BRADY/PATS PUNISHMENT OVER TURNED BY JUDGE. (Updated 9/3/15)

[NWPatsFan]

He had a pretty good passer rating this February!!!! Just Sayin'

I kinda think the Patriots will be fine. They have been the best franchise this league has ever seen.*

FIFY

Your hate is delicious. I wish you had a better comeback to my reference to the passer rating comment. The game in the AFCCG was 14-7 at halftime...Patriots won...pretty convincingly once the Refs tampered with the balls. And it just continued into the SB. Brady will be fine and not even miss a game this whole investigation will get exposed by a neutral arbitrator. Life is good in the off season when your team has just won the SB with an amazing interception to seal the deal.

Kinda the whole point. They are good WITHOUT flubbing the rules. So WHY do it if there's no competitive advantage?

That is exactly why they didn't "flub" the rules. If you read the data from the report, all the balls acted as they should under the weather conditions. The balls that did not were the Colts balls, but the league needed to for some reason to prove the Pats cheated. I just read that Mike Kensil measured the balls and tols the Pats equiptment manager that "they are in big trouble" at halftime. That sounds kind of biased to me, that guy is a Jets tool. I encourage you to read some of the report and tell me what you think. It seems flimsy to me and most unbiased people.

 

[Hawkpower]

And they have to play with a regulation football for the first time since 2006. It will be interesting to see if Brady returns to his pre-deflated passer rating (before 2007) of 88, or if he can sustain his 102 passer rating that he magically "inflated" up to beginning in 2007. Oh, and those fumble numbers ought to come back up to the rest of the league rate as well.

Four games and a million bucks for seven years of cheating! Hardly a slap on the wrist. The league is losing me quickly. If I can't count on an even playing field then why am I watching? To see who cheats the best?

Trivia question: Which is the higher QB rating, Tom Brady's six years as a starter prior to 2007 or Alex Smith's career? Ding, ding, ding...Alex Smith by a comfortable margin. Remember, Tom Brady was above average on a really good team until something very profound happened in 2007 which caused him to become stastically great. That year his passer rating jumped from 87 to 117. Hmmm, and the Patriots suddenly stopped fumbling that year as well.

Tom Brady 2001-2007 = 88 rating
Tom Brady 2007-present = 102 rating
Alex Smith Career = 93 rating[/quote]

He had a pretty good passer rating this February!!!! Just Sayin'

I kinda think the Patriots will be fine. They have been the best franchise this league has ever seen.*[/quote]

FIFY[/quote]

Your hate is delicious. I wish you had a better comeback to my reference to the passer rating comment. The game in the AFCCG was 14-7 at halftime...Patriots won...pretty convincingly once the Refs tampered with the balls. And it just continued into the SB. Brady will be fine and not even miss a game this whole investigation will get exposed by a neutral arbitrator. Life is good in the off season when your team has just won the SB with an amazing interception to seal the deal.[/quote]





So what happened to Brady's fumble rate in 2007 and henceforth?

Must be magic.

delicious hate indeed.

 

[Hawkpower]

I kinda think the Patriots will be fine. They have been the best franchise this league has ever seen.*[/quote]

FIFY[/quote]

Your hate is delicious. I wish you had a better comeback to my reference to the passer rating comment. The game in the AFCCG was 14-7 at halftime...Patriots won...pretty convincingly once the Refs tampered with the balls. And it just continued into the SB. Brady will be fine and not even miss a game this whole investigation will get exposed by a neutral arbitrator. Life is good in the off season when your team has just won the SB with an amazing interception to seal the deal.[/quote]
Kinda the whole point. They are good WITHOUT flubbing the rules. So WHY do it if there's no competitive advantage?[/quote]

That is exactly why they didn't "flub" the rules. If you read the data from the report, all the balls acted as they should under the weather conditions. The balls that did not were the Colts balls, but the league needed to for some reason to prove the Pats cheated. I just read that Mike Kensil measured the balls and tols the Pats equiptment manager that "they are in big F---ing trouble" at halftime. That sounds kind of biased to me, that guy is a Jets tool. I encourage you to read some of the report and tell me what you think. It seems flimsy to me and most unbiased people.[/quote]






So the only logical conclusion then, based on your interpretation, is that the NFL and Goodell are biased against good friend Kraft and golden boy Brady.

