Random Thoughts™ on the Packers preseason game

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What better way to commemorate the worst officiated game of the replacement ref era with the worst officiated game of the 2013 preseason? I know, there aren't many things more irrelevant than preseason officiating, but I could probably do an entire writeup on just how bad the officiating was in this game. It's bugging me a lot, so I'm just going to hit on a few of them.

As a former OL who loved to block, nothing in all of pro sports pisses me off more than seeing a textbook block get punished for being suspiciously good. That happened at least twice in the first half, and both wiped out big gains for each running game.

The first was when JR Sweezy contained his assignment and created a hole that Marshawn Lynch rumbled through for about 15 yards. I did not see a handful of jersey on any of the angles, and Sweezy also had textbook hand placement. In football, there is a bit of an unwritten rule that if you have correct, legal hand placement, you can get away with a little. So even if Sweezy was holding, it's not a call that gets made in a real game 90% of the time, or 99% of the time in the playoffs. Seattle did overcome the penalty with a 1st down later on, but it really sucked seeing Sweezy and Lynch punished for a bad call.

The second was when new LT David Bahktiari put O'Brien Schofield on his back with a textbook run block. Lacy picked up 10-11 yards and the first, but it was called back on a phantom hold. Again, because "gee, if he put him on his back it must have been illegal DERP!" There was a lot of that in this game.

But in a game where phantom holds were flying left and right, it was a non-call that was the worst of them all. On 3rd and 10 in the second half, Jaye Howard owned the center at the snap and a sack on Vince Young was imminent. The center desperately grabbed Howard from behind, by the jersey I might add, yanked him back, and clearly slowed Howard enough for Young to get the pass off. It was completed for a first down (thanks to a generous spot). This was right in the middle of the action and didn't draw a flag. Appropriately, the only time Green Bay could score a TD against us involved a massive officiating gaffe.

There was also a terrible PI call on Sherman and later an insanely bad PI call that negated an interception by Blackmon.

There was the ultra late flag for "helmet to helmet" against Wagner that wasn't helmet to helmet at all.

Finally, there was a terrible call in our favor when one of our backup QBs drew a roughing the passer penalty on what I thought was a great individual (and clean) play by a GB blitzer.

I'm honestly not looking forward to re-watching this game because the officiating made me want to shot put furniture. If we see officiating like this in real games, be ready for a Keith Olbermann / John Morgan -esque tirade of rage.

Also, **** you Roger Goodell. You are ruining football with contact rules that are almost impossible to call accurately in real time. There, I feel a little better now.

Anyway, Seattle won. I won't lie, I had some serious doubts. But anyway, awesome. Three down, twenty to go.

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Ok, now to the stuff that actually matters somewhat. Keep in mind that this is pre-DVR study and some of my observations might change when I go more in-depth later.

Defense:

-Tony McDaniel looked an awful lot like Alan Branch out there, he's even wearing the same number (#99). Big bodied, very sturdy against the run, kind of slow, but powerful and savvy. He's not a terrific pass rusher but he created pressure a couple times tonight with power alone. Basically, he looked like the answer to our prayers in regards to finding an early downs run defender at the 3-tech. He looked like a guy that should be starting so long as Pete wants max run defense on 1st and 2nd downs.

-Richard Sherman was mediocre in week 2 and struggled tonight. Before getting nailed for a bogus PI he actually got away with a PI (which looked like the classic superstar treatment). He also whiffed on an open field tackle that would have forced a punt. Sherman is as consistent as he is good, so to see him have two off weeks in a row seems a bit strange. I'm sure he'll be fine. Off topic, check out the top comment from the Chargers-Seahawks game center. The guy claiming to be Richard Sherman in the Harbaugh thread a couple weeks ago? I wouldn't be surprised if it really was Sherman. I hope so, because it means Roland will hate himself forever if true.

-Michael Bennett left the game in the classic "I just got the wind knocked out of me pose," then as expected would later return to action. I'll have to watch him on DVR but he didn't seem to be as big a factor tonight as he was in games 1 and 2.

