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The only thing Collin's erasing is his name in the stat sheet after the game.
Sgt. Largent":3k2ykyln said:frosted21":3k2ykyln said:Largent80":3k2ykyln said:All 3 Seattle LB's are better.
False.
Collins is exceptionally talented - no way he's going to 'erase' Wilson though, that's asinine to say. Each player will get his.
Our point is our offense goes up against one of the most talented LB corps in the league in practice every day, who have at least 3-4 LB's just as fast and just as aggressive as Collins........as well as playing against as talented of LB corps in our own division every year. Throw in Kam.
So while Collins is very talented, it's not like he's some never been seen opponent that our offense won't know how to attack or deal with.
50yrpatsfan":bdvafcfk said:Sgt. Largent":bdvafcfk said:frosted21":bdvafcfk said:Largent80":bdvafcfk said:All 3 Seattle LB's are better.
False.
Collins is exceptionally talented - no way he's going to 'erase' Wilson though, that's asinine to say. Each player will get his.
Our point is our offense goes up against one of the most talented LB corps in the league in practice every day, who have at least 3-4 LB's just as fast and just as aggressive as Collins........as well as playing against as talented of LB corps in our own division every year. Throw in Kam.
So while Collins is very talented, it's not like he's some never been seen opponent that our offense won't know how to attack or deal with.
Fair enough, good replies.
Collins isn't perfect, esp straight up against the run. He's best at tracking down and snuffing out screens and scrambles, and I've seen backs out in the flat just simply fall down when he's nearby. Huge wingspan, physical freak, I believe he may hold the all time combine record for standing broad jump.
On blitzes he's in the Matthews range of ability. He was a safety for awhile in college so you see him downfield a lot too.
Somehow I feel we've heard this before.50yrpatsfan":trl22njv said:http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/24996136/super-bowl-49-x-factor-jamie-collins-the-patriots-russell-wilson-eraser
50yrpatsfan":2fxcpvbv said:DavidSeven":2fxcpvbv said:Prisco isn't an analyst. He uses preschool X&Os littered with confirmation bias to hide the fact he's a huge Cardinals fanboy. Not to take away from Collins, but Seattle has played better linebackers and had success.
They haven't played anyone like Collins because there isn't anyone like him. His range and quickness are ridiculous, but his biggest thing is that when it's him and the runner in space, that guy is going down.
50yrpatsfan":1kreande said:DavidSeven":1kreande said:Prisco isn't an analyst. He uses preschool X&Os littered with confirmation bias to hide the fact he's a huge Cardinals fanboy. Not to take away from Collins, but Seattle has played better linebackers and had success.
They haven't played anyone like Collins because there isn't anyone like him. His range and quickness are ridiculous, but his biggest thing is that when it's him and the runner in space, that guy is going down.
50yrpatsfan":3rodvlyu said:Sgt. Largent":3rodvlyu said:frosted21":3rodvlyu said:Largent80":3rodvlyu said:All 3 Seattle LB's are better.
False.
Collins is exceptionally talented - no way he's going to 'erase' Wilson though, that's asinine to say. Each player will get his.
Our point is our offense goes up against one of the most talented LB corps in the league in practice every day, who have at least 3-4 LB's just as fast and just as aggressive as Collins........as well as playing against as talented of LB corps in our own division every year. Throw in Kam.
So while Collins is very talented, it's not like he's some never been seen opponent that our offense won't know how to attack or deal with.
Fair enough, good replies.
Collins isn't perfect, esp straight up against the run. He's best at tracking down and snuffing out screens and scrambles, and I've seen backs out in the flat just simply fall down when he's nearby. Huge wingspan, physical freak, I believe he may hold the all time combine record for standing broad jump.
On blitzes he's in the Matthews range of ability. He was a safety for awhile in college so you see him downfield a lot too.
Missing_Clink":2v437u5h said:He's a good player. The Hawks will have to account for him. Russ faces faster LBs in practice every day though, I'm sure he will be A-OK
50yrpatsfan":2zbcxv8n said:DavidSeven":2zbcxv8n said:Prisco isn't an analyst. He uses preschool X&Os littered with confirmation bias to hide the fact he's a huge Cardinals fanboy. Not to take away from Collins, but Seattle has played better linebackers and had success.
They haven't played anyone like Collins because there isn't anyone like him. His range and quickness are ridiculous, but his biggest thing is that when it's him and the runner in space, that guy is going down.
50yrpatsfan":2nwzif7t said:DavidSeven":2nwzif7t said:Prisco isn't an analyst. He uses preschool X&Os littered with confirmation bias to hide the fact he's a huge Cardinals fanboy. Not to take away from Collins, but Seattle has played better linebackers and had success.
They haven't played anyone like Collins because there isn't anyone like him. His range and quickness are ridiculous, but his biggest thing is that when it's him and the runner in space, that guy is going down.
tailgater":37yflpb7 said:Missing_Clink":37yflpb7 said:He's a good player. The Hawks will have to account for him. Russ faces faster LBs in practice every day though, I'm sure he will be A-OK
But they can't hit him in practice, can they? Not quite the same thing.
