Popeyejones
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hawknation2017":20ue5qzd said:Popeyejones":20ue5qzd said:As for PC, agreed that every team has players that get upset, but we're not having this coversation about every coach nor does every team necessitate this conversation. I think we're deep enough into PCs tenure on the Seahawks to conclude that the Seahawks under PC seem to be atypically afflicted with undisciplined behavior on the field (e.g. jumping offsides, trying to get in fights after games are effectively over, flipping off coaches from the field, etc,) and off-the field (e.g. fights and screaming matches on the sidelines, locker room fistfights between players, backbiting between players on social media, acting boorish to the sports media, the team getting repeatedly fined for players being too aggressive during practices). I mean heck, even Russell Wilson, who is maybe the most vanilla "good soldier" we've seen at the QB position in a decade backbit his coach in the media when PC innocuously said he wanted Wilson to further develop his understanding of the game.
We can debate if all of that is a coincidence or a consequence of PC's "player's coach" coaching style, but we can't pretend the conversation isn't happening, or that the Hawks aren't thought of around the league as pretty remarkably undisciplined team.
FWIW, to me, trying to shop Sherman reads a lot like someone who has realized they left the leadership reigns a little too loose, and is willing to move on from one of their best players to send a message that he's not gonna just fall on his sword for what he takes to be his previous mistakes. That's obviously just conjecture though.
Calling the Seahawks an undisciplined team is just stupid. No team, other than the Patriots, has been more consistently disciplined than the Seahawks under Pete Carroll.
The fact is everything you write, Popeye, has an agenda. It was not too long ago that you were predicting salary cap hell for the Seahawks, which never materialized. It's nothing more than concern trolling while pretending to be motivated by objectivity.
Concern trolling would be me posting under false pretense as a Hawks fan, which I've obviously never done.
The last time I posted about the Hawks cap situation it was about how they have more cap space than they had probably initially budgeted for, and the upsides and downsides of that. Before that the only thing I had to say about their cap space was a couple years ago about how they seemed to be using an NBA-style cap strategy, and now everyone in the media can't stop talking about how much of their cap room is tied up at the top of their roster.
You're just making things up.
As for your claim that the Seahawks are thought of as the most disciplined team in the league save for the Patriots, well, uhh, :lol:
They're known as an incredibly talented and pretty undisciplined team. It's why some Hawks fans get off on talking about how the Hawks are the heels of the NFL (fwiw I don't think that's true, but it's what folks who make that claim are referencing).
In any case, I find your ranting about my secretive and hidden agendas to be pretty tiresome and off-topic, so I'm gonna put you on ignore. Do the same. It's probably better for everybody