Pick #69, Tyler Lockett, WR/KR/Gunner, KSU

[ducks41468]

People are excited about getting a return man, but hopefully we actually got a good receiver because giving up 3 picks for a return man is a large price to pay. You don't draft return specialists in the 3rd round.

You do if your best option was Bryan Walters. Well worth the price if it means never seeing another Bryan Walters type returning punts.

I don't know about that. If your punter or kicker sucks, yeah, it's gonna hurt you, but that doesn't mean you draft a replacement in the first few rounds. Frankly I feel like the value of a kick returner is overstated. How much does the average NFL returner impact a game compared to a Walters type? Last year we were 25th in punt return yardage at 7 ypg. San Diego, at 16th, averaged 8.8. Only three teams had more than one punt return TD all year. Considering how little variability there is, how much of a difference does it really make?

I could tell by your post that you "don't know about that". It seems that you don't think that the kid can be as good as Kearse. What I watched of his highlights, he looks like he could boot Kearse off the team as a rookie.

Thinking Lockett isn't worth three late round picks looks silly.

Tyler broke his father's school records for career receptions and yards. In 2014, was selected second-team All-American as an all-purpose player and first-team All-Big 12. Was also a Biletnikoff Award semifinalist (nation's top wide receiver). Two-time Big 12 Special Teams Player of the Year (2014 and 2013). In 2013, selected first-team All-Big 12 as a wide receiver and kick returner. Caught three touchdown passes in Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl and was selected as Offensive MVP. Honorable mention All-Big 12 in 2012, finishing with four receiving touchdowns and two kick-return touchdowns. Named 2011 Big-12 Offensive Freshman of the Year and second-team All-Big 12 kick returner. Won a Class 5A State Championship as a senior at Booker T. Washington (Okla.).

No need for insults. I didn't say Lockett wasn't worth a 3rd round pick. I said a return specialist wasn't worth a 3rd round pick no matter how bad your return game is, and I hope Lockett is good enough to make the team on the merits of his receiving skills and not just his special teams skills (like Lockette).

 

[BlueThunder]

Look at it this way: Basically we traded our 3rd round pick, Max Unger, our 5th round pick, and Percy Harvin for Tyler Lockett.

So, are you being snarky and saying Tyler ain't all that?

 

[rideaducati]

I could tell by your post that you "don't know about that". It seems that you don't think that the kid can be as good as Kearse. What I watched of his highlights, he looks like he could boot Kearse off the team as a rookie.

Thinking Lockett isn't worth three late round picks looks silly.

Tyler broke his father's school records for career receptions and yards. In 2014, was selected second-team All-American as an all-purpose player and first-team All-Big 12. Was also a Biletnikoff Award semifinalist (nation's top wide receiver). Two-time Big 12 Special Teams Player of the Year (2014 and 2013). In 2013, selected first-team All-Big 12 as a wide receiver and kick returner. Caught three touchdown passes in Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl and was selected as Offensive MVP. Honorable mention All-Big 12 in 2012, finishing with four receiving touchdowns and two kick-return touchdowns. Named 2011 Big-12 Offensive Freshman of the Year and second-team All-Big 12 kick returner. Won a Class 5A State Championship as a senior at Booker T. Washington (Okla.).

No need for insults. I didn't say Lockett wasn't worth a 3rd round pick. I said a return specialist wasn't worth a 3rd round pick no matter how bad your return game is, and I hope Lockett is good enough to make the team on the merits of his receiving skills and not just his special teams skills (like Lockette).

"The more you can do" is a philosophy the Seahawks use. This kid's dad played in the NFL, so he has been taught things that most other receivers don't learn until they get to the NFL. I have faith that he will be no worse than Kearse plus he returns punts and kicks. What's not to like?

 

[hieroglyphics]

People are excited about getting a return man, but hopefully we actually got a good receiver because giving up 3 picks for a return man is a large price to pay. You don't draft return specialists in the 3rd round.

You do if your best option was Bryan Walters. Well worth the price if it means never seeing another Bryan Walters type returning punts.

I don't know about that. If your punter or kicker sucks, yeah, it's gonna hurt you, but that doesn't mean you draft a replacement in the first few rounds. Frankly I feel like the value of a kick returner is overstated. How much does the average NFL returner impact a game compared to a Walters type? Last year we were 25th in punt return yardage at 7 ypg. San Diego, at 16th, averaged 8.8. Only three teams had more than one punt return TD all year. Considering how little variability there is, how much of a difference does it really make?

