Rams at Vikings, w/ Preview from CBS Sports

[Rex]

The Rams are called out for being dirty more often than other teams. I see them being BLATANTLY dirty just as Rex is being BLATANTLY ignorant in this case.

When you can't even admit that the total bullshit the Rams do is dirty, you're a blind homer. I lost what very little respect for you that I had. I challenge you to take the blinders off and pay attention to your dirty team when they are unpiling. It disgusting the way your team does that crap more than MOST teams. I knew you were challenged, but you're spinning more than Marvin ever has.

I'm not a blind homer. Joyner meant to hit Bridgewater since he was out of the pocket and past the LOS. EVERY DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE NFL IS GOING TO DO THE SAME IN THAT INSTANT. Joyner pulled up when he saw the QB slide instead of giving him the shoulder he tried to go over the QB while bracing his impact with the ground by his elbow.....which unfortunately made contact with the helmet. The hit to the head was unintentional. I'm not spinning anything.

We've been over this.

Joyner didnt leave his feet from his launch until AFTER Bridgwater slid.

If Joyner truly wanted to avoid contact, all he had to do was stay on his feet.

Simple as that.

Sure if it was happening in slow motion as you see it.....but it wasn't.....it was at full speed. Joyner is not a dirty player.

 

[Hawkpower]

The Rams are called out for being dirty more often than other teams. I see them being BLATANTLY dirty just as Rex is being BLATANTLY ignorant in this case.

When you can't even admit that the total bullshit the Rams do is dirty, you're a blind homer. I lost what very little respect for you that I had. I challenge you to take the blinders off and pay attention to your dirty team when they are unpiling. It disgusting the way your team does that crap more than MOST teams. I knew you were challenged, but you're spinning more than Marvin ever has.

I'm not a blind homer. Joyner meant to hit Bridgewater since he was out of the pocket and past the LOS. EVERY DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE NFL IS GOING TO DO THE SAME IN THAT INSTANT. Joyner pulled up when he saw the QB slide instead of giving him the shoulder he tried to go over the QB while bracing his impact with the ground by his elbow.....which unfortunately made contact with the helmet. The hit to the head was unintentional. I'm not spinning anything.

We've been over this.

Joyner didnt leave his feet from his launch until AFTER Bridgwater slid.

If Joyner truly wanted to avoid contact, all he had to do was stay on his feet.

Simple as that.

Sure if it was happening in slow motion as you see it.....but it wasn't.....it was at full speed. Joyner is not a dirty player.

Haha no.

Joyner doesnt even lean forward AT ALL until Bridewater's slide is engaged. Its not even close. Watch his feet. Teddy is almost upon him when he plants the second foot and lowers his head and elbow. He could have stopped, jumped, rolled to the side, etc. etc, etc.

He may not be a dirty player. But he took part in a dirty play, likely as instructed by his coach.

I can post the links again if you like. The entire NFL is tired of the Rams douchebaggery.

 

[Rex]

Haha no.

Joyner doesnt even lean forward AT ALL until Bridewater's slide is engaged. Its not even close. Watch his feet. Teddy is almost upon him when he plants the second foot and lowers his head and elbow. He could have stopped, jumped, rolled to the side, etc. etc, etc.

He may not be a dirty player. But he took part in a dirty play, likely as instructed by his coach.

I can post the links again if you like. The entire NFL is tired of the Rams douchebaggery.

"Teddy"? :roll: Yeah in slow motion it looks like he could do somersaults too. :roll: You can barely speak for yourself much less "the entire NFL". :177692:

 

[Hawkpower]

Haha no.

Joyner doesnt even lean forward AT ALL until Bridewater's slide is engaged. Its not even close. Watch his feet. Teddy is almost upon him when he plants the second foot and lowers his head and elbow. He could have stopped, jumped, rolled to the side, etc. etc, etc.

He may not be a dirty player. But he took part in a dirty play, likely as instructed by his coach.

I can post the links again if you like. The entire NFL is tired of the Rams douchebaggery.

"Teddy"? :roll: Yeah in slow motion it looks like he could do somersaults too. :roll: You can barely speak for yourself much less "the entire NFL". :177692:

You can start with these.


http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2015/11/8/ ... y-harrison

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/12/22/ ... suspension

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl-news/46 ... ridgewater

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/84022 ... louis-rams

http://sportsandgoal.com/nfl/breaking-t ... proved-it/

 

[rideaducati]

The Rams are called out for being dirty more often than other teams. I see them being BLATANTLY dirty just as Rex is being BLATANTLY ignorant in this case.

