theENGLISHseahawk":1zhqwddd said:
Zero are realistic, let's be honest.
I mean, the first one has the Seahawks trading Chancellor for a guard who earns +$8m in 2016 and turns 33 before the season begins.
Another has the Seahawks swapping him for a rank average center who barely played last season.
Another has the Seahawks trading for Tevin Coleman, who couldn't stop fumbling the ball last year and is one year removed from being drafted by the Falcons. You're swapping him for a third down back (that's what he'd be).
Another has the Seahawks trading for Matt Kalil :shock:
I agree, they're all pretty terrible. Hawkblogger seriously undervalues Kam. I think a better comparison is the Revis trade, in which Tampa Bay gave up 1st and 4th round pick (could've become a 3rd), and had to give him a 6 year/$96M contract.
Let's look at some of the parallels between Revis then and Kam now:
1. Kam is about to be 28; Revis was 28 at the time of the trade, going on his age 29 season.
2. Kam's value isn't at its highest right now (which is why it's a bad time to trade him), but neither was Revis's. At the time of the trade, he was coming off an ACL tear.
3. Revis was due a new contract, while Chancellor would like to have a new one. If Kam is traded, his new team might have to bump up his salary (but probably not significantly).
4. Revis was a year removed from being the best CB in the league (Sherman took that title when Revis was hurt), while Chancellor is a year removed from being regarded as the most intimidating safety in the league (might still be) with good coverage and excellent run stopping skills.
5. Both bring tremendous value to a defense for different reasons. Great safety play and physical intimidation were two of the distinguishing characteristics of our Super Bowl teams (and were on full display in XLVIII). The Panthers are the favorites to win the Super Bowl this year, and one of their defining characteristics is a physical defense. With the NFL being a copycat league, this recent trend drives Chancellor's value up.
With all that said, I still don't think Kam is as good as Revis as an overall player and doesn't play as valuable of a position, so I don't think he should fetch a 1st and 4th. However, the best value Hawkblogger suggested was the Raiders 3rd round pick, but the average trade value he threw out there was about a 4th. By pegging Kam's value at somewhere around a 4th round pick, he's saying Revis coming off an ACL tear plus the richest CB contract in NFL history was worth Kam Chancellor on a team-friendly deal plus a 1st round pick. I wholeheartedly disagree, and think Kam should be worth at least a high 2nd, or at best a late 1st from a team that feels like they are one piece away from SB contention. If we can't get that, then there is no reason to trade him right now.