Hope Pete and John are watching the other NFC teams

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randomation":5ltu7kgo said:
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I hope one day Wilson can play QB on the same level as Rodgers. The man has total command of that offense and you can feel his confidence just watching the game

It develops a lot of confidence when you can rely on your line to not completely miss their assignments.

this.

the QB, RB, and receivers DEPEND on the o-line. It's THEE most important part of an offense.
 

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Hawkfish":2gbl8w5p said:
Man, look what you can do with an offensive line!

Exactly my thoughts watching this game. Cable is the obvious culprit here but Carroll, Schneider, and yes, even Bevell have to take responsibility for this. It is an organizational failure.
 

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The idea of collecting high SPARQ dudes for the o-line depth could work; if they're taught assignment-correct play, and good individual technique. So, we could continue collecting these SPARQ dudes, if the coaching could get up to speed.

As it was, we had all of these athletes, but they couldn't handle pre-snap defensive movement, and would also whiff on their individual blocks.

They need to be trained to block, and to know where the double team is, or who to let through; all of that stuff.

But yeah, if they can load up with SPARQ stars, and coach them up; it would be explosive.
 

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Props to Green Bay for keeping the foot on the gas pedal at the end rather than taking a knee. Granted they have Rodgers but they also played with some guts and were rewarded.
 

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Pittsburgh's first drive they are already utilizing their no name tight end. Pittsburgh has always been great using their tight ends in their offensive attack

This is a game Pete and his gang need to be watching
 

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mrblitz":lpwgjo90 said:
The idea of collecting high SPARQ dudes for the o-line depth could work; if they're taught assignment-correct play, and good individual technique. So, we could continue collecting these SPARQ dudes, if the coaching could get up to speed.

As it was, we had all of these athletes, but they couldn't handle pre-snap defensive movement, and would also whiff on their individual blocks.

They need to be trained to block, and to know where the double team is, or who to let through; all of that stuff.

But yeah, if they can load up with SPARQ stars, and coach them up; it would be explosive.

The theory is definitely good but with our continued woes, it might be best to go by the book now and draft the biggest, mauling, bruising OL from the SEC and Big 10 and hope a couple stick.
 

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bmorepunk":9gdma2pt said:
Dallas' AMAZING offensive line was part of a team that just lost in their first playoff game. At home.

I don't understand your point.

They lost because they gave up 34 points on defense...

Are you saying you wouldn't want a line like Dallas? Lol.
 

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mrblitz":2juy68at said:
The idea of collecting high SPARQ dudes for the o-line depth could work; if they're taught assignment-correct play, and good individual technique. So, we could continue collecting these SPARQ dudes, if the coaching could get up to speed.

As it was, we had all of these athletes, but they couldn't handle pre-snap defensive movement, and would also whiff on their individual blocks.

They need to be trained to block, and to know where the double team is, or who to let through; all of that stuff.

But yeah, if they can load up with SPARQ stars, and coach them up; it would be explosive.

No offense, I get where you are coming from, but SPARQ is just another word for "let's experiment some more." Give me two adequate tackles and we are good to go. With the core we have the window is only a couple of years.
 

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Hawkfish":utubiek4 said:
Man, look what you can do with an offensive line!

More like

What you can do with your OL when the refs let you get away with holding almost every play
 

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IrishNW":33n9r5ig said:
I hope one day Wilson can play QB on the same level as Rodgers. The man has total command of that offense and you can feel his confidence just watching the game

If Wilson had the same time as Rodgers he would be MVP every year
 

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hawkfannj":2a1itvga said:
You guys know that cable doesn't pick the guys right.

So you think that JS picks players out of spite? Like Cable is I want this guy and JS is like no you get this guy?

3/5 years here cable has had the teams first pick.
 

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FlyingGreg":27anh0y6 said:
bmorepunk":27anh0y6 said:
Dallas' AMAZING offensive line was part of a team that just lost in their first playoff game. At home.

I don't understand your point.

They lost because they gave up 34 points on defense...

Are you saying you wouldn't want a line like Dallas? Lol.

I'd love a line like Dallas. But I wouldn't want to give up the players on defense to get there.

I think a line that isn't completely whacked out will probably be fine for Wilson, and that is attainable.
 