When you can't even admit that the total bullshit the Rams do is dirty, you're a blind homer. I lost what very little respect for you that I had. I challenge you to take the blinders off and pay attention to your dirty team when they are unpiling. It disgusting the way your team does that crap more than MOST teams. I knew you were challenged, but you're spinning more than Marvin ever has.

I'm not a blind homer. Joyner meant to hit Bridgewater since he was out of the pocket and past the LOS. EVERY DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE NFL IS GOING TO DO THE SAME IN THAT INSTANT. Joyner pulled up when he saw the QB slide instead of giving him the shoulder he tried to go over the QB while bracing his impact with the ground by his elbow.....which unfortunately made contact with the helmet. The hit to the head was unintentional. I'm not spinning anything.

And I wasn't speaking of JUST THE JOYNER HIT, that one just adds to what everyone except you already knows.

 

[chris98251]

Fined, the league has spoken, guilty as charged, no get out of jail free do not pass go but pay your 23,000 dollars.

 

[RichNhansom]

Fined, the league has spoken, guilty as charged, no get out of jail free do not pass go but pay your 23,000 dollars.

Game, set and match.

 

[Rex]

It was never in doubt he would be fined since there was contact. But the contact (especially to the head) was unintentional.

 

[Uncle Si]

It was never in doubt he would be fined since there was contact. But the contact (especially to the head) was unintentional.

Ridiculous. Not all personal fouls are fines. He was fined because he was reckless. He meant to hit him. Whether he wanted his head doesn't matter.

 

[253hawk]

He hit a QB that was sliding feet-first in the head; intent doesn't matter. If Teddy was diving head-first, it's a different story.

 

[Rex]

This what I've been saying all along.

Adrian Peterson doesn’t believe hit on Teddy Bridgewater was dirty

Posted by Mike Florio on November 10, 2015, 9:18 PM EST
Adrian Peterson
AP
Plenty of people believe the hit applied by Rams cornerback Lamarcus Joyner on Vikings quarterback Teddy Bridgewater was dirty. Vikings running back Adrian Peterson isn’t among those who do.

“Initial reaction, I actually just took off sprinting over there towards the Rams players because you know I seen it and it looked bad,” Peterson said on Monday’s PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio.“It looked dirty, but as I was over there kind of in the midst of those guys I wanted to watch the replay before I reacted and I do anything crazy but, you know, that is our guy. It appeared dirty but watching the replay I honestly feel, my opinion, that he didn’t target him. If he was targeting him he did a bad job of executing.

“I feel like it was a bang-bang play. Teddy slid; unfortunately his head came up. If his head’s flat, I think the guy’s shoulder misses but that’s not normally how a quarterbacks’s head is when he’s sliding. . . . It was still, though, you see the quarterback approaching you so you should you know he’s going to slide. You see him in his slide formation. You should just do a run by anyway and not put yourself in that position, but unfortunately for him he did, and it was upsetting to say the least.”

Peterson said he understands the concerns about the situation, given the history of Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. But Peterson prefers to view the situation as not calculated, not deliberate.

“Personally, you know, I like to see the best of people so I would say that wasn’t targeting based on me evaluating it with my eyes and really kind of making a sound judgement on it. It still wasn’t a smart play, and our quarterback was out for the rest of the game so that hurt us and it was a tough one. It was real close so I can see why opinions would sway to be it being intentional.”

 

[253hawk]

Yeah, not going to give much credence to someone who beats kids about their interpretation of intent.

 

[Uncle Si]

Yeah, not going to give much credence to someone who beats kids about their interpretation of intent.

citing one opinion giant letters seems to be the definition of winning a debate of late...

There are literally scores of people who have come out and said they believe the hit was dirty. Interestingly, one of the most outspoken is Teddy's coach, who is still pissed about it.

and even then, AP also said this: It was still, though, you see the quarterback approaching you so you should you know he’s going to slide. You see him in his slide formation. You should just do a run by anyway and not put yourself in that position, but unfortunately for him he did, and it was upsetting to say the least.”

If Joyner wasn't dirty, he was poorly coached and reckless. He was fined appropriately and many here in the Twin Cities believe he should have been suspended. I just wonder if it would make sense to post each of those arguments to somehow help Rex see how invalid a couple opinions can be if you've already made up your mind... regardless of font size.

the NFL fined him. Many, many people are now relating story after story about Fisher's antics as a Titans coach. No one here is changing anyone's mind. Regardless, the incident has brought many former and current players to suggest this is a very Fisher-esque event.