That makes sense, doesnt it? The NFL wants to ruin its golden franchise over nothing.

you may want to reach for reality, it is floating away......

 

[NWPatsFan]

And they have to play with a regulation football for the first time since 2006. It will be interesting to see if Brady returns to his pre-deflated passer rating (before 2007) of 88, or if he can sustain his 102 passer rating that he magically "inflated" up to beginning in 2007. Oh, and those fumble numbers ought to come back up to the rest of the league rate as well.

Four games and a million bucks for seven years of cheating! Hardly a slap on the wrist. The league is losing me quickly. If I can't count on an even playing field then why am I watching? To see who cheats the best?

Trivia question: Which is the higher QB rating, Tom Brady's six years as a starter prior to 2007 or Alex Smith's career? Ding, ding, ding...Alex Smith by a comfortable margin. Remember, Tom Brady was above average on a really good team until something very profound happened in 2007 which caused him to become stastically great. That year his passer rating jumped from 87 to 117. Hmmm, and the Patriots suddenly stopped fumbling that year as well.

Tom Brady 2001-2007 = 88 rating
Tom Brady 2007-present = 102 rating
Alex Smith Career = 93 rating

He had a pretty good passer rating this February!!!! Just Sayin'

I kinda think the Patriots will be fine. They have been the best franchise this league has ever seen.*[/quote]

FIFY[/quote]

Your hate is delicious. I wish you had a better comeback to my reference to the passer rating comment. The game in the AFCCG was 14-7 at halftime...Patriots won...pretty convincingly once the Refs tampered with the balls. And it just continued into the SB. Brady will be fine and not even miss a game this whole investigation will get exposed by a neutral arbitrator. Life is good in the off season when your team has just won the SB with an amazing interception to seal the deal.[/quote]





So what happened to Brady's fumble rate in 2007 and henceforth?

Must be magic.

delicious hate indeed.[/quote]

Just because he improved doesn't mean he did anything illegal. Have you ever improved from doing something more throughout your life? And yes it coincided with the new rule, that was the intent (stop acting like you don't understand why it would help all QB's. The intent of the rule change was to allow all QB's to have the ball set to the specifications that they liked (within the rule there is a range 12.5-13.5). Brady improved a lot mostly because Belichick went out and got the greatest WR (Moss) I have ever seen in a Patriot uniform and the best slot reciever of all time. Of course his number will increase. He learned how to get rid of the ball quickly and make precise passes (you may have noticed a record setting amount of those during the SB). You are really not being honest with your info. There is still no eveidence of the Pats playing with illegal balls. The ideal gas law is the only reason the balls were low and that is legal according to the report.

 

[Sports Hernia]

This doesn't remove the stink off SB49 but so glad the Pats win is tainted. Wish it worked like college and they could make the team vacate the championship.

Deck is stacked against the Pats now repeating as champions. No Revis no Brady for 4 games. Every team in their division improved.

And they have to play with a regulation football for the first time since 2006. It will be interesting to see if Brady returns to his pre-deflated passer rating (before 2007) of 88, or if he can sustain his 102 passer rating that he magically "inflated" up to beginning in 2007. Oh, and those fumble numbers ought to come back up to the rest of the league rate as well.

Four games and a million bucks for seven years of cheating! Hardly a slap on the wrist. The league is losing me quickly. If I can't count on an even playing field then why am I watching? To see who cheats the best?

Trivia question: Which is the higher QB rating, Tom Brady's six years as a starter prior to 2007 or Alex Smith's career? Ding, ding, ding...Alex Smith by a comfortable margin. Remember, Tom Brady was above average on a really good team until something very profound happened in 2007 which caused him to become stastically great. That year his passer rating jumped from 87 to 117. Hmmm, and the Patriots suddenly stopped fumbling that year as well.

Tom Brady 2001-2007 = 88 rating
Tom Brady 2007-present = 102 rating
Alex Smith Career = 93 rating

He had a pretty good passer rating this February!!!! Just Sayin'

I kinda think the Patriots will be fine. They have been the best franchise this league has ever seen.

