Bengals vs Bills

[pmedic920]

Espn saying he’s in critical condition

Thanks ESPN

it doesn’t take any kind of expert to understand that cardiac arrest and ventilator = “critical condition”

 

[QuahHawk]

If he passes, I think the totally cancel this game.

If he makes it, could they play tomorrow? Otherwise Bengals Win 7-3.

 

[Hockey Guy]

Thanks ESPN

it doesn’t take any kind of expert to understand that cardiac arrest and ventilator = “critical condition”

Pretty sure the message being given is that he is not deceased.

 

[QuahHawk]

Pulse but not breathing. Wouldn't this indicate brain issues?

 

[DomeHawk]

You could see that the players were traumatized right away. Frightening to see him receiving CPR. No way they were playing after that.

 

[DarkVictory23]

Yea I’m not a fan of that take.

I understand the concern and frustration but I think they moved pretty quickly.

It appears to me that they allowed the coaches to either make the call, or at minimum have input. This stuff takes a bit of time and I think they did an exceptional job. This is a rare situation that I’m sure they don’t have a standard operating procedure for.

I tend to agree, as much as I am loathe to give the NFL front office (especially Goodell) any credit, this is a legitimate life and death emergency that just hit a very large operation. This kind of thing never goes smoothly when it's just grandpa having a heart attack at the dinner table, forget a national broadcast and a stadium full of people.

 

[HawkRiderFan]

I won't link the tweet on principal. Let's just say Sherm was right. Skip Bayliss is a failure at life

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

If he passes, I think the totally cancel this game.

If he makes it, could they play tomorrow? Otherwise Bengals Win 7-3.

Given the seeding implications, I think they’ll play Tuesday or Wednesday.

I don’t think in any universe that nfl will just award Bengals that game.

 

[UK_Seahawk]

Thanks ESPN

it doesn’t take any kind of expert to understand that cardiac arrest and ventilator = “critical condition”

There are reports on Twitter that he was intubated. One thing i don't understand and maybe you could help, why did the ambulance wait for the mother? Not to sound callous but in these situations minutes can count. In the UK I feel sure the ambulance would not have waited.

 

[pmedic920]

Pretty sure the message being given is that he is not deceased.

Well on that.

That would seem like the case but we just don’t know that.

As terrible as it sounds many deceased individuals (especially young and healthy individuals) are kept on ventilators in an effort to allow time for family to say goodbye.
Another very valid reason for this is to be able to harvest organs.

My hopes and prayers are this is not the case in this case but it is the reality of possible outcomes.

 

[pmedic920]

There are reports on Twitter that he was intubated. One thing i don't understand and maybe you could help, why did the ambulance wait for the mother? Not to sound callous but in these situations minutes can count. In the UK I feel sure the ambulance would not have waited.

Intubation is something that gets done in almost every cardiac arrest situation.

As far as waiting for his mother it’s hard to say.
Could mean they considered him stable, might mean they considered efforts futile.
It’s just really hard to speculate on that aspect.

 

[DomeHawk]

Well on that.

That would seem like the case but we just don’t know that.

As terrible as it sounds many deceased individuals (especially young and healthy individuals) are kept on ventilators in an effort to allow time for family to say goodbye.
Another very valid reason for this is to be able to harvest organs.

My hopes and prayers are this is not the case in this case but it is the reality of possible outcomes.

I was just thinking the same thing. Hope that's not the case.

 

[Cyrus12]

It really looked like Roger was gonna pull a Vince McMahon..5 minutes to warm up...really awful.

 

[RiverDog]

This one hit home. As a junior in high school, I had a teammate that lost consciousness, collapsed on the field, and never recovered. He died 2 days later of a brain aneurysm. I was the player that substituted for him when he went down and stood by as I watched his lifeless body lifted onto a stretcher and put in the back of an ambulance. It was in September of 1971. No trained paramedics in '71 to give CPR, they were simply drivers that would take a victim to the hospital.

I created a Word document about the incident that I'd like to share if you guys think it appropriate. My thoughts and prayers are with Damar Hamlin.

 

[knownone]

The hit and aftermath look eerily similar to videos of baseball players getting hit in the chest with a pitch and collapsing. I can't remember what it's called, but the probability of survival is roughly 50/50, even with immediate treatment.

Let's hope for the best.

 

[pmedic920]

Pulse but not breathing. Wouldn't this indicate brain issues?

That’s a fair take.
Could be brain stem or upper spine as well. (Still technically brain related)
It’s not a 100% thing though.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

 

[SonicHawk]

Pulse is good, just praying that they got oxygen to him asap.

****, this is the worst.

 

[andyh64000]

The hit and aftermath look eerily similar to videos of baseball players getting hit in the chest with a pitch and collapsing. I can't remember what it's called, but the probability of survival is roughly 50/50, even with immediate treatment.

Let's hope for the best.

It is called Commotio Corrdis.

 

[Hockey Guy]

Well on that.

That would seem like the case but we just don’t know that.

As terrible as it sounds many deceased individuals (especially young and healthy individuals) are kept on ventilators in an effort to allow time for family to say goodbye.
Another very valid reason for this is to be able to harvest organs.

My hopes and prayers are this is not the case in this case but it is the reality of possible outcomes.

I have no idea what point you're trying to make & I don't care.

You seemed to take some umbrage that ESPN was telling us information that was pretty obvious & I was simply pointing out that saying he's in critical condition is better than saying he's not deceased which is the only other thing they could possibly say.