LoneHawkFan":13vf4cp3 said:Well, in a season where he was badly injured for about 6 games, had basically zero consistency at the RB position due to many things...Russell didn't really take any more sacks than he has the previous 4 years. This with two rookies at tackle and the defense pinned back ready to roll. Several games with only one sack. Wasn't as bad as it seemed; fortunately we have a few spots there figured out for a good period of time.
True story.
FlyHawksFly":3bv1rpkr said:Melodramatic.
gowazzu02":1yy8c6pm said:We had a good run. Ultimately just a other team who popped for one ring nothing else.
nash72":1jxkqepo said:LoneHawkFan":1jxkqepo said:Well, in a season where he was badly injured for about 6 games, had basically zero consistency at the RB position due to many things...Russell didn't really take any more sacks than he has the previous 4 years. This with two rookies at tackle and the defense pinned back ready to roll. Several games with only one sack. Wasn't as bad as it seemed; fortunately we have a few spots there figured out for a good period of time.
True story.
Seriously? Your bringing up the offensive line? That's true desperation right there. Britt is the only semi serviceable lineman we have. Gilliam, Sowell, Fant, Odhiambo, Ifedi, and Glowinski are all freaking horrible. To say otherwise is clearly being a homer or delusional.
Cary Kollins":21b771qo said:Should have handed it to Marshawn.
Agree with everything except for 5. Wilson is an elite QB, its going to be hard to make good decisions when most snaps you are getting pressured instantly and have little time to make reads let alone throw the ball. Wilson spends most of the time running for his life evading pressure rather than making reads and throwing.TheLegendOfBoom":39xf4f2m said:Reasons Seahawks will not win another Super Bowl if not changed:
1. Tom Cable - this guy has to go
2. Darrell Bevell - this guy has to go for years already
3. Carroll needs to win players trust back - carrolls loyalty to his assistant coaches has cost him a lot of games, after this season, not all players believe he makes good decisions
4. Some key players best days are behind them - I believe most core players are no longer in their primes, another year older is not gonna help them
5. Wilson's decision making needs to improve - I don't believe Wilson is elite, honestly I feel he's a tier 2
Well said, I don't think the "playoff era" is over, but the "SuperBowl era" may be. But it really depends on where the team goes from here. If the team can do a mini-rebuild (think something like Denver after their SB loss - don't completely blow up the team, but don't be afraid to make some major changes), there's no reason we can't be back to the SuperBowl in the near future. But if we continue the offseason strategy from the past couple of years without any fundamental changes, I fear we'll be a bubble playoff team for a few years and then fall out of contention completely.West TX Hawk":25eyhg05 said:Make no mistake we'll continue to be competitive, but folks are blind homers if they can't see a visible decline. Some players are older and are losing a half step or more. In other areas such as our defensive schemes and alignments, offenses have caught up to us and exploiting our soft zones. Our offensive ideology and so-called identity need to be addressed-are we a ground and pound team with Rawls leading the way or are we a 60% pass team like this year?
It also comes down to a matter of perspective. Many on this board are seemingly satisfied with 10-6 type seasons and 2nd round exits. They view this as a "successful" season and how dare anyone question our coaches who won us a title 4 years past entering next season. Perhaps these fans are akin to college fans who view 8-4 Sun Bowl appearances as "great seasons." These fans view others' frustration as being "spoiled and greedy" or "be happy we're not the Browns."
Other fans like myself appreciate and are indeed grateful for our consistency these last 5 years because we endured so much worse decades past, but are questioning the maximization of the talent we do have and the urgency needed to seize this era because it can't last forever. There's no guarantee we will be able to reload each season and there's simply an indescribable feeling of destiny altered and disappointment if we fail to win a 2nd title based on the talent here.
We're obviously still a good, solid team but the last 2 years have proven we're not championship caliber right now and that's where much underlying frustration lies.
The reason I believe Wilson isn't elite is he holds onto the ball too long. Some sacks he takes aren't the o lines fault. Wilson has a tendency to want to make a big play too much instead of throwing the ball away. And when he wants too much to make a big play, often times he gets sacked instead of throwing it away.RussB":2hfaw22f said:Agree with everything except for 5. Wilson is an elite QB, its going to be hard to make good decisions when most snaps you are getting pressured instantly and have little time to make reads let alone throw the ball. Wilson spends most of the time running for his life evading pressure rather than making reads and throwing.TheLegendOfBoom":2hfaw22f said:Reasons Seahawks will not win another Super Bowl if not changed:
1. Tom Cable - this guy has to go
2. Darrell Bevell - this guy has to go for years already
3. Carroll needs to win players trust back - carrolls loyalty to his assistant coaches has cost him a lot of games, after this season, not all players believe he makes good decisions
4. Some key players best days are behind them - I believe most core players are no longer in their primes, another year older is not gonna help them
5. Wilson's decision making needs to improve - I don't believe Wilson is elite, honestly I feel he's a tier 2
You could put brady or aaron rodgers behind this line and they would struggle.
RussB":eqsmdlt3 said:This is one of the most talented teams ever assembled and should have been a dynasty. You can play it off whatever way you want but everything changed after XLIX. They would have beat brady and went back to back. They never recovered after that play.
Shame to see such a roster underachieve so bad. They got 1 championship which is awesome but everyone knows they should have had more.
TheLegendOfBoom":2e8zxqu5 said:The reason I believe Wilson isn't elite is he holds onto the ball too long. Some sacks he takes aren't the o lines fault. Wilson has a tendency to want to make a big play too much instead of throwing the ball away. And when he wants too much to make a big play, often times he gets sacked instead of throwing it away.RussB":2e8zxqu5 said:Agree with everything except for 5. Wilson is an elite QB, its going to be hard to make good decisions when most snaps you are getting pressured instantly and have little time to make reads let alone throw the ball. Wilson spends most of the time running for his life evading pressure rather than making reads and throwing.TheLegendOfBoom":2e8zxqu5 said:Reasons Seahawks will not win another Super Bowl if not changed:
1. Tom Cable - this guy has to go
2. Darrell Bevell - this guy has to go for years already
3. Carroll needs to win players trust back - carrolls loyalty to his assistant coaches has cost him a lot of games, after this season, not all players believe he makes good decisions
4. Some key players best days are behind them - I believe most core players are no longer in their primes, another year older is not gonna help them
5. Wilson's decision making needs to improve - I don't believe Wilson is elite, honestly I feel he's a tier 2
You could put brady or aaron rodgers behind this line and they would struggle.