Your "just saying" at the end of your post makes you sound like you've been eating retard sandwiches all day.

I can see the subject is still a little tough for you.

Brady is not a cheater and this will all be cleared up once a competent investigation is conducted...it may take him suing the league, but it will happen. Brady is too competitive to roll over and take it.

Why did Brady get suspended if he didn't cheat, and then lie about it??? A competent 3rd party investigation found him guilty,
You are making yourself look like a fool.

 

[slargent4ever]

I would love for Brady to sue the league. He couldn't hide his phone evidence from the lawyers at that point. Which leads me to believe he will never do it.

 

[NWPatsFan]

I kinda think the Patriots will be fine. They have been the best franchise this league has ever seen.*

FIFY[/quote]

Your hate is delicious. I wish you had a better comeback to my reference to the passer rating comment. The game in the AFCCG was 14-7 at halftime...Patriots won...pretty convincingly once the Refs tampered with the balls. And it just continued into the SB. Brady will be fine and not even miss a game this whole investigation will get exposed by a neutral arbitrator. Life is good in the off season when your team has just won the SB with an amazing interception to seal the deal.[/quote]
Kinda the whole point. They are good WITHOUT flubbing the rules. So WHY do it if there's no competitive advantage?[/quote]

That is exactly why they didn't "flub" the rules. If you read the data from the report, all the balls acted as they should under the weather conditions. The balls that did not were the Colts balls, but the league needed to for some reason to prove the Pats cheated. I just read that Mike Kensil measured the balls and tols the Pats equiptment manager that "they are in big F---ing trouble" at halftime. That sounds kind of biased to me, that guy is a Jets tool. I encourage you to read some of the report and tell me what you think. It seems flimsy to me and most unbiased people.[/quote]






So the only logical conclusion then, based on your interpretation, is that the NFL and Goodell are biased against good friend Kraft and golden boy Brady.

That makes sense, doesnt it? The NFL wants to ruin its golden franchise over nothing.

you may want to reach for reality, it is floating away......[/quote]

Since when has the NFL done anything regarding discipline that makes sense...Ray Rice fiasco, threatening to suspend Beast Mode for golden cleats, not docking a draft pick of the Jets for tampering with a HOF CB, Bounty Gate, etc...

So all of a sudden we are gonna say Rog got it right...come on. The report is missing all of Brady's testimony except a few things that paint the picture that the NFL wants to paint.

Brady was the first signer of the lawsuit against the NFL anti-trust exemption, maybe this is a payback. Also, Mike Kensil is a huge Patriots hater who has had it out for the Pats ever since he worked for the Jets (and before). The NFL loves to stay in the headlines this time of year and this story is generating tone of headlines everyone wants to know the story.

You asked for my opinion, so there it is.

 

[253hawk]

Yeah well opinions are like Patriots fans.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Man, just think of how many Lombardis in a row the Patriots would have if they weren't the innocent victims of carefully orchestrated smear campaigns and punishments by the league. They'd probably be the perennial Super Bowl champion annually going back like, 17 years in a row.

Must be a rough life, being a Patriots fan; knowing how much has unfairly been taken from you, and all...

 

[Sports Hernia]

Where is NWPatsFan ???

Seriously, I want to hear his side of this.
I feel cheated for real, now :{)

He is shell shocked right about now. He didn't see it coming even though some of us were beating him over the noggin saying it would.

Maybe he enacted a "self ban". 8)

Just in case you forgot what it looked like...


Since this is a thread about Tom Brady it seems appropriate.

In case you forgot how the Cheatriots got there.

http://twitter.com/hipEchik/status/5979 ... 72/photo/1

 

[slargent4ever]

Obviously illuminati is the only rational reason for this. It makes more sense than the shyte patsfan is putting out here.

 

[NWPatsFan]

Why did Brady get suspended if he didn't cheat, and then lie about it??? A competent 3rd party investigation found him guilty,
You are making yourself look like a fool.[/quote]

Whoa. Personal attacks should go to the Shack.

If you believe that the report is competent, then we have nothing to talk about. The report is so full of holes it is a joke. Have you read it? The whole thing is a frame job, it is full of faulty logic and vague language. Very strange that you think it is competent.