-Jaye Howard appeared to have a really nice game. Still stout against the run with some notable pressures. His effort seemed better tonight as well.

-I didn't watch him super close but Michael Brooks seemed to have a bit of an off night after looking great in weeks 1 and 2.

-Mebane continues to be a stud. He's been great in every game this preseason. If Mebane really was the vet DT worried about his job, then he is one seriously paranoid MOFO.

-Off topic... where on earth did Eddie Lacy's speed go? I know he ran a 4.64 forty at his pro-day, but he looked fast at Alabama playing against some NFL caliber defensive talent. In this game he looked like TJ Duckett.

-Seattle's defense loves to face big, lumbering RBs. Seattle's run defense looked terrific with 1st team, 2nd team, 3rd team units out there. Green Bay had just 75 yards rushing on 23 carries, and if you take Vince Young's scrambles out, the Packers had just 36 yards rushing on 20 carries (1.8 yards per carry). Taking Rodgers out after just one series obviously helps, especially since Green Bay's backups are a mixed bag at best. Vince Young is clearly their best backup QB.

-Didn't watch Mayowa super close but they seemed to be using him this game as a Bruce-Irvin type situational rusher. Smart. Edit: Mayowa was our every down DE for the first several drives.

-Schofield had another above average performance. He was probably a lock for the roster on day 1, but he's earning it out there.

-Clinton McDonald misplayed the run on the same play that Bahktiari was punished for a phantom hold. That mistake aside, McDonald had a solid outing and could be a very tough cut next week.

-Bruce Irvin finally appeared this preseason and did so with style, making an emphatic TFL on an outside run.

-Tough game for Lotulelei who had a legit late hit called against him and no standout positive plays to compensate.

-Tough game for Bradford too. He's normally great at making open field tackles, but he flopped on a routine tackle attempt which (IIRC) resulted in a first down, and on the next play he had a would be interception ricochet off his hands. On replay it actually looked like a tough pass to haul in, but it's the kind of play Wagner and Wright almost always make with their soft hands and alert ball skills. Bradford did have one nice defensive stop near the sideline.

-I was barely paying attention to him, but Jeron Johnson kept getting screen time which I assume means he was making plays.

-Winston Guy really helped his cause with a clutch forced fumble late in the game.

Overall thoughts on defense:

I'm pretty excited about it. If you remember the fail mary game last year, the Packers had to revert to a low-output dink and dunk offense in the 2nd half because of pressure, and you could see that they were still in that mode during Aaron Rodgers only drive. It's good coaching by McCarthy, because Seattle's defense is designed to give up those plays, but at the same time, don't expect to score 30 in a game doing that. Also, don't expect dink and dunk to score more than 10 points in a game if you rush for 1.8 yards per carry. Small sample size, but our defense appears to have Aaron Rodgers figured out, whereas Manning and Brady looked pretty hard to stop in their outings against us.

I think the run defense will be more than fine. McDaniel is exactly the guy we needed for that Branch role. Red Bryant looks like 2011 Red Bryant again. Howard is a stout run defender. So is McDonald if he makes the team.

I think the pass rush did well considering the opponent and the players we are missing. If a GB QB ever had 5 seconds to throw, without scrambling, I don't remember it.

Offense:

-Need to look at OL closely on DVR. Off the cuff, it looked like the sacks happened because of some poor RB blitz pickups and because of some HERPADERP scrambling decisions that led to sacks. There have been at least 3 times this preseason where Wilson got caught from behind for the sack, two of them by big lineman who should have had no business catching him. Wilson has been cutting it close on some of his scrambles and teams are getting better at punishing him for it. We actually saw evidence of this late last season in the Rams game, so it's a become a bit of a trend.

-Run blocking seemed to be as good as it usually is after a tough 1st drive.

