How to get back in the playoffs ( How to become elite)

[SoulfishHawk]

John, step away from the keyboard. Let it go man. You're just gonna' give yourself high BP.

Meh

 

[olyfan63]

Yards alone do not make a QB elite.

Wilson in 2013 accounted for 3896 yards(run and pass), 27 TDS, and a 101 passer rating. He was top 10 in TDS, pass rating, YPA, and he did that while only being 22nd in attempts. that is Elite. Also, he had 4 4th qtr OT comeback wins also top 5 in the league. an avg QB could not do that.

Also, we had a top 3 defense and run game and that run game was only top 3 because of Wilson who was our 2nd leading rusher.

Now as to your vision that is great but again you need a top run game, a top defense, and you still need a QB that can make magic. If it was as easy as you think every team would be able to do it but yet very few have done it with a QB who is not in the upper echelon. We had a top defense and run game in 2011 and were 7-9. When you play the type of game you want to play you have a low margin for error and as I showed often need a QB that can make magic.

Wilson was a very good game manager and situational passer in 2013. Opposing defenses hadn't really figured out how to defend him and the read option with the threat of Lynch. Helping Wilson's comeback stats in 2013 was the Hawks' #1 ranked defense. Comebacks work way better when your offense scores and your defense holds the other team is held scoreless.

In 2014 (2015 SB49) we learned the truth about Russell Wilson and his inability to read certain types of defenses. It happened on the biggest stage at the worst possible moment. The pick by Malcolm Butler. All Russell could do in that situation was "trust the playcall". It coulda, shoulda been good enough Blame Bevell for the predictable offense that NE easily read thanks to Brandon Browner. The truth is that Russell wasn't good enough to overcome Bevell's schitty play call in that moment, by reading the Pats defense and knowing where to go with the ball. Maybe he was "too short" to see over the line and see Butler lurking? The horrible pick vs. the Rams in last year's Wildcard game was another moment of "the truth" about Russell. However, Fail Mary is also the truth about Russell (in a good way). So was the TD pass to Sidney Rice to beat Brady and the Patriots. Overall, the cold hard truth is that Russell isn't good enough to carry the team in a playoff game with his passing, not vs. a really good D. That's OK though, few QBs are. Give him a great D and an ass-whupping running game, and he's shown he can win a Super Bowl. Russell also needs an OC who can protect him with a good game plan that doesn't ask him to do things he is not very good at.

 

[toffee]

Yards alone do not make a QB elite.

Wilson in 2013 accounted for 3896 yards(run and pass), 27 TDS, and a 101 passer rating. He was top 10 in TDS, pass rating, YPA, and he did that while only being 22nd in attempts. that is Elite. Also, he had 4 4th qtr OT comeback wins also top 5 in the league. an avg QB could not do that.

Also, we had a top 3 defense and run game and that run game was only top 3 because of Wilson who was our 2nd leading rusher.

Now as to your vision that is great but again you need a top run game, a top defense, and you still need a QB that can make magic. If it was as easy as you think every team would be able to do it but yet very few have done it with a QB who is not in the upper echelon. We had a top defense and run game in 2011 and were 7-9. When you play the type of game you want to play you have a low margin for error and as I showed often need a QB that can make magic.

Wilson was a very good game manager and situational passer in 2013. Opposing defenses hadn't really figured out how to defend him and the read option with the threat of Lynch. Helping Wilson's comeback stats in 2013 was the Hawks' #1 ranked defense. Comebacks work way better when your offense scores and your defense holds the other team is held scoreless.

