Seahawk772002":380qzckw said:
Asylum Quido
said the following
You weren't playing a team known for taking out players two weeks ago, either. You were playing a team who was falsely accused of having a bounty program which eventually turned out to be nothing more than a player run performance pool which routinely appeared in every defensive meeting room in the NFL. I have watched every single snap the Saints have played since the advent of Sunday Ticket and have never seen anything I would ever classify as "headhunting" or "intent to injure". The first hit by Rafael Bush was definitely a penalty according to today's rules, but it was no more vicious or intentional than 15-20 plays that occur every week across the league
My repsonse
Falsely accused - have you heard the half time secretly recorded tape of Greg Williams telling his players to twist Frank Gores knee in a pile in Divionsal Round at Candletick park in 2011
Once again, huge inaccuracies. First of all, the tape was not from halftime of any game. It was from the defense only meeting in the team hotel the night before the game. Secondly, it was not secretly taped. The videographer that made the recording was there filming a documentary on Steve Gleason, the former Saints player who was, and still is, battling ALS. Steve was invited to attend the meeting with his old defensive teammates. Thirdly, not only have I heard the tape, but I have read, in detail, the transcript. I have also read responses from several players that the verbiage used by Williams was his style of firing up the defense through the use of hyperbole. They claimed they never took his rantings literally and, in fact, sometimes it was so obscure that it didn't even make sense.
Next, the reference to Frank Gore had nothing whatsoever to do with a knee nor any pile. The reference was made as part of a lesson taught in defensive meeting rooms across the league. It has to do with the term "Kill the head and the body will die". The Kansas City Chiefs had it painted on as a huge sign outside the defensive meeting room at their facilities. It implies, that just as with a snake, if you kill the head the rest cannot function. Williams, in the manner of many defensive coaches, would identify the key player on the opposing team and stress the importance of limiting that player's affect on the game. In the case of Gore, he had been preaching all week long about needing to keep Gore from running north to south. He stressed stopping his up-field routes and turning him to the sidelines, making him run parallel to the line of scrimmage.
Keeping all of this in mind, here is the "actual" text from the tape concerning Gore:
You're here because we saw in you...and we hope we picked the right person that won't apologize for competing the way we have to compete. There may be better athletes, but not defensive football players that have to go into war and play we (expletive) play.
A mind troubled by doubt cannot focus on victory.
The NFL's a production business don't ever forget it. Where are we at right now? We gotta tie at the top. We've got a lot of guys at the top.
Kill the head and the body will die. Kill the head and the body will die.
We've got to do everything in the world to make sure we kill Frank Gore's head. We want him running sideways. We want his head sideways.
Little 32, we want to knock the (explicative) out of him. He has no idea what he's in for. When he's on the sidelines we've gotta turn that (expletive) over, turn their coaches over, turn the spectators over, go get that (expletive) on the sidelines.
It's a great game, it's a production business.
You can see the use of hyperbole, how he uses verbal imagery to get his point across. Jesus was well known for doing the same with his numerous parables, by no means directly comparing the two men, of course.
Note how he repeated the message twice in the beginning of the text. It was for emphasis. Note the references to turning over the coaches and the spectators. If it was in anyway literal in meaning then he would be implying that the Saints were to take out coaches and go up into the stands and slaughter the masses. LOL. No, it is all hyperbole.