-Seattle's offense, or at least Russell Wilson, seem to be very weak vs. the delayed blitz. It's been a big problem this preseason, and it was an issue in the regular season last year too. Seattle only rarely calls screens and doesn't feature a ton of quick hit type passes, so teams have been taking advantage with delayed blitzing. Our blitz pickup is sub-par, and Wilson tends to panic (justifiably) against them. We also run a lot of empty backfield, which welcomes the blitz.

-Jermaine Kearse had a nice looking 9 yard catch and threw a monster block to help spring Christine Michael on his 43 yard TD.

-After 3 preseason games, Stephen Williams has 31 yards per reception, and if my official target tally is correct, he's at an astronomical 20.3 yards per target. He's also got 3 TD's on 6 catches, one per game. He's like a WR created in a laboratory to play in a Bruce Arians styled "**** it, go deep!" offense, and the irony is, he's here in the first place because Bruce Arians of all people didn't give him a chance. The thing about new coaches and new GMs, sometimes good players get lost inexplicably during those transitions.

Williams had a "wow" inducing catch and run for a first down on 3rd and long. When he caught it, I didn't think he had any chance of making it, but apparently he's got some wheels after the catch. It might have been against scrubs, but still, impressive stuff.

If Williams can keep this up and gets decent play time during the regular season, he could end up the NFL's weirdest fantasy football starter. He is so hard to defend deep- I could see him getting 10 TDs on just 30 catches.

-All of our RBs looked great out there. Lynch had a nice run taken away by a phantom hold, but seemed to maximize yardage on every carry. Robert Turbin ran stronger and appeared to have tied his shoes before this game. He finished with 5 yards a carry. Christine Michael put the offense on his back and pretty much stole the show in the 2nd half. Even the impartial Phil Simms was clearly blown away by Michael's display of athleticism. Michael wasn't just ripping off big plays. It seemed like every time a Seahawks RB turned a no-win situation into something interesting, it was #33 getting up out of the pile afterwards. Great night for our RBs, except in protection. Both Turbin and Michael had brutal whiffs in pass protection that led to sacks. In Turbin's defense, he was up against Clay Matthews.

Michael finished with 97 yards rushing and a TD on just 11 carries. He also caught a screen pass and took it 25 yards before being brought down. Also, and this is very, very important, Michael has yet to fumble in the preseason. If this guy isn't getting at least 5-10 carries a game this season I will cry bloody murder.

-The difference between Quinn and T-Jack is enormous, IMO. Tjack has looked very good for us this preseason. Quinn looks like the kind of super flawed backup QB every other team seems to have. Even on the deep TD throw Quinn had tonight to Williams, the ball was under-thrown and would have probably been picked off by a good ball hawking corner.

-Willson and McGrath had nice games. Mike Person saw a lot of time as a "blocking TE." Which is funny because right before the game I was just thinking about how badly Seattle needs a pure blocking TE right now. Person didn't look that great as a blocker though, sadly. Maybe we should convert Alvin Bailey or Michael Bowie to "TE" a few snaps a game.

-Arceto Clark has had a decent preseason. If he makes our PS, it wouldn't shock me.

-Doug Baldwin had a couple of big catches early in this game. As an aside, I have never seen a better WR who bobbles more catches than Baldwin does.

-I hated the Chris Harper pick, and even though he's had just 3 catches spread out in 3 preseason games- all for piddly yardage- I'm starting to become a fan of his. He looks to have solid hands (small sample size) and can be a bit of a pain to bring down. When he is targeted, he looks wide open. Most importantly, he looks the part physically of a starting NFL WR. Whether he makes our roster or not, I hope he's still around next preseason.