Most endemic of all is Fisher sitting on the competition committee, dedicating himself to rules around player safety, but hiring Greg Williams. The contradictions reveal all that is really necessary to know.

 

[rideaducati]

This what I've been saying all along.

Adrian Peterson doesn’t believe hit on Teddy Bridgewater was dirty

Posted by Mike Florio on November 10, 2015, 9:18 PM EST
Adrian Peterson
AP
Plenty of people believe the hit applied by Rams cornerback Lamarcus Joyner on Vikings quarterback Teddy Bridgewater was dirty. Vikings running back Adrian Peterson isn’t among those who do.

“Initial reaction, I actually just took off sprinting over there towards the Rams players because you know I seen it and it looked bad,” Peterson said on Monday’s PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio.“It looked dirty, but as I was over there kind of in the midst of those guys I wanted to watch the replay before I reacted and I do anything crazy but, you know, that is our guy. It appeared dirty but watching the replay I honestly feel, my opinion, that he didn’t target him. If he was targeting him he did a bad job of executing.

“I feel like it was a bang-bang play. Teddy slid; unfortunately his head came up. If his head’s flat, I think the guy’s shoulder misses but that’s not normally how a quarterbacks’s head is when he’s sliding. . . . It was still, though, you see the quarterback approaching you so you should you know he’s going to slide. You see him in his slide formation. You should just do a run by anyway and not put yourself in that position, but unfortunately for him he did, and it was upsetting to say the least.”

Peterson said he understands the concerns about the situation, given the history of Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. But Peterson prefers to view the situation as not calculated, not deliberate.

“Personally, you know, I like to see the best of people so I would say that wasn’t targeting based on me evaluating it with my eyes and really kind of making a sound judgement on it. It still wasn’t a smart play, and our quarterback was out for the rest of the game so that hurt us and it was a tough one. It was real close so I can see why opinions would sway to be it being intentional.”

Two wrongs doesn't mean you're right.

 

[Hawkpower]

This what I've been saying all along.

Adrian Peterson doesn’t believe hit on Teddy Bridgewater was dirty

Posted by Mike Florio on November 10, 2015, 9:18 PM EST
Adrian Peterson
AP
Plenty of people believe the hit applied by Rams cornerback Lamarcus Joyner on Vikings quarterback Teddy Bridgewater was dirty. Vikings running back Adrian Peterson isn’t among those who do.

“Initial reaction, I actually just took off sprinting over there towards the Rams players because you know I seen it and it looked bad,” Peterson said on Monday’s PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio.“It looked dirty, but as I was over there kind of in the midst of those guys I wanted to watch the replay before I reacted and I do anything crazy but, you know, that is our guy. It appeared dirty but watching the replay I honestly feel, my opinion, that he didn’t target him. If he was targeting him he did a bad job of executing.

“I feel like it was a bang-bang play. Teddy slid; unfortunately his head came up. If his head’s flat, I think the guy’s shoulder misses but that’s not normally how a quarterbacks’s head is when he’s sliding. . . . It was still, though, you see the quarterback approaching you so you should you know he’s going to slide. You see him in his slide formation. You should just do a run by anyway and not put yourself in that position, but unfortunately for him he did, and it was upsetting to say the least.”

Peterson said he understands the concerns about the situation, given the history of Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. But Peterson prefers to view the situation as not calculated, not deliberate.

“Personally, you know, I like to see the best of people so I would say that wasn’t targeting based on me evaluating it with my eyes and really kind of making a sound judgement on it. It still wasn’t a smart play, and our quarterback was out for the rest of the game so that hurt us and it was a tough one. It was real close so I can see why opinions would sway to be it being intentional.”

http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2015/11/8/ ... y-harrison

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/12/22/ ... suspension

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl-news/46 ... ridgewater

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/84022 ... louis-rams

http://sportsandgoal.com/nfl/breaking-t ... proved-it/

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

..........Most endemic of all is Fisher sitting on the competition committee, dedicating himself to rules around player safety, but hiring Greg Williams. The contradictions reveal all this really necessary to know.

Now wait a minute Si, Goodell is all about player safety first and foremost! I know this cuz he said so.
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[Uncle Si]

..........Most endemic of all is Fisher sitting on the competition committee, dedicating himself to rules around player safety, but hiring Greg Williams. The contradictions reveal all this really necessary to know.

