Ajayi vs gurley who better with our oline ?

[McGruff]

Just got done with a couple of Ajayi's game tapes.

Positives . . .
. . . Explosive when he has a hole
. . . Good vision
. . . Excellent receiver out of the backfield

Negatives
. . . Might be the worst pass blocker I've seen this season
. . . Spends too much time spinning, jumping, etc. exposing his legs and ankles for easy tackles
. . . Likes to kick outside too much instead of taking the hard 3 yards, often resulting in losses.

I don't see him fitting here at all. He's a lesser version of Michael. He doesn't pop on film, doesn't tilt the field, doesn't wow. The Seahawks like explosion at that position . . . either raw power or elite speed and burst, and I don't see either of those on film from Ajayi. He's just a guy.

 

[Chawks1]

If Gurley is so much better than Ajayi, then what does that make his backup Chubb? He had nearly the same ypc average as Gurley after Gurley went out....Chubb played 2/3 the season and had 1500 yds.....Gurley definetly looks great but don't discount the line he runs behind.....Ajay's backup avg 3.8 ypc and Ajayi avg 5.3 ypc.

Tough to compare the 2 players. They play in different systems behind different OL. Question really is, which one can run the read option and run behind a zone blocking scheme???

 

[hawksurething]

If Gurley is so much better than Ajayi, then what does that make his backup Chubb? He had nearly the same ypc average as Gurley after Gurley went out....Chubb played 2/3 the season and had 1500 yds.....Gurley definetly looks great but don't discount the line he runs behind.....Ajay's backup avg 3.8 ypc and Ajayi avg 5.3 ypc.

Tough to compare the 2 players. They play in different systems behind different OL. Question really is, which one can run the read option and run behind a zone blocking scheme???

Very great point !!!

 

[Hawkfan77]

If Gurley is so much better than Ajayi, then what does that make his backup Chubb? He had nearly the same ypc average as Gurley after Gurley went out....Chubb played 2/3 the season and had 1500 yds.....Gurley definetly looks great but don't discount the line he runs behind.....Ajay's backup avg 3.8 ypc and Ajayi avg 5.3 ypc.

Tough to compare the 2 players. They play in different systems behind different OL. Question really is, which one can run the read option and run behind a zone blocking scheme???

Well Chubb was more highly regarded and higher ranked than Gurley out of college so...

 

[McGruff]

If Gurley is so much better than Ajayi, then what does that make his backup Chubb?

Just practicing basic transitive property, but I'd say that makes Chubb better than Ajayi.

 

[hawksurething]

If Gurley is so much better than Ajayi, then what does that make his backup Chubb?

Just practicing basic transitive property, but I'd say that makes Chubb better than Ajayi.

Actually Chubb is better behind a great line yes...but the best RB at breaking tackles behind the line is Ajayi hands down ! Ajayi is the best RB for the hawks line.

Also Michael can't break tackles behind the line alot which is one of the reasons he can get on the field behind our line.

 

[McGruff]

If Gurley is so much better than Ajayi, then what does that make his backup Chubb?

Just practicing basic transitive property, but I'd say that makes Chubb better than Ajayi.

Actually Chubb is better behind a great line yes...but the best RB at breaking tackles behind the line is Ajayi hands down ! Ajayi is the best RB for the hawks line.

Also Michael can't break tackles behind the line alot which is one of the reasons he can get on the field behind our line.

Wrong. The reason Michael isn't on the field is becausee 1) he isn't a good blocker, and 2) he isn't decisive running the ball.

Ironically, those are two weaknesses I see in Ajayi. He is a horrendous pass blocker, and he does too much bouncing outside and cutting back.

And honestly, the answer to the original question is probably none of the above. I'd take TJ Yeldon or Josh Robinson behind the line over either Gurley or Ajayi.

 

[hawksurething]

If Gurley is so much better than Ajayi, then what does that make his backup Chubb?

Just practicing basic transitive property, but I'd say that makes Chubb better than Ajayi.

Actually Chubb is better behind a great line yes...but the best RB at breaking tackles behind the line is Ajayi hands down ! Ajayi is the best RB for the hawks line.

