Late fumble officially credited to Wilson for a reason.

[John63]

Wilson put it too high and into the pads. Even if Carson anticipated it, it's almost impossible to get an arm up high enough to get over the ball, especially with pads on.

And yet if you relook atbthebvideo Carson top arm was above the ball.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

Wilson put it too high and into the pads. Even if Carson anticipated it, it's almost impossible to get an arm up high enough to get over the ball, especially with pads on.

And yet if you relook atbthebvideo Carson top arm was above the ball.

Because he was compensating for the high placement. Handoffs are supposed to be lower than that, precisely because the chestpad is bouncy and not a good place to stick a pigskin.

 

[chris98251]

the hand off 2as right between Carson's arms like it should be.

You have not played much football or on offense as a back or QB if that's what you think, you put in in the gut so the back can grasp protect and it's low, in the middle of the chest the back has to raise his arms to get it and see the exchange as well, no belly to absorb impact of exchange and a hard surface the shoulder pad chest protection section. It also makes the RB stand up and he loses his drive and momentum. Just a lot wrong with getting it high, also the Defense can rake and knock it out easy on the exchange without the ability to take the hand off in a natural position in the belly where the arms can just wrap and the RB lean has the help of his shoulders to block defenders from the ball and he can not alter his stride to hit a hole.

Not trying to pick a fight but try this at home have a kid our a partner turn and hand you a ball in the gut and then at your breast bone and try and secure and wrap and you will easily see the difference on being able to handle and secure.

 

[253hawk]

That's why I said almost. It's very awkward on the shoulder and actually impressive that he was able to do it so quickly. Put the ball in the RB's gut and it sticks (unless it hits their arm), put it on their pads and they have to trap it.

 

[Seymour]

IT WAS CARSON'S FAULTT MANNNNN, TRADE HIM TO CLEVELAND MANNN.

said a Penny fan with a diaper on

Chill out already. Penny has some tools and is a different back than Carson. It's good to have both backs.

it's not bad. and don't tell me what to do, I have full right to make fun of Penny stans who think he should start over Carson. And that view is fully deserves being made fun of

Name ONE person who has said he should start over Carson.

Scientist....and there are a couple of others as well.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Chill out already. Penny has some tools and is a different back than Carson. It's good to have both backs.

it's not bad. and don't tell me what to do, I have full right to make fun of Penny stans who think he should start over Carson. And that view is fully deserves being made fun of

Name ONE person who has said he should start over Carson.

Scientist....and there are a couple of others as well.

Perhaps I should've said "people with a clue".

 

[WestcoastSteve]

IT WAS CARSON'S FAULTT MANNNNN, TRADE HIM TO CLEVELAND MANNN.

said a Penny fan with a diaper on

Chill out already. Penny has some tools and is a different back than Carson. It's good to have both backs.

it's not bad. and don't tell me what to do, I have full right to make fun of Penny stans who think he should start over Carson. And that view is fully deserves being made fun of

Find me a post where someone suggested Penny should start over Carson?

Penny outplayed Carson today, you're sarcastic post shows how peeved you are about that.

 

[WestcoastSteve]

However, it wasn't his fault either. Vannett let his man go right by him and the Blitzer got into the exchange at just the right time.

Carson does need to clean up fumbles, yes, but it should be clarified before threads get out of left field.

If I remember correctly all fumbles on QB/RB exchanges are credited to the QB's.

 

[John63]

the hand off 2as right between Carson's arms like it should be.

You have not played much football or on offense as a back or QB if that's what you think, you put in in the gut so the back can grasp protect and it's low, in the middle of the chest the back has to raise his arms to get it and see the exchange as well, no belly to absorb impact of exchange and a hard surface the shoulder pad chest protection section. It also makes the RB stand up and he loses his drive and momentum. Just a lot wrong with getting it high, also the Defense can rake and knock it out easy on the exchange without the ability to take the hand off in a natural position in the belly where the arms can just wrap and the RB lean has the help of his shoulders to block defenders from the ball and he can not alter his stride to hit a hole.

