DT Malik McDowell expected to be released

[Seymour]

I think it is hilarious that some here think this "wasn't a bad pick because someone else may have picked him soon after".

Choke on that for a moment folks!!

:snack:

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I think it is hilarious that some here think this "wasn't a bad pick because someone else may have picked him soon after".

Choke on that for a moment folks!!

:snack:

How is picking a player where he was suppose to be picked a "bad" pick.

You guys are some of the greatest hindsight general managers in the history of sports, you should throw your applications into the hat next year when GM jobs open up before the batteries in your crystal balls run out.

McDowell was no worse of a risk pick than Frank Clark, in fact he wasn't even close to the risk of what Clark was arrested and kicked of the Michigan team for...................haven't heard you guys complain once about that pick.

 

[Seymour]

I think it is hilarious that some here think this "wasn't a bad pick because someone else may have picked him soon after".

Choke on that for a moment folks!!

:snack:

How is picking a player where he was suppose to be picked a "bad" pick.

You guys are some of the greatest hindsight general managers in the history of sports, you should throw your applications into the hat next year when GM jobs open up before the batteries in your crystal balls run out.

McDowell was no worse of a risk pick than Frank Clark, in fact he wasn't even close to the risk of what Clark was arrested and kicked of the Michigan team for...................haven't heard you guys complain once about that pick.

Because most of the intelligent teams (which now includes us in 2018....yeah for progress!) had him off their boards because he is an arrogant moron!!

Other than that...great pick!!

 

[MontanaHawk05]

I think it is hilarious that some here think this "wasn't a bad pick because someone else may have picked him soon after".

Choke on that for a moment folks!!

:snack:

How is picking a player where he was suppose to be picked a "bad" pick.

You guys are some of the greatest hindsight general managers in the history of sports, you should throw your applications into the hat next year when GM jobs open up before the batteries in your crystal balls run out.

McDowell was no worse of a risk pick than Frank Clark, in fact he wasn't even close to the risk of what Clark was arrested and kicked of the Michigan team for...................haven't heard you guys complain once about that pick.

Exactly. What kind of player do you gamble on? Picks with high ceiling - and McDowell had Calais Campbell ceiling. It justified the gamble. Unfortunately, it didn't work out.

This was a little different than the gambles Seattle has been making on the OL (Odhiambo, Glowinski, Fant, Ifedi). Those were guys with immense tools, enough to make them Pro Bowl offensive linemen if they mastered the technical side, but about as much established technique as I have. That puts them on the next tier down from McDowell in terms of gambles, which wouldn't be so bad when it comes to Odh, Glow, and Fant given that they were cheap - except we drafted so many of them and relied upon all of them to comprise a line.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I think it is hilarious that some here think this "wasn't a bad pick because someone else may have picked him soon after".

Choke on that for a moment folks!!

:snack:

How is picking a player where he was suppose to be picked a "bad" pick.

You guys are some of the greatest hindsight general managers in the history of sports, you should throw your applications into the hat next year when GM jobs open up before the batteries in your crystal balls run out.

McDowell was no worse of a risk pick than Frank Clark, in fact he wasn't even close to the risk of what Clark was arrested and kicked of the Michigan team for...................haven't heard you guys complain once about that pick.

Because most of the intelligent teams (which now includes us in 2018....yeah for progress!) had him off their boards because he is an arrogant moron!!

Other than that...great pick!!

You don't know what "intelligent teams" had them off their boards. Again, your hindsight alarm is going off Seymour. Pure unadulterated speculation.........and us in 2018? You mean the team that just got some of the worst draft grades in the league? Safe doesn't = "intelligent." You're doing what the experts are doing, speculating.

There's only one true constant in the draft, no one knows until years later.

 

[Seymour]

I think it is hilarious that some here think this "wasn't a bad pick because someone else may have picked him soon after".

Choke on that for a moment folks!!

:snack:

How is picking a player where he was suppose to be picked a "bad" pick.

You guys are some of the greatest hindsight general managers in the history of sports, you should throw your applications into the hat next year when GM jobs open up before the batteries in your crystal balls run out.

McDowell was no worse of a risk pick than Frank Clark, in fact he wasn't even close to the risk of what Clark was arrested and kicked of the Michigan team for...................haven't heard you guys complain once about that pick.

Because most of the intelligent teams (which now includes us in 2018....yeah for progress!) had him off their boards because he is an arrogant moron!!

Other than that...great pick!!

You don't know what "intelligent teams" had them off their boards. Again, your hindsight alarm is going off Seymour. Pure unadulterated speculation.........and us in 2018? You mean the team that just got some of the worst draft grades in the league? Safe doesn't = "intelligent." You're doing what the experts are doing, speculating.

There's only one true constant in the draft, no one knows until years later.

Draft grades don't win championships!!