Also Michael can't break tackles behind the line alot which is one of the reasons he can get on the field behind our line.

Wrong. The reason Michael isn't on the field is becausee 1) he isn't a good blocker, and 2) he isn't decisive running the ball.

Ironically, those are two weaknesses I see in Ajayi. He is a horrendous pass blocker, and he does too much bouncing outside and cutting back.

And honestly, the answer to the original question is probably none of the above. I'd take TJ Yeldon or Josh Robinson behind the line over either Gurley or Ajayi.

OK Ajayi is a horrrible blocker true. But he better bounce it outside & cut back like Barry Sanders behind a weak oline !!!

Yeldon And the rest of the RB get Runs that's blocked for them. They have huge holes to run thru,while AJayi is breaking & shaking tackles in the back field like Lynch. He can learn to pass block in time.

I say no to RBs who can't succeed behind a weak oline.

 

[McGruff]

You don't understand our offense at all. Cable doesn't want creativity. He wants guys who stick their foot in the ground, lower their shoulders, and run north south.

 

[chris98251]

If a Backs heart isn't into it you can't teach him to block, Alexander was a whiffmaster and they kept trying to teach him and it didn't work, Michael is the same way I think. Forsett for his size was a great blocker, Lynch steps up as well. Why they succeed . Look at the types of players these guys are and you can tell who doesn't mind contact and who does, that tells you something about how they will block.

 

[hawksurething]

You don't understand our offense at all. Cable doesn't want creativity. He wants guys who stick their foot in the ground, lower their shoulders, and run north south.

Ajayi is just that,plus he can elude penertration.

I think hawks will pick him. we will see. But im always correct about RBs too.

 

[Recon_Hawk]

"The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool."

 

[Year of The Hawk]

Who is better a catching the ball. IMHO blocking can be taught. Also which one would benifit and grow more learning behind lynch?

 

[chris98251]

You don't understand our offense at all. Cable doesn't want creativity. He wants guys who stick their foot in the ground, lower their shoulders, and run north south.

Ajayi is just that,plus he can elude penertration.

I think hawks will pick him. we will see. But im always correct about RBs too.

Always right about WR's and Backs, so which team do you work for as a scout or personnel director? Or are you on ESPN's staff feeding the information to the likes of Mel Kiper?

 

[hawksurething]

You don't understand our offense at all. Cable doesn't want creativity. He wants guys who stick their foot in the ground, lower their shoulders, and run north south.

Ajayi is just that,plus he can elude penertration.

I think hawks will pick him. we will see. But im always correct about RBs too.

Always right about WR's and Backs, so which team do you work for as a scout or personnel director? Or are you on ESPN's staff feeding the information to the likes of Mel Kiper?

If I could ever work for the hawk's FO this team would be in the Superbowl and win every year by 14 points. No offense can keep up with my players.

 

[mistaowen]

You don't understand our offense at all. Cable doesn't want creativity. He wants guys who stick their foot in the ground, lower their shoulders, and run north south.

Ajayi is just that,plus he can elude penertration.

I think hawks will pick him. we will see. But im always correct about RBs too.

Always right about WR's and Backs, so which team do you work for as a scout or personnel director? Or are you on ESPN's staff feeding the information to the likes of Mel Kiper?

If I could ever work for the hawk's FO this team would be in the Superbowl and win every year by 14 points. No offense can keep up with my players.

Which do you think you are more of a master of; WR or RB? Also, are you a linebacker genius?

How many digits of pie can you recite from memory?

 

[Hawkfan77]

You don't understand our offense at all. Cable doesn't want creativity. He wants guys who stick their foot in the ground, lower their shoulders, and run north south.

Ajayi is just that,plus he can elude penertration.

I think hawks will pick him. we will see. But im always correct about RBs too.

Always right about WR's and Backs, so which team do you work for as a scout or personnel director? Or are you on ESPN's staff feeding the information to the likes of Mel Kiper?

If I could ever work for the hawk's FO this team would be in the Superbowl and win every year by 14 points. No offense can keep up with my players.

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