-Russell Wilson looked vintage in the first drive, then seemed to regress in a hurry and finished with a fairly awful performance overall. Granted, his first interception was of the classic Wilson variety. I'm guessing 25% of batted balls get intercepted on average, but if feels like at least 50% of Wilson's batted balls do. He ended up with some bad throws though including a terrible overthrow for an interception. Oh well, at least he wasn't overthrowing the majority of his intermediate to deep passes like last week. I also didn't like some of the sacks he took, particularly the one where a massive looking DL just reached out and grabbed him on the move. That said, I think the penalties REALLY hurt Seattle's offense all night and I'm sure that had an impact on Wilson's rhythm and put Bevell into long distance play calling situations he's not really suited for.

Overall thoughts on the offense:

I am starting to feel legitimate concern over Wilson's preseason struggles and inconsistency. On the other hand, it's kind of insane how good our offense can look at times even without Rice, Harvin, or Miller out there. Penalties have been a major issue, but it might just be terrible preseason officiating and terrible officiating is going to bite us harder than most teams because of the style of our OL and defense.

Special teams:

Another good outing for the special teams unit. Jeremy Lane had some nice returns. Kick coverage was excellent once again.

On the downside, no sooner does Scottemojo talk up Will Blackmon as a KR that Blackmon goes out there and looks slow and indecisive returning kicks (some of the players I've talked up sucked too, so don't feel bad). Golden Tate looked like he was running sideways during his return effort. Seattle could have been a bit better on the KR front tonight.

Miscellaneous observations:

-Pete looked pretty ticked off during the second half when the sloppy play, penalties, and turnovers continued. Win or not, I'm guessing the team got an earful afterwards.

-Green Bay should be worried about their running game.

-One of my favorite late round prospects in the 2013 draft, Micah Hyde, had a pretty nice game for Green Bay.

-Something about Seattle's starting offense just seems off this preseason. Too often Wilson looks uncomfortable out there, and offensive penalties have been plaguing the first team in a big way. I wouldn't be shocked if Wilson gets off to a slow start in the regular season like he did last year. Whether it's rust or something else, there have been concerning signs, though it will probably help when we get Rice and Miller back.

-Siliga looks ultra slow, like, maybe too slow to be in the NFL even as a NT. Funny that he of all people somehow got a sack. I also love that his jersey number is #74, as if the team wanted him to be a living reminder of the Moffitt trade.

-IIRC, after Stephen Williams caught a deep bomb for a touchdown, announcer Ian Eagle chimed in with "no simultaneous catch here." Awesome.
 

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That first down that vince young had I wanted them to challenge it so bad. Yeah he had the ball in his hands in first down territory. Where did his feet land, not in first down territory. I can see it live, and I am sure most of you could. Who is in charge of replays?

The Blackmon call was like yeah maybe it could go either way, but you have already flagged the seahawks for 150 yards can you please stop?
 

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Bakhtiari CLEARLY held. Watch it again. You didn't watch through the whole play if you didn't see it. He did have correct hand placement at first, but Schofield turned upfield and his arms moved to the side and were more outstretched. This prevented Schofield from making the tackle. If it had happened on the right side (opposite the run) it wouldn't have been called. But he was holding onto a guy and preventing him from spinning into the ball carrier.

It was not a well officiated game, and I wondered about that block in the initial play. But on the replay it was clear as day. I'm surprised that thinking that because you engage a guy "legally" and grab under his pads that it is allowed all the time. It isn't.... when it prevents a tackle and impacts the play. That's always how it has been called, and it is how it always should be called. Involved in the play? Disengage before jersey stretch happens and the guy moves upfield as the play moves past. It's all about having the intelligence and technique to know when to release. If he had abandoned the block at the right point then his runner still would have had the chance to break Schofield's tackle, and if not, he still likely would have gained 5 yards.

I played OL as well, and we were taught to engage, and then disengage to avoid getting stung. That's precisely what happened on this play you referenced.
 
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I'll watch it again, but I saw it twice and it looked clean both times. I was taught that if you have good hand placement, refs will typically give you the benefit of the doubt. I've heard NFL lineman repeat that mantra several times as well. It is an axiom in the NFL that holding occurs on almost every play, but isn't called most of the time.