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bmorepunk":2legh646 said:
FlyingGreg":2legh646 said:
bmorepunk":2legh646 said:
Dallas' AMAZING offensive line was part of a team that just lost in their first playoff game. At home.

I don't understand your point.

They lost because they gave up 34 points on defense...

Are you saying you wouldn't want a line like Dallas? Lol.

I'd love a line like Dallas. But I wouldn't want to give up the players on defense to get there.

I think a line that isn't completely whacked out will probably be fine for Wilson, and that is attainable.

Yes. That's the dilemma.

But all that money on defense, and we can't stop anyone anymore.

Maybe we need to develop an offensive juggernaut that can outscore anyone.
 

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FlyingGreg":ywafu6q3 said:
bmorepunk":ywafu6q3 said:
FlyingGreg":ywafu6q3 said:
bmorepunk":ywafu6q3 said:
Dallas' AMAZING offensive line was part of a team that just lost in their first playoff game. At home.

I don't understand your point.

They lost because they gave up 34 points on defense...

Are you saying you wouldn't want a line like Dallas? Lol.

I'd love a line like Dallas. But I wouldn't want to give up the players on defense to get there.

I think a line that isn't completely whacked out will probably be fine for Wilson, and that is attainable.

Yes. That's the dilemma.

But all that money on defense, and we can't stop anyone anymore.

Maybe we need to develop an offensive juggernaut that can outscore anyone.
Ya think? Look at who is left in the playoffs methinks you're on to something...... the rules dictate it.
 

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IrishNW":d6usyvr0 said:
I hope one day Wilson can play QB on the same level as Rodgers. The man has total command of that offense and you can feel his confidence just watching the game


Wilson has taken over many games. He has everything in him that Aaron does. And I'm pretty sure Wilsons injuries this year were more severe than what the team alluded to factored in by playing behind the worst OL in NFL history. The OL this team put out on the field was embarrassing.
 

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More than anything else, GB won by using the few seconds left in the half to put together a drive.

Pete had 53 seconds and three timeouts against Atlanta and ran it twice. That was a mental surrender in my opinion.
 

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The teams left in the playoffs all have 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounders playing on the Oline. Tom Cable is a specialist in failure.
 

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FlyingGreg":3ltdko06 said:
bmorepunk":3ltdko06 said:
FlyingGreg":3ltdko06 said:
bmorepunk":3ltdko06 said:
Dallas' AMAZING offensive line was part of a team that just lost in their first playoff game. At home.

I don't understand your point.

They lost because they gave up 34 points on defense...

Are you saying you wouldn't want a line like Dallas? Lol.

I'd love a line like Dallas. But I wouldn't want to give up the players on defense to get there.

I think a line that isn't completely whacked out will probably be fine for Wilson, and that is attainable.

Yes. That's the dilemma.

But all that money on defense, and we can't stop anyone anymore.

Maybe we need to develop an offensive juggernaut that can outscore anyone.

There is supposedly a lot of cap room next year, so it's less about money and more about finding players that can get it done.
 

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There are many ways to build a championship team. Last year, both Super Bowl teams featured weak O-lines and ferocious defenses. This year's playoffs are notable for the absence of truly elite defenses, especially in the NFC.

That being said, this team does need a serious upgrade on the O-line in the offseason. The Hawks don't need an elite O-line like Dallas or Green Bay, but they do need one that isn't complete garbage. At some point a weakness becomes so great that it doesn't matter what other strengths you have. I know people like to rip Bevell, but for me it's really hard to judge the offensive gameplan or the playcalling when an O-lineman is whiffing off the snap every other play.
 

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falcongoggles":1bo4ul1z said:
More than anything else, GB won by using the few seconds left in the half to put together a drive.

Pete had 53 seconds and three timeouts against Atlanta and ran it twice. That was a mental surrender in my opinion.
Correct and is the reason Pete better adapt or he will be gone next year not later. Quinn basically uses the same defense but has killer instinct on offense just like Green Bay, New England, Pittsburgh and Dallas. Every last one of those teams would have blown us out this year no matter the venue. And a big reason why is mentality not talent. We don't need an all-world OL but average would be nice combined with some aggressiveness on offense and we would be fine.
 
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