Not trying to pick a fight but try this at home have a kid our a partner turn and hand you a ball in the gut and then at your breast bone and try and secure and wrap and you will easily see the difference on being able to handle and secure.

Actually I have and have had handoffs high and never had a problem. But whatever lets blame Wilson for it, why not.

 

[Jazzhawk]

IT WAS CARSON'S FAULTT MANNNNN, TRADE HIM TO CLEVELAND MANNN.

said a Penny fan with a diaper on

Chill out already. Penny has some tools and is a different back than Carson. It's good to have both backs.

it's not bad. and don't tell me what to do, I have full right to make fun of Penny stans who think he should start over Carson. And that view is fully deserves being made fun of

Find me a post where someone suggested Penny should start over Carson?

Penny outplayed Carson today, you're sarcastic post shows how peeved you are about that.

http://seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=156043

About 3 posts down from this thread.

 

[John63]

However, it wasn't his fault either. Vannett let his man go right by him and the Blitzer got into the exchange at just the right time.

Carson does need to clean up fumbles, yes, but it should be clarified before threads get out of left field.

If I remember correctly all fumbles on QB/RB exchanges are credited to the QB's.

correct regardless whose fault it is, that said I dont blame Carson either I blame vannett

 

[nanomoz]

That fumble should be Carson's full stop. Russ planted the ball in his gut and Carson could have secured it.

As such, 3 lost fumbles in 2 games. This is how you get doghoused by Pete.

 

[WestcoastSteve]

Chill out already. Penny has some tools and is a different back than Carson. It's good to have both backs.

it's not bad. and don't tell me what to do, I have full right to make fun of Penny stans who think he should start over Carson. And that view is fully deserves being made fun of

Find me a post where someone suggested Penny should start over Carson?

Penny outplayed Carson today, you're sarcastic post shows how peeved you are about that.

http://seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=156043

About 3 posts down from this thread.

And everyone jumped on him for it. Carson will be fine, his track record suggest he doesn't have a serious fumbling issue.

 

[chris98251]

That fumble should be Carson's full stop. Russ planted the ball in his gut and Carson could have secured it.

As such, 3 lost fumbles in 2 games. This is how you get doghoused by Pete.

You didn't watch the replay then it was in his chest on the pads.

 

[hgwellz12]

IT WAS CARSON'S FAULTT MANNNNN, TRADE HIM TO CLEVELAND MANNN.

said a Penny fan with a diaper on

Who is Cleveland Mannn?

Florida Mannn's cross-eyed cuzzin.

 

[oldhawkfan]

IT WAS CARSON'S FAULTT MANNNNN, TRADE HIM TO CLEVELAND MANNN.

said a Penny fan with a diaper on

Who is Cleveland Mannn?

Not sure but Terrence Mann is a character from Field of Dreams.

 

[misfit]

I believe anytime its a mishandled handoff they credit the qb with the fumble since he didn't complete transitioning the ball from his posession to the rb, even if the rb is at fault.

 

[vin.couve12]

Still finding something to argue over? This is not a Wilson/Carson conversation. Previous poster was right that technically, all exchange fumbles are credited to the QB, but this was clearly on Vannett.

 

[Hawkpower]

Watt (pretty sure it was anyway) made a FANTASTIC play to dislodge the ball on fumble number one as well.

As others have said, he doesn't have a history of issues so he gets the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

 

[Jazzhawk]

it's not bad. and don't tell me what to do, I have full right to make fun of Penny stans who think he should start over Carson. And that view is fully deserves being made fun of

Find me a post where someone suggested Penny should start over Carson?

Penny outplayed Carson today, you're sarcastic post shows how peeved you are about that.

http://seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=156043

About 3 posts down from this thread.

And everyone jumped on him for it. Carson will be fine, his track record suggest he doesn't have a serious fumbling issue.

Oh heck, I agree 100%. I love CC and he's my starting RB as far as I'm concerned.