I think Bahktiari got flagged because Schofield flailed his arms and went to the ground. But I never saw a hold. Sometimes if it looks fishy refs will call it even if a hold never happened. Sweezy looked fishy too, but on replay he looked clean with proper hand placement. In fact, I think Sweezy probably did hold considering how he kept the defender from moving with just his hand use, but it was one of the "every play and usually isn't called" variety. In the playoffs, where officials have become ultra conservative in recent years, neither would have been flagged, I'm sure.

I hate it in both football and basketball when officials call a tight game, and tonight they were ultra aggressive with the laundry.
 

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Good write-up. My quick thoughts:

Loved the first drive's offense. After that it sputtered. Wilson was off, but had some unlucky breaks and some poor pass blocking.

Loved pretty much all aspects of the defense. A few bad plays, but overall very solid unit.

Michael is mannnnnnnnnnnn. Legitimate. He is Beastmode 2.0. I'd like to see him against first stringers a whole game or two, but based on tonight's output, I'd alternate starting games with him and Marshawn to keep 'em both fresh and hungry. He's definitely the future.

Was not as impressed with Turbin yet again. I'd put Michael above him on the depth chart based on all the preseason games so far. He had some nice plays, but Michael beasted the hell out of that game running and catching.

Unlike Kip, I loved the Harper pick in the draft, but have been less than impressed with him in preseason. Don't even remember him playing this game, and I was kinda looking for him.

Kearse and Williams will be the last two receivers to make the 53.

I'd rather be testing Vince Young as our 3rd stringer than Brady Quinn. Vince Young is at least a poor man's Tarvaris Jackson. Touchdown aside, Quinn looked like hot ass.

Pete is 2 & 0 when throwing the red flag. And perfect when opting not to as I recall.

Tate looked genuinely hurt when he didn't make that big catch. I could tell he really, REALLY wanted that one. Oh well. He'll make it when it counts.

The offense looks to start slow on the season and the defense fast. Similar to last year, but probably with a quicker start than we had then. Looks like we're picking back up where we left off.

Penalties sucked, but that's what it is. Sloppiness needs to be addressed, and it will be. The whole game had a "I know you're used to mauling opponents and running up the score, Seahawks, but this is the NFL, and every team is pretty damn good." It was a good wake-up call for the team in general. Lots of areas to be addressed, while not showing any real signs of holy-crap-fix-it-now danger.
 

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As someone who has been a fan of NFL football since the 80s, the referees' current penchant for shooting up the field with rounds of yellow hankies out of their invisible gatling guns is beginning to suffocate the life out of the game for me. The suffocation started last year and looks to be even more stifling this year. With nearly every play is now an automatic mental "and the player to get flagged is..." -- usually there is one, sometimes shocking those times there isn't. It didn't use to be that way.
 

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kearly":24nw3p5o said:
I'll watch it again, but I saw it twice and it looked clean both times. I was taught that if you have good hand placement, refs will typically give you the benefit of the doubt. I've heard NFL lineman repeat that mantra several times as well. It is an axiom in the NFL that holding occurs on almost every play, but isn't called most of the time.

I think Bahktiari got flagged because Schofield flailed his arms and went to the ground. But I never saw a hold. Sometimes if it looks fishy refs will call it even if a hold never happened. Sweezy looked fishy too, but on replay he looked clean with proper hand placement. In fact, I think Sweezy probably did hold considering how he kept the defender from moving with just his hand use, but it was one of the "every play and usually isn't called" variety. In the playoffs, where officials have become ultra conservative in recent years, neither would have been flagged, I'm sure.

I hate it in both football and basketball when officials call a tight game, and tonight they were ultra aggressive with the laundry.

It looked to me that Schofield tried to disengage away from Bahktieri and got held by the jersey. I thought it was a hold as well.

I think Wilson looks bad right now because teams are getting a ton of pressure up the middle against our below average pass blocking Guards. In real time I saw both Sweezy and McQuistan get owned in pass pro. Pressure up the middle screws most QBs; I'd assume it would be worse for a 5'11" QB looking for throwing lanes.