 

[RolandDeschain]

The text messages alone nearly guarantee that Brady knew about it. Just stop, NWPatsFan. This is absurd.

 

[NWPatsFan]

Man, just think of how many Lombardis in a row the Patriots would have if they weren't the innocent victims of carefully orchestrated smear campaigns and punishments by the league. They'd probably be the perennial Super Bowl champion annually going back like, 17 years in a row.

Must be a rough life, being a Patriots fan; knowing how much has unfairly been taken from you, and all...

Good point, I hadn't thought about before.

 

[RolandDeschain]

Man, just think of how many Lombardis in a row the Patriots would have if they weren't the innocent victims of carefully orchestrated smear campaigns and punishments by the league. They'd probably be the perennial Super Bowl champion annually going back like, 17 years in a row.

Must be a rough life, being a Patriots fan; knowing how much has unfairly been taken from you, and all...

Good point, I hadn't thought about before.

That awkward moment when you try to make a joke, but everyone else thinks you're serious based on your posting history.

 

[NWPatsFan]

The text messages alone nearly guarantee that Brady knew about it. Just stop, NWPatsFan. This is absurd.

Which ones specifically? Let's seriously debate this as mature adults. I am willing to hear you out if you are willing to listen to me.

 

[Sports Hernia]

Why did Brady get suspended if he didn't cheat, and then lie about it??? A competent 3rd party investigation found him guilty,
You are making yourself look like a fool.

Whoa. Personal attacks should go to the Shack.

If you believe that the report is competent, then we have nothing to talk about. The report is so full of holes it is a joke. Have you read it? The whole thing is a frame job, it is full of faulty logic and vague language. Very strange that you think it is competent.

That wasn't a personal attack it's a fact.
.....but here's a promise, next time you tell me how to post or moderate, might be your last post.
You are on thin ice.

 

[RolandDeschain]

The text messages alone nearly guarantee that Brady knew about it. Just stop, NWPatsFan. This is absurd.

Which ones specifically? Let's seriously debate this as mature adults. I am willing to hear you out if you are willing to listen to me.

Alright, and I'm being completely serious when I say this, but it all comes down to how obtuse you want to be.

You think a couple of organizational nobodies by comparison are going to under-inflate the footballs of one of the two or three most important players in the National Football League for years without his knowledge or approval?

Is this what you're telling me? Do you believe that a couple of secretaries orchestrated the Enron scandal, too? Hey, maybe the administrative assistant to the CEO of a company like Coca-Cola or McDonald's is cheating that CEO's taxes without their knowledge, too.

Something like this does not happen without the knowledge of someone that important to an organization. It just doesn't. Rich, important people get everything they want done exactly how they want it. It's one of the perks of being rich and famous. It's pathetically ludicrous to believe that Brady's some unknowing victim about this.

 

[slargent4ever]

I'm thinking brady will recoup his lost wages with some new endorsements. I'm thinking of all the possibilities. Pretty much any tire company, fix a flat, reebok pumps, charmin, viagra/cialis. Come on there has to be more. I would hate to think Tom and Gisele may have a tough time paying bills this September.

 

[Sports Hernia]

The text messages alone nearly guarantee that Brady knew about it. Just stop, NWPatsFan. This is absurd.

Which ones specifically? Let's seriously debate this as mature adults. I am willing to hear you out if you are willing to listen to me.

Alright, and I'm being completely serious when I say this, but it all comes down to how obtuse you want to be.

You think a couple of organizational nobodies by comparison are going to under-inflate the footballs of one of the two or three most important players in the National Football League for years without his knowledge or approval?

Is this what you're telling me? Do you believe that a couple of secretaries orchestrated the Enron scandal, too? Hey, maybe the administrative assistant to the CEO of a company like Coca-Cola or McDonald's is cheating that CEO's taxes without their knowledge, too.

Something like this does not happen without the knowledge of someone that important to an organization. It just doesn't. Rich, important people get everything they want done exactly how they want it. It's one of the perks of being rich and famous. It's pathetically ludicrous to believe that Brady's some unknowing victim about this.

BINGO!