Value of a returner is understated if anything, especially when he can be the top returner in the NFL.

An increase of 5 yards on average each and every offensive drive is massive. Add that up over the course of the game and you're talking about significant control of the field position. Given we have an elite defense, punt return yards mean a lot more for us than they would a normal team.

 

[Spin Doctor]

People are excited about getting a return man, but hopefully we actually got a good receiver because giving up 3 picks for a return man is a large price to pay. You don't draft return specialists in the 3rd round.

You do if your best option was Bryan Walters. Well worth the price if it means never seeing another Bryan Walters type returning punts.

I don't know about that. If your punter or kicker sucks, yeah, it's gonna hurt you, but that doesn't mean you draft a replacement in the first few rounds. Frankly I feel like the value of a kick returner is overstated. How much does the average NFL returner impact a game compared to a Walters type? Last year we were 25th in punt return yardage at 7 ypg. San Diego, at 16th, averaged 8.8. Only three teams had more than one punt return TD all year. Considering how little variability there is, how much of a difference does it really make?

I could tell by your post that you "don't know about that". It seems that you don't think that the kid can be as good as Kearse. What I watched of his highlights, he looks like he could boot Kearse off the team as a rookie.

Thinking Lockett isn't worth three late round picks looks silly because they still have 6 late round picks left to use.

Tyler broke his father's school records for career receptions and yards. In 2014, was selected second-team All-American as an all-purpose player and first-team All-Big 12. Was also a Biletnikoff Award semifinalist (nation's top wide receiver). Two-time Big 12 Special Teams Player of the Year (2014 and 2013). In 2013, selected first-team All-Big 12 as a wide receiver and kick returner. Caught three touchdown passes in Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl and was selected as Offensive MVP. Honorable mention All-Big 12 in 2012, finishing with four receiving touchdowns and two kick-return touchdowns. Named 2011 Big-12 Offensive Freshman of the Year and second-team All-Big 12 kick returner. Won a Class 5A State Championship as a senior at Booker T. Washington (Okla.).

I don't think Lockett has the ability to play on the outside full time. How will he respond to NFL level DBs that are adept at press coverage? How will he respond to much more savvy DB's that have had experience against some of the most effective receivers in the game? I don't think he has the skillset to become an outside receiver. Kearse is one of the only guys on our team that has that skillset. Is he a number one receiver? No, but at least he's a deep threat and one of our only receivers that can go up for a jump ball.

I see Lockett as more of a slasher type of player that can threaten teams in several different ways, but not necessarily be adept at being a full time number one receiver. I think he'll be a threat, but not in a conventional way.

 

[vin.couve12]

What if I told you Lockett had the same measurables as Golden Tate in the combine.. save for about 10 lbs (which he can easily put on in an NFL workout program) and hand size?

Lockett is probably a better route runner than Tate was coming out of college as well.

But if you watch Lockett's film and compare it to Tate's in college .. (KEYWORD: COLLEGE.. since I think many people have clouded memories of Tate thanks to this season and the Super Bowl season) .. they are very, very similar.

I get it.. we all clamored for that 6-3 .. 6-4 .. 6-5 monster. Hell I was foaming at the mouth for DGB. But Tyler Lockett can play and he will instantly have an effect on this team simply with his return skills. It's a huge difference fair catching everything as opposed to getting 10-20 extra yards for a drive.. sometimes more than that.

I said this earlier, and I'll say this again -- Tate and Lockett do NOT have that much in common, especially coming out of college.

They're really nothing alike at all.

 

[Mick063]

Obviously a man that has worked extensively at his craft. His route running looks very polished. I think he can immediately contribute at wide receiver or slot.

I think he will turn out better than the kid we took from Colorado last year.

 

[chris98251]

Maybe more like Cobb in GB?

 

[theincrediblesok]

And yet we made it to our 2nd Superbowl with small WRs. Our running game is the main focus but I see this year we will become more balanced. Graham will get the double team when teams will also stacked the box to stop Lynch, and have a spy for Wilson......that spells disaster for any defense. Someone will be wide open and Tyler's double move and cuts will be what gives him instance separation, look at how many defense's ankles he's breaking. I can see Tyler being the replacement for Kearse and/or Ricardo Lockette.

 

[TDOTSEAHAWK]

There was a time not so long ago when this team was DYING to accumulate playmakers like this kid and instead we went with Mansfield Wrotto.

 

[theincrediblesok]

You know who he compares to in my mind?