I was very impressed with that crossing route by Williams.

I thought our ST looked like crap out there. Way too many flags against us. Tate had that monster punt return....DERP! called back on a flag. It's like our guys don't even try to hide block in the back.

I agree that Quinn just didn't look comfy out there. I think he'd be fine as a backup, but TJack has clearly reached a different comfort zone now that he doesn't have expectations to carry the team, and he's killing it. Maybe going to football purgatory, then coming back to Seattle has changed his mindset.

Agreed on the bad calls, and I sure hope it's just a preseason thing. We're averaging something like 21 total penalties in all of our games; it's gonna make regular season games into 4 hour affairs.

I think both Guards are having a poor preseason. What's your take Kearly ? I'm having some buyer's remorse about Moffit right now. Jeanepierre didn't look at that great and when Sweezy got pulled for his Breno moment, Rishaw Johnson came in and looked to dominate in the run game.
 

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Kearly, great write-up as usual; but I am at a loss as to what you're referring to in regards to me. Can you link the thread where I apparently said/did something against someone claiming to be Richard Sherman? I'm not denying it, I just honestly cannot recall anything remotely like what you're referring to.
 

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kearly":2chc5sq2 said:
I'll watch it again, but I saw it twice and it looked clean both times. I was taught that if you have good hand placement, refs will typically give you the benefit of the doubt. I've heard NFL lineman repeat that mantra several times as well. It is an axiom in the NFL that holding occurs on almost every play, but isn't called most of the time.

I think Bahktiari got flagged because Schofield flailed his arms and went to the ground. But I never saw a hold. Sometimes if it looks fishy refs will call it even if a hold never happened. Sweezy looked fishy too, but on replay he looked clean with proper hand placement. In fact, I think Sweezy probably did hold considering how he kept the defender from moving with just his hand use, but it was one of the "every play and usually isn't called" variety. In the playoffs, where officials have become ultra conservative in recent years, neither would have been flagged, I'm sure.

I hate it in both football and basketball when officials call a tight game, and tonight they were ultra aggressive with the laundry.

You're right there with me...I think it is that we saw the very end differently. Bak had him locked up properly. The "unwritten rule" also states that if the guy you are locked on is straight up going man on man and isn't involved in the play... then no flag. If you're locked up and he doesn't need to make a direction change and you stay locked, (even if the runner goes by both of you) then it isn't called. This one was funny (as in strange), because he didn't have good leverage and the hold stood out, (most likely to the line judge) because Schofield had the strength to turn to the runner. Because the shirt grab was enough to prevent Schofield from getting his arms on the runner as he shot through, then I feel you do have to throw the flag, since the additional yardage resulted in a big first down and extended the run.

As Schofield turns and spins out and heads toward the ground in his attempt to tackle, Bakh simply needed to release his front jersey and pads, and then pancake him as Schofield went to the turf as Bakh had the advantage being upright over him. Not a huge issue, but it's technically a hold because the ball went through Schofield's gap and he was prevented from making the play (as best a referee can assume from his view to the side).

Great post by you as the usual. Sorry I didn't get a compliment in earlier when I posted on here.
 
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RolandDeschain":e8j4pz0d said:
Kearly, great write-up as usual; but I am at a loss as to what you're referring to in regards to me. Can you link the thread where I apparently said/did something against someone claiming to be Richard Sherman? I'm not denying it, I just honestly cannot recall anything remotely like what you're referring to.

link.
 
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SharkHawk":1vseorx0 said:
a bunch of stuff

I'll be sure to check again on the DVR review. I agree with your point about a defender being directly across vs. skewed. If a defender is skewed to a side, refs tend to be a bit more trigger happy with those calls.
 

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Ohhhh, that. Uh, I really hope it wasn't the real Sherman. Even if it is, it would seem to be contradictory to Sherman's public comments about Harbaugh, but