I have trouble reading some of the things I see here knowing some believe what they are trying to sell. :?:

Carry on....Go back to quoting what Kiper thinks.... :roll:

 

[SoulfishHawk]

No fans know how many teams had him off their boards. Just a bunch of so called "experts" or "insiders" who claim to know more than they do. They took a chance, it didn't work out. Time to move on.
And Grades? Grades mean absolutely NOTHING.

 

[Seymour]

No fans know how many teams had him off their boards. Just a bunch of so called "experts" or "insiders" who claim to know more than they do. They took a chance, it didn't work out. Time to move on.

I'd love to move on. Unfortunately he is still with the team so he will still be a valid subject.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

How is picking a player where he was suppose to be picked a "bad" pick.

You guys are some of the greatest hindsight general managers in the history of sports, you should throw your applications into the hat next year when GM jobs open up before the batteries in your crystal balls run out.

McDowell was no worse of a risk pick than Frank Clark, in fact he wasn't even close to the risk of what Clark was arrested and kicked of the Michigan team for...................haven't heard you guys complain once about that pick.

Because most of the intelligent teams (which now includes us in 2018....yeah for progress!) had him off their boards because he is an arrogant moron!!

Other than that...great pick!!

You don't know what "intelligent teams" had them off their boards. Again, your hindsight alarm is going off Seymour. Pure unadulterated speculation.........and us in 2018? You mean the team that just got some of the worst draft grades in the league? Safe doesn't = "intelligent." You're doing what the experts are doing, speculating.

There's only one true constant in the draft, no one knows until years later.

Draft grades don't win championships!!

I have trouble reading some of the things I see here knowing some believe what they are trying to sell. :?:

Carry on....Go back to quoting what Kiper thinks.... :roll:

How is what Kiper does different than what you're doing? At least he predicts, and doesn't criticize after the fact.

I hope this draft class is great, and I agree grades are nonsense. But we don't know if any of these players will be good, just like we didn't know if McDowell would be good after we picked him.

He was criticized for not hustling and having immaturity issues...........not "could be involved in serious ATV accidents."

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Dwelling on something over and over again is productive? Ok :lol:

 

[Seymour]

Dwelling on something over and over again is productive? Ok :lol:

Nope, it's conversation and difference in opinion and beliefs which makes it something to discuss. Kindof how forums work.

It's May 21, start an interesting new thread and I'll join you! :2thumbs:

 

[Seymour]

Because most of the intelligent teams (which now includes us in 2018....yeah for progress!) had him off their boards because he is an arrogant moron!!

Other than that...great pick!!

You don't know what "intelligent teams" had them off their boards. Again, your hindsight alarm is going off Seymour. Pure unadulterated speculation.........and us in 2018? You mean the team that just got some of the worst draft grades in the league? Safe doesn't = "intelligent." You're doing what the experts are doing, speculating.

There's only one true constant in the draft, no one knows until years later.

Draft grades don't win championships!!

I have trouble reading some of the things I see here knowing some believe what they are trying to sell. :?:

Carry on....Go back to quoting what Kiper thinks.... :roll:

How is what Kiper does different than what you're doing? At least he predicts, and doesn't criticize after the fact.

I hope this draft class is great, and I agree grades are nonsense. But we don't know if any of these players will be good, just like we didn't know if McDowell would be good after we picked him.

He was criticized for not hustling and having immaturity issues...........not "could be involved in serious ATV accidents."

What the???

He built his entire career criticizing teams after the pick? What are you talking about?

Even a draft grade is a criticism of the pick after the fact for those that got low grades!

http://larrybrownsports.com/football/jon-gruden-mel-kiper-jr-russell-wilson-video/132215

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Ok Seymour, let's see....did you know Jerome Bettis is from Detroit? :229031_victory:

 

[Seymour]

Ok Seymour, let's see....did you know Jerome Bettis is from Detroit? :229031_victory:

No...but I know he belongs there!! :twisted:

 

[SoulfishHawk]

That had to be an all time record for mentioning where a player was from over a 2 week span leading up to the Super Bowl ukeface:

 

[Seymour]

Duh....how could I forget that exercise in ridiculousness!!

Hey....you were suppose to be trying to calm me down! :141847_bnono: :lol:

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Cabevell is gone.........

So very calming......

 

[Seymour]

Cabevell is gone.........

So very calming......

Much better!!! :2thumbs:

 

[truehawksfan]

2017 Draft selections -In order 35-46
35. Malik McDowell (DL)
36. Budda Baker (S)
37. Zay Jones (WR)
38. Forrest Lamp (G)
39. Marcus Maye (S)
40. Curtis Samuel (WR)
41. Dalvin Cook (RB)
42. Marcus Williams (S)
43. Sidney Jones (CB)
44. Gerald Everett (TE)
45. Adam Sheeham (TE)

I didn't research anyone of these guys, but that's my point. If you don't them, it means they didn't do a whole last season. So, while I'm not going to say these are the worst pick by those teams....they not good either.

 

[KitsapGuy]

Baker was one of four Cardinals named to the 2018 Pro Bowl as a special teamer.