http://footballgameplan.com/fgbps-2014-nfl-draft-grades-seattle-seahawks/
Good afternoon Hawk fans! Here's my '14 draft grades video for you guys
Enjoy!
Em
Good afternoon Hawk fans! Here's my '14 draft grades video for you guys
Enjoy!
Em
EmDiggy":1rgqywrd said:Thanks gang! I always appreciate the feedback.
I'll take the wait and see approach about Britt because 'nastiness' and 'being an athlete' doesn't equate to being a good football player. I mean, you guys had that in Giacomini. Also why pick a guy in Scott that has that issue when you can get immediate returns on someone that's better I.E. James Hurst (UNC) who hurt his leg in the Bowl Game.
I hate to use the term but Norwood isn't a 'threat' so to speak, it's more along the lines of a Jericho Cotchery or Jason Avant. Having threats tend to dictate how you to play defense…decent guys just don't bring that element to the table.
BUT as always with these things…I could be wrong and would be the 1st to admit
hawknation2014":1brh9str said:EmDiggy":1brh9str said:Thanks gang! I always appreciate the feedback.
I'll take the wait and see approach about Britt because 'nastiness' and 'being an athlete' doesn't equate to being a good football player. I mean, you guys had that in Giacomini. Also why pick a guy in Scott that has that issue when you can get immediate returns on someone that's better I.E. James Hurst (UNC) who hurt his leg in the Bowl Game.
I hate to use the term but Norwood isn't a 'threat' so to speak, it's more along the lines of a Jericho Cotchery or Jason Avant. Having threats tend to dictate how you to play defense…decent guys just don't bring that element to the table.
BUT as always with these things…I could be wrong and would be the 1st to admit
The big knock on Jerricho Cotchery and Jason Avant is that they lack the speed to create separation and threaten the defense downfield. But Norwood is a legit 4.4 receiver who also had one of the best 3-cone times at the combine (6.68). Other than size and length, Norwood has very little in common with those slower receivers.
hawknation2014":3qqh7747 said:They give us a C+.
They like Richardson, Kevin Pierre-Louis, and undrafted Jackson Jeffcoat and Dion Bailey. I like those guys as well, although I'm not sure where Bailey fits in our defensive scheme.
For whatever reason, they have really underrated Justin Britt. He's a solid athlete who plays with nastiness. I think he will provide solid depth at RT and RG, which is what we needed.
They also like Cassius Marsh, but I think the jury is still out on him. Carroll wants Marsh to bulk up to 300 lbs, which he was earlier in his career at UCLA, to become an interior rusher. Dan Quinn has also talked about Marsh as an interior rusher. That's an interesting experiment; I'm curious to see how that will play out. There are so many young, talented defensive linemen on this roster with a lot to prove.
Jimmy Staten is a strong athlete, but he looks like just a guy on this roster. A similar player like Michael Brooks, who went undrafted last year, seems to have more upside and football intelligence than Staten.
Garrett Scott is a raw athlete who is dealing with a cardiovascular issue that will keep him out of action this season. His career is TBD until he gets his medical condition resolved. Garry Gilliam has taken what Scott's role would have been as the developmental option at LT.
It's too early to tell what to expect from Eric Pinkins and Kiero Small. Pinkins is a good athlete who they are trying to convert into a big corner. Small is a terrible athlete whose sheer hustle may overcome his physical limitations. Those are two more interesting experiments from this draft class.
Overall, I would give it a B+. I like WRs Richardson and Norwood, who is not mentioned. Britt gives them important OL depth. KPL is a great athlete who they hope to mold into a great player. Meanwhile, Marsh, Pinkins, and Small are projects that could pay off over time.
Pandion Haliaetus":5ksbcfd1 said:Wow... Football Gameplan needs to do a better job of scouting. Just horrible.
Richardson ranked #119 when everything I read including a lot of mocks labeled him a surefire 2nd round pick
Britt not ranked, and we learned after the draft, Britt wasn't going to make it out of the 3rd round. Even then many pegged him as a 4th to 5th round pick.
Norwood not ranked, ridiculous, that's a big failure to understand Alabama's system.
Both Cassius Marsh and KPL were ranked as 6th rounders, they most likely wouldn't have made it passed the 5th round.
Can't really argue about Staten, Scott, Pinkins, and Small... although I would want to see where you ranked Tardiff because sans the heart issues I felt Scott would have been better than LDT especially as an LT considering Scott had 4 years of experience starting and had the biggest SPARQ score out of all offensive linemen.
Pandion Haliaetus":1vmeg6z1 said:Just a few things.
Cassius Marsh is expected to play around 270 not 300, they likened him to Michael Bennett type player.
Staten imo was a stab in the dark at getting a player similar to Red Bryant... coachable big body player with quality strength + length and great leadership intangibles.
Michael Brooks is more of a Clinton McDonald type. Shorter, slimmer, more athletic, great pass-rush potential.
hawknation2014":2ewwpftk said:EmDiggy":2ewwpftk said:Thanks gang! I always appreciate the feedback.
I'll take the wait and see approach about Britt because 'nastiness' and 'being an athlete' doesn't equate to being a good football player. I mean, you guys had that in Giacomini. Also why pick a guy in Scott that has that issue when you can get immediate returns on someone that's better I.E. James Hurst (UNC) who hurt his leg in the Bowl Game.
I hate to use the term but Norwood isn't a 'threat' so to speak, it's more along the lines of a Jericho Cotchery or Jason Avant. Having threats tend to dictate how you to play defense…decent guys just don't bring that element to the table.
BUT as always with these things…I could be wrong and would be the 1st to admit
The big knock on Jerricho Cotchery and Jason Avant is that they lack the speed to create separation and threaten the defense downfield. But Norwood is a legit 4.4 receiver who also had one of the best 3-cone times at the combine (6.68). Other than size and length, Norwood has very little in common with those slower receivers.
EmDiggy":1ediyrd5 said:hawknation2014":1ediyrd5 said:I wasn't talking about his 'speed' and '3-cone numbers'…what I really was saying, in a nice diplomatic way was that Norwood is just another guy. Nothing special, not a threat..basically an average prospect. Guys, IMO, like Norwood are a dime a dozen.
hawknation2014":qplkmvbo said:Pandion Haliaetus":qplkmvbo said:Just a few things.
Cassius Marsh is expected to play around 270 not 300, they likened him to Michael Bennett type player.
Staten imo was a stab in the dark at getting a player similar to Red Bryant... coachable big body player with quality strength + length and great leadership intangibles.
Michael Brooks is more of a Clinton McDonald type. Shorter, slimmer, more athletic, great pass-rush potential.
I can go pull the quote for you from Carroll in which he said he wanted Marsh to get back up to around 300 lbs. They also likened him to playing the Michael Bennett role, and Quinn later said they saw Marsh primarily as an interior player.
Brooks actually played at the five technique in place of Red Bryant last season. He's shown that he can handle that role. IMO, it's highly unlikely we will ever see Staten playing outside.