Now wait a minute Si, Goodell is all about player safety first and foremost! I know this cuz he said so.
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the whole thing is a giant lie. I just don't get how a fan can suggest his team is the "toughest" in one thread, then completely ignore that fallacy in defending one of the players for acting as such..

I guess we all have certain hypocrisies in being NFL fans.. some just don't hide theirs well

 

[Rex]

This what I've been saying all along.

Adrian Peterson doesn’t believe hit on Teddy Bridgewater was dirty

Posted by Mike Florio on November 10, 2015, 9:18 PM EST
Adrian Peterson
AP
Plenty of people believe the hit applied by Rams cornerback Lamarcus Joyner on Vikings quarterback Teddy Bridgewater was dirty. Vikings running back Adrian Peterson isn’t among those who do.

“Initial reaction, I actually just took off sprinting over there towards the Rams players because you know I seen it and it looked bad,” Peterson said on Monday’s PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio.“It looked dirty, but as I was over there kind of in the midst of those guys I wanted to watch the replay before I reacted and I do anything crazy but, you know, that is our guy. It appeared dirty but watching the replay I honestly feel, my opinion, that he didn’t target him. If he was targeting him he did a bad job of executing.

“I feel like it was a bang-bang play. Teddy slid; unfortunately his head came up. If his head’s flat, I think the guy’s shoulder misses but that’s not normally how a quarterbacks’s head is when he’s sliding. . . . It was still, though, you see the quarterback approaching you so you should you know he’s going to slide. You see him in his slide formation. You should just do a run by anyway and not put yourself in that position, but unfortunately for him he did, and it was upsetting to say the least.”

Peterson said he understands the concerns about the situation, given the history of Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. But Peterson prefers to view the situation as not calculated, not deliberate.

“Personally, you know, I like to see the best of people so I would say that wasn’t targeting based on me evaluating it with my eyes and really kind of making a sound judgement on it. It still wasn’t a smart play, and our quarterback was out for the rest of the game so that hurt us and it was a tough one. It was real close so I can see why opinions would sway to be it being intentional.”

Two wrongs doesn't mean you're right.

Its Peterson's opinion and one which I agree.

 

[Rex]

..........Most endemic of all is Fisher sitting on the competition committee, dedicating himself to rules around player safety, but hiring Greg Williams. The contradictions reveal all this really necessary to know.

Now wait a minute Si, Goodell is all about player safety first and foremost! I know this cuz he said so.
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:sarcasm_off:

the whole thing is a giant lie. I just don't get how a fan can suggest his team is the "toughest" in one thread, then completely ignore that fallacy in defending one of the players for acting as such..

I guess we all have certain hypocrisies in being NFL fans.. some just don't hide theirs well

Yeah your hypocrisy is your "Legion of Boom".

 

[Hawkpower]

This what I've been saying all along.

Adrian Peterson doesn’t believe hit on Teddy Bridgewater was dirty

Posted by Mike Florio on November 10, 2015, 9:18 PM EST
Adrian Peterson
AP
Plenty of people believe the hit applied by Rams cornerback Lamarcus Joyner on Vikings quarterback Teddy Bridgewater was dirty. Vikings running back Adrian Peterson isn’t among those who do.

“Initial reaction, I actually just took off sprinting over there towards the Rams players because you know I seen it and it looked bad,” Peterson said on Monday’s PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio.“It looked dirty, but as I was over there kind of in the midst of those guys I wanted to watch the replay before I reacted and I do anything crazy but, you know, that is our guy. It appeared dirty but watching the replay I honestly feel, my opinion, that he didn’t target him. If he was targeting him he did a bad job of executing.

“I feel like it was a bang-bang play. Teddy slid; unfortunately his head came up. If his head’s flat, I think the guy’s shoulder misses but that’s not normally how a quarterbacks’s head is when he’s sliding. . . . It was still, though, you see the quarterback approaching you so you should you know he’s going to slide. You see him in his slide formation. You should just do a run by anyway and not put yourself in that position, but unfortunately for him he did, and it was upsetting to say the least.”

Peterson said he understands the concerns about the situation, given the history of Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. But Peterson prefers to view the situation as not calculated, not deliberate.

“Personally, you know, I like to see the best of people so I would say that wasn’t targeting based on me evaluating it with my eyes and really kind of making a sound judgement on it. It still wasn’t a smart play, and our quarterback was out for the rest of the game so that hurt us and it was a tough one. It was real close so I can see why opinions would sway to be it being intentional.”

Two wrongs doesn't mean you're right.

Its Peterson's opinion and one which I agree.

Thankfully, the NFL doesn't. A much deserved fine.