I like Collins. Lots of potential in him. Not sure he'll be the spy. My guess is Hightower will be. Collins is the better cover guy.
50yrpatsfan":2b61lxqt said:DavidSeven":2b61lxqt said:Prisco isn't an analyst. He uses preschool X&Os littered with confirmation bias to hide the fact he's a huge Cardinals fanboy. Not to take away from Collins, but Seattle has played better linebackers and had success.
They haven't played anyone like Collins because there isn't anyone like him. His range and quickness are ridiculous, but his biggest thing is that when it's him and the runner in space, that guy is going down.
Chawks1":1ss92xvm said:50yrpatsfan":1ss92xvm said:DavidSeven":1ss92xvm said:Prisco isn't an analyst. He uses preschool X&Os littered with confirmation bias to hide the fact he's a huge Cardinals fanboy. Not to take away from Collins, but Seattle has played better linebackers and had success.
They haven't played anyone like Collins because there isn't anyone like him. His range and quickness are ridiculous, but his biggest thing is that when it's him and the runner in space, that guy is going down.
You realize Collins is slow. Runs a 4.64 40. Russell runs a 4.55 forty and practices against Bobby Wagner who runs a 4.46 40. We also,played against Clay Mathews and Luke Kuechly, both run faster than Collins. Bring it on.
Yeah, he's one of a kind :roll:50yrpatsfan":3vtu0mzi said:Sgt. Largent":3vtu0mzi said:frosted21":3vtu0mzi said:Largent80":3vtu0mzi said:All 3 Seattle LB's are better.
False.
Collins is exceptionally talented - no way he's going to 'erase' Wilson though, that's asinine to say. Each player will get his.
Our point is our offense goes up against one of the most talented LB corps in the league in practice every day, who have at least 3-4 LB's just as fast and just as aggressive as Collins........as well as playing against as talented of LB corps in our own division every year. Throw in Kam.
So while Collins is very talented, it's not like he's some never been seen opponent that our offense won't know how to attack or deal with.
Fair enough, good replies.
Collins isn't perfect, esp straight up against the run. He's best at tracking down and snuffing out screens and scrambles, and I've seen backs out in the flat just simply fall down when he's nearby. Huge wingspan, physical freak, I believe he may hold the all time combine record for standing broad jump.
On blitzes he's in the Matthews range of ability. He was a safety for awhile in college so you see him downfield a lot too.
Laloosh":vzdm1jpc said:tailgater":vzdm1jpc said:Missing_Clink":vzdm1jpc said:He's a good player. The Hawks will have to account for him. Russ faces faster LBs in practice every day though, I'm sure he will be A-OK
But they can't hit him in practice, can they? Not quite the same thing.
I like Collins. Lots of potential in him. Not sure he'll be the spy. My guess is Hightower will be. Collins is the better cover guy.
Not getting hit in practice doesn't seem like a very good qualifier for Collins being more difficult to face than some of the ridiculously talented defenses / line backers in the NFC (particularly those on his own team).
You sure that's the argument you want to stand on?
tailgater":31kkbgzy said:Laloosh":31kkbgzy said:tailgater":31kkbgzy said:Missing_Clink":31kkbgzy said:He's a good player. The Hawks will have to account for him. Russ faces faster LBs in practice every day though, I'm sure he will be A-OK
But they can't hit him in practice, can they? Not quite the same thing.
I like Collins. Lots of potential in him. Not sure he'll be the spy. My guess is Hightower will be. Collins is the better cover guy.
Not getting hit in practice doesn't seem like a very good qualifier for Collins being more difficult to face than some of the ridiculously talented defenses / line backers in the NFC (particularly those on his own team).
You sure that's the argument you want to stand on?
Geez, I guess I have to. How does facing his own defense that can't touch him show how he handles that type of talent / pressure? If you were talking his results against your corners, that different, but LBs who CAN'T TOUCH the guy in the red shirt?!
According to many on this board, SEA has the advantage at every single position. Pats have no chance! :shock:
It's a refreshing take frankly. Not many teams have the talent to back it up. SEA just might.
tailgater":k7myj6ri said:Laloosh":k7myj6ri said:tailgater":k7myj6ri said:Missing_Clink":k7myj6ri said:He's a good player. The Hawks will have to account for him. Russ faces faster LBs in practice every day though, I'm sure he will be A-OK
But they can't hit him in practice, can they? Not quite the same thing.
I like Collins. Lots of potential in him. Not sure he'll be the spy. My guess is Hightower will be. Collins is the better cover guy.
Not getting hit in practice doesn't seem like a very good qualifier for Collins being more difficult to face than some of the ridiculously talented defenses / line backers in the NFC (particularly those on his own team).
You sure that's the argument you want to stand on?
Geez, I guess I have to. How does facing his own defense that can't touch him show how he handles that type of talent / pressure? If you were talking his results against your corners, that different, but LBs who CAN'T TOUCH the guy in the red shirt?!
According to many on this board, SEA has the advantage at every single position. Pats have no chance! :shock:
It's a refreshing take frankly. Not many teams have the talent to back it up. SEA just might.