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Jville":1zxlcuhn said:
And very good value for us. A 7th AND a 5th round pick -- very nice for a guy who was in all likelihood going to be relegated to mostly a Special Teams role with the Hawks.
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And very good value for us. A 7th AND a 5th round pick -- very nice for a guy who was in all likelihood going to be relegated to mostly a Special Teams role with the Hawks.
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Official Confirmation from the Patriots (as if we need that) ...
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IrishNW":1j98xp6q said:
They got more than I would have figured, but Still nowhere near "at least a 4th" as Captain dart board guessed.
Mid 4th = 70 points
Mid 5th plus mid 7th = 42 points
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They gave Cassius enough time to show something.
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Hawkblogger just posted this. I know how some people feel about Pro Football Focus, so take this FWIW ...
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New line Coach Clint Hurtt is having an impact on the defensive line. It is gonna be a different rotation. Should be interesting and fun. Trading partners need to cultivate mutually advantageous trades. The Seahawks and Patriots have done just that with their two trades.
Bill Belichick is gonna love the relentless motor and violence Marsh brings to his defense and special teams. And, Marsh keeps improving his game every year. Sorry Jets fans.
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And as an added bonus for Marsh, now that he's a Cheatriot, those late hit flags on the QB will mysteriously disappear. 8)Jville":345w21o8 said:Hawkscanner":345w21o8 said:
New line Coach Clint Hurtt is having an impact on the defensive line. It is gonna be a different rotation. Should be interesting and fun. Trading partners need to cultivate mutually advantageous trades. The Seahawks and Patriots have done just that with their two trades.
Bill Belichick is gonna love the relentless motor and violence Marsh brings to his defense and special teams. And, Marsh keeps improving his game every year. Sorry Jets fans.
Jville":jlalolxi said:Hawkscanner":jlalolxi said:
New line Coach Clint Hurtt is having an impact on the defensive line. It is gonna be a different rotation. Should be interesting and fun. Trading partners need to cultivate mutually advantageous trades. The Seahawks and Patriots have done just that with their two trades.
Bill Belichick is gonna love the relentless motor and violence Marsh brings to his defense and special teams. And, Marsh keeps improving his game every year. Sorry Jets fans.
Holy Crap, he dropped a Kiss of Death
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He'll probably grow a beard and become an above average veteran player on the Patriots now.
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Utterly forgettable depth guy. Didn't irritate me the way the Kearse situation did because unlike Kearse I didn't see that Marsh was taking reps I'd rather go to someone else. But this doesn't move the needle at all for me. I'm fine with any compensation at all.
seahawkfreak":2c5z6q1v said:
He will fit the Patriots situational schemes. I figured he was gone when he played late into the 4th preseason game. Will miss his high motor and intensity but not the costly penalties he was prone to. Good special teams player just too much of a tweener to be a core player.
seahawkfreak":1gaprob2 said:
He will fit the Patriots situational schemes. I figured he was gone when he played late into the 4th preseason game. Will miss his high motor and intensity but not the costly penalties he was prone to. Good special teams player just too much of a tweener to be a core player.
I liked Marsh's motor and I thought he was starting to put it together. In this preseason, they actually had him move inside on rush downs and he did decently.
Think about this for a minute: Bellichick usually fleeces teams in trades. He sure got us with Deion Branch. That he gave up a 5th and 7th for Marsh should tell you what you need to know about his potential. And his respect for our defense and defensive coaches. Bellichick also loves his draft picks. He won't throw away a 5th round pick on a ST player.
Think about this for a minute: Bellichick usually fleeces teams in trades. He sure got us with Deion Branch. That he gave up a 5th and 7th for Marsh should tell you what you need to know about his potential. And his respect for our defense and defensive coaches. Bellichick also loves his draft picks. He won't throw away a 5th round pick on a ST player.
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Hawks46":182uh51h said:
Good viewpoint. I am indifferent about this trade. Could have been a diamond in the rough but ended up to be just a regular player. A lot of sports journalist thought we got a steal for him in the 4th round. Thought the guy had potential and didn't mind him on the team but at the same time felt like we got a good deal for him, trade gives us a recycle to find a gem. I honestly expect him to thrive in that NE D especially if Patricia stays up there (Yeah, I used his last name to make him a girl).
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More often than not, Marsh would do something that was irritating to me - not holding contain, drawing a stupid penalty. So, I'm OK with him leaving and giving someone else a shot.
Marsh was a a very good performer on special teams and made some plays in situational defenses. Trading him for two late picks -- who will be at the END of the 5th and 7th rounds to boot -- guys who might not even contribute? Ouch. Couple that with making a deal with the devil himself, just because Marsh is near the end of his contract? Sorry, but I see very little upside to this trade.
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Tusc2000":2cyoj2jz said:
Trading a special teamer for 2 picks is a win. Marsh ws no good as a DE.
Cc5674":1ggbcqy5 said:
A lot of fans struggle to understand the value of hybrid players or tweeners. Marsh is one of those hybrids. I have no doubt Cassius Marsh is still evolving and that his best years are yet to come.
For befuddled fans left behind, there are two new faces on the roster that likely better fit locked in notions of what a defensive end should look like.
Coach Clint Hurtt is orchestrating a make over of his defensive line.
Everyone should be happy.
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