In 2014 (2015 SB49) we learned the truth about Russell Wilson and his inability to read certain types of defenses. It happened on the biggest stage at the worst possible moment. The pick by Malcolm Butler. All Russell could do in that situation was "trust the playcall". It coulda, shoulda been good enough Blame Bevell for the predictable offense that NE easily read thanks to Brandon Browner. The truth is that Russell wasn't good enough to overcome Bevell's schitty play call in that moment, by reading the Pats defense and knowing where to go with the ball. Maybe he was "too short" to see over the line and see Butler lurking? The horrible pick vs. the Rams in last year's Wildcard game was another moment of "the truth" about Russell. However, Fail Mary is also the truth about Russell (in a good way). So was the TD pass to Sidney Rice to beat Brady and the Patriots. Overall, the cold hard truth is that Russell isn't good enough to carry the team in a playoff game with his passing, not vs. a really good D. That's OK though, few QBs are. Give him a great D and an ass-whupping running game, and he's shown he can win a Super Bowl. Russell also needs an OC who can protect him with a good game plan that doesn't ask him to do things he is not very good at.

Three words:

LET RUSSELL COOK

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[John63]

Yards alone do not make a QB elite.

Wilson in 2013 accounted for 3896 yards(run and pass), 27 TDS, and a 101 passer rating. He was top 10 in TDS, pass rating, YPA, and he did that while only being 22nd in attempts. that is Elite. Also, he had 4 4th qtr OT comeback wins also top 5 in the league. an avg QB could not do that.

Also, we had a top 3 defense and run game and that run game was only top 3 because of Wilson who was our 2nd leading rusher.

Now as to your vision that is great but again you need a top run game, a top defense, and you still need a QB that can make magic. If it was as easy as you think every team would be able to do it but yet very few have done it with a QB who is not in the upper echelon. We had a top defense and run game in 2011 and were 7-9. When you play the type of game you want to play you have a low margin for error and as I showed often need a QB that can make magic.

Wilson was a very good game manager and situational passer in 2013. Opposing defenses hadn't really figured out how to defend him and the read option with the threat of Lynch. Helping Wilson's comeback stats in 2013 was the Hawks' #1 ranked defense. Comebacks work way better when your offense scores and your defense holds the other team is held scoreless.

In 2014 (2015 SB49) we learned the truth about Russell Wilson and his inability to read certain types of defenses. It happened on the biggest stage at the worst possible moment. The pick by Malcolm Butler. All Russell could do in that situation was "trust the playcall". It coulda, shoulda been good enough Blame Bevell for the predictable offense that NE easily read thanks to Brandon Browner. The truth is that Russell wasn't good enough to overcome Bevell's schitty play call in that moment, by reading the Pats defense and knowing where to go with the ball. Maybe he was "too short" to see over the line and see Butler lurking? The horrible pick vs. the Rams in last year's Wildcard game was another moment of "the truth" about Russell. However, Fail Mary is also the truth about Russell (in a good way). So was the TD pass to Sidney Rice to beat Brady and the Patriots. Overall, the cold hard truth is that Russell isn't good enough to carry the team in a playoff game with his passing, not vs. a really good D. That's OK though, few QBs are. Give him a great D and an ass-whupping running game, and he's shown he can win a Super Bowl. Russell also needs an OC who can protect him with a good game plan that doesn't ask him to do things he is not very good at.

what a shame the FACTS show everything you said is wrong. PC himself said it was a timing pattern with no time or ability to read anything, he was in a must-throw play. period as to the rest and once again FACTS show otherwise, Also once again let me remind you our so-called vaunted define had a 2 score lead with under 8 to go. that lead came to the courtesy of Wilson. again as to the rest great narrative to bad, it does not exist in the real world. again FACTS [make everything you said complete BS.

What is amazing is the hypocrisy that you and others have. I recall a game where we want the ball and are going to win. what happened was a timing pattern that resulted in a pick 6. But what did you and others do you blame the play call, the war but not the Qb you all said it was a timing pattern he has to throw it. Well, guess what so did Wilson.

 

[toffee]

John, step away from the keyboard. Let it go man. You're just gonna' give yourself high BP.

Meh

Sorry, no can do. Without John63 and his access to locker room, sideline conversations, dot net won't function. He is the defender of all things Russell Wilson, the post under the dot net roof, only he could right all the unrightable wrongs.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Good point Toffee, good point :irishdrinkers:

 

[SeaWolv]

There's no rebuild while Pete and John are still here.