Predicting the NFC Final 6 at the halfway mark

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El Caliente":1fhvll4f said:
Don't sleep on the Saints. They have finally found a defense worth a damn, and as long as Drew Brees has air in his lungs, that offense will be deadly.

They are currently the 2nd best team in the NFL, and with them going into the toughest part of their schedule these next few weeks (@Bills, Redskins, @ Rams). If they can get through that going 2-1, then keep them in the #2 spot, because the rest of the season is just soft.


What about the Saints season has made you think they're better than the Rams right now?
 

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Ramfan128":1uw67ago said:
El Caliente":1uw67ago said:
Don't sleep on the Saints. They have finally found a defense worth a damn, and as long as Drew Brees has air in his lungs, that offense will be deadly.

They are currently the 2nd best team in the NFL, and with them going into the toughest part of their schedule these next few weeks (@Bills, Redskins, @ Rams). If they can get through that going 2-1, then keep them in the #2 spot, because the rest of the season is just soft.


What about the Saints season has made you think they're better than the Rams right now?

What about the Saints season has made you think they aren't better than the Rams right now?

I'm just going off of record. Both defenses are near equal (according to the numbers), and both offenses are near equal.
 

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El Caliente":2wb6yp78 said:
Ramfan128":2wb6yp78 said:
El Caliente":2wb6yp78 said:
Don't sleep on the Saints. They have finally found a defense worth a damn, and as long as Drew Brees has air in his lungs, that offense will be deadly.

They are currently the 2nd best team in the NFL, and with them going into the toughest part of their schedule these next few weeks (@Bills, Redskins, @ Rams). If they can get through that going 2-1, then keep them in the #2 spot, because the rest of the season is just soft.


What about the Saints season has made you think they're better than the Rams right now?

What about the Saints season has made you think they aren't better than the Rams right now?

I'm just going off of record. Both defenses are near equal (according to the numbers), and both offenses are near equal.


By the numbers, you're right about the defenses - but I think most people would agree that the Rams defense is better (DVOA certainly does).

Rams also have the best point differential in the NFL, and have just looked better than the Saints IMO.
 

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I was going to say that the Rams have played tougher competition than the Saints, but it looks like we have both been dominant vs some dog opponents.

It will be interesting to settle things in a few weeks, and see who is better.
 

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The Rams, are gonna be tough to beat. Possibly the toughest game on our remaining schedule.
 

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LOL the Saints are looking so much better than the Panthers and already blew them out in the Panther's own house! It's not even close!
 

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BlackandGolden":38g7lehw said:
The Rams, are gonna be tough to beat. Possibly the toughest game on our remaining schedule.

This seems the norm. The Saints fan comes here with humility and respect. The Panther and Ram (save for Alice) fans come with homer rose colored glasses.
 

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Panthers win moves us to the 6th seed. Fins let SCam run and pass all over them. They've been outscored 111-45 in their three primetime appearances this year and have another appearance on SNF schedule. They'd better flex that out really quickly.
 

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adeltaY":1ogvs8y1 said:
Panthers win moves us to the 6th seed. Fins let SCam run and pass all over them. They've been outscored 111-45 in their three primetime appearances this year and have another appearance on SNF schedule. They'd better flex that out really quickly.

If we win this week, we move back to the 5th seed. Carolina is only ahead of us because they have played 1 extra game. Carolina has a bye this week.
 

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adeltaY":1r0pwedj said:
Saints are better. Brees >>> Goff.


True, but then the Rams defense >>> Saints defense

Ironically, Goff's numbers put him in the same class as Brees and the Saints defensive numbers puts them in the same class as the Rams defense.

Historically Brees hasn't fared very well against us, but their running game is definitely a concern. The game is going to tell us how real the Saints defense is and how big of a problem the Rams run defense is.
 

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Numbers this year, yes. But we all know Brees is a proven elite QB. The Saints defense is pretty damn good this year, but it's not as good as the Rams'. Don't think the gap is as big as you're saying. Lattimore is a top corner in the league, Cameron Jordan has always been great, Okafor was a lowkey great signing, and their safety play has been excellent this year.

You're correct that Brees has struggled against the Rams, he's 3-4 with an 86.4 rating, which isn't that great. He did put up 49 points on y'all last season. Their OL has been great in pass pro, and even better against the run, ranking #1 in adjusted line yards. TBF the rams are #4 in ALY, which is also fantastic.

Should be a great game, but I'm taking the elite QB over Goff. Notice how many of Goff's TDs and big plays have come on screens. I'd actually argue he made more incredible throws against the Hawks, and that was in a loss.
 
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