis has been my great hope. The next great Mariner. His string of injuries in the minors had been so depressing but WOW. He's a stud.

    I can't believe how well our rotation has held up. It's too bad we will miss the playoffs. But we at least keep the streak alive and actually have something to look forward to in 2021.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:52 am
  • Im super excited for mariners baseball in 2021. I think if we get a starter and bullpen help, we break the streak.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:14 pm
  • Shanegotyou11 wrote:Im super excited for mariners baseball in 2021. I think if we get a starter and bullpen help, we break the streak.

    Matters how much they d*ck around with the arb clock with Kelenic and others.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:45 pm
  • I'm gonna take a shot every time you mention "are clock"
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:01 pm
  • Well, we managed to send the A's off into the playoffs not looking so hot.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:09 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:I'm gonna take a shot every time you mention "are clock"

    If you mean “arb clock”, you better stock up on booze now. 8)
    I will b!@ch about it if Kelenic isn’t on the opening day roster next year.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:16 pm
  • Sports Hernia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:I'm gonna take a shot every time you mention "are clock"

    If you mean “arb clock”, you better stock up on booze now. 8)
    I will b!@ch about it if Kelenic isn’t on the opening day roster next year.

    I think he's ok to be on next year..This year was the issue.
    Hopefully they just sign him to a long term deal and Lewis too.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:45 pm
  • IndyHawk wrote:
    Sports Hernia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:I'm gonna take a shot every time you mention "are clock"

    If you mean “arb clock”, you better stock up on booze now. 8)
    I will b!@ch about it if Kelenic isn’t on the opening day roster next year.

    I think he's ok to be on next year..This year was the issue.
    Hopefully they just sign him to a long term deal and Lewis too.

    That would be the smart move.
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:40 pm
  • Just read that if the M's wait 3 weeks before calling up Kelenic it extends
    his clock to after the 2027 season.
    I know this is tiring but 3 weeks is all..I know it pisses off the player(s)
    and agent ect but hopefully it doesn't need to happen.
    I can't remember how it was in Jr or Aroids day but that is what
    they need to go back to maybe?
    All great ballplayers usually started at 18-21 and didn't need so much
    minor(s) time but yeah it's a certain talent level but today's game to me
    is easier but yet then again nobody has hit .400 in how many decades?
    Well season is over..Do we know where we are in pick order?
    That's for another thread :irishdrinkers:
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Re: Seattle Mariners 2020 season
Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:46 am
  • IndyHawk wrote:Just read that if the M's wait 3 weeks before calling up Kelenic it extends
    his clock to after the 2027 season.
    I know this is tiring but 3 weeks is all..I know it pisses off the player(s)
    and agent ect but hopefully it doesn't need to happen.
    I can't remember how it was in Jr or Aroids day but that is what
    they need to go back to maybe?
    All great ballplayers usually started at 18-21 and didn't need so much
    minor(s) time but yeah it's a certain talent level but today's game to me
    is easier but yet then again nobody has hit .400 in how many decades?
    Well season is over..Do we know where we are in pick order?
    That's for another thread :irishdrinkers:

    It all comes down to money. If a player is great or even good they will never see arbitration as the original contract will be extended long before it gets to that point.

    A-rod didn’t start his rookie season in April. He may have been a September call up, I don’t remember off the top of my head.

    Griffey DID start his rookie year with Seattle on opening day in Oakland that year.
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