Antonio Brown

I always wanted an Antonio Brown on our team

 

[Smellyman]

This guy REALLY likes Lockett. A lot of gifs.

some profane language...

http://www.reddit.com/r/Texans/comments/346m4u/draft_talk_tuesday_the_grand_finale/

 

[HawkFan72]

Look at it this way: Basically we traded our 3rd round pick, Max Unger, our 5th round pick, and Percy Harvin for Tyler Lockett.

So, are you being snarky and saying Tyler ain't all that?

Just merely pointing out what we essentially gave up when you look at which picks we traded. It's a lot.

I like the player. But he comes at a steep cost.

 

[QuahHawk]

Golden Tate 2.0?

That's what I'm thinking too

He will replace his production but they really aren't the same type of WR. Lockett is so much more of a skilled route runner thanTate it is crazy. Lockett is like cross between Baldwin's prescision, Harvin's quickness, Tate's hands, jump balls and return skills, Ricardo Lockett's gunner skills andblazing speed.


This video shows how crazy quick Lockett is, flashback feeling I got similar to when I watched Odell Beckham Jr tape last year

http://www.seahawks.com/video/2015/05/0 ... nsas-state

 

[Spin Doctor]

And yet we made it to our 2nd Superbowl with small WRs. Our running game is the main focus but I see this year we will become more balanced. Graham will get the double team when teams will also stacked the box to stop Lynch, and have a spy for Wilson......that spells disaster for any defense. Someone will be wide open and Tyler's double move and cuts will be what gives him instance separation, look at how many defense's ankles he's breaking. I can see Tyler being the replacement for Kearse and/or Ricardo Lockette.

We made it to the superbowl but our offense had some serious problems to overcome, one of the biggest being problems in the redzone. Our defense really masked some of our offensive deficiencies. We were top 10 overall but our offense would many times be completely irrelevant for 3 quarters at times. A receiver that demands respect at all times will also help out the running game immensely. If we could get our offense straightened out this team would be absolutely unstoppable.

 

[TDOTSEAHAWK]

In my opinion he is a lot like Percy Harvin. Just has a better attitude and less talented (though Percy is just ultimately talented so it isn't much of a knock). Though I think he will be a better WR than Percy. Better route running etc.

 

[QuahHawk]

Tyler Lockett says "I want to go to a team that wants me"

Seahawks say "How about we trade our 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th for you"

They believe this kid is special and I do too. Watch this and tell me you are not a beliver

[youtube]194XtiyhN2I[/youtube]
https://youtu.be/194XtiyhN2I

 

[jake206]

Love his feet, but worried about his hands. He's prone to fumbling at times (8'3/8'' hand size) and uses body catch techinque rather than catching away from his frame.

 

[Spin Doctor]

In my opinion he is a lot like Percy Harvin. Just has a better attitude and less talented (though Percy is just ultimately talented so it isn't much of a knock). Though I think he will be a better WR than Percy. Better route running etc.

Don't think he is quite like Percy Harvin either. He can do some of the same things, but he also is a much better pure receiver than Harvin ever was. As a pure receiver Harvin was never that great. His route running was never that good, and he never was a deep threat. His value was as a dynamic playmaker. You could use Harvin in unconventional ways, and that confused defenses.

Lockett has the some of the same abilities, but he is much more polished as a receiver than Harvin ever was. Unlike Harvin I think Lockett has the potential as a deep threat, and he can run more conventional routes. Ultimately I think he will have the similar role, but I don't think he will be pegged to that role as firmly as Harvin was.

 

[kearly]

I really wish I had talked about Lockett more before the draft. The first time I watched him on youtube, his playmaking ability SCREAMED Seahawks to me right away. In my opinion, Tyler Lockett is the 2nd biggest pure playmaker in the entire draft behind only Breshad Perriman. And though it sucks that he's not much of an outside WR, he adds much needed explosiveness to Seattle's passing attack.

Add in his kick return and special teams ability, and his massive amount of college production, and this seemed like an obvious target for Seattle all along. The only part that threw me off was that due to being undersized, Lockett is probably a pure slot WR in the NFL, and Seattle already had Graham and Baldwin taking snaps in the slot. The slot position was already crowded, it was a strong outside WR that Seattle really needed.

But regardless, I really like this pick a lot. Seattle needed a playmaker and they needed a kick returner. Based on those two criteria, only Devin Smith would rate higher for me as a playmaker + KR.

To me, Tyler Lockett is Brandin Cooks minus the hype. I guess that's why the price tag doesn't bother me all that much. What a nice little player to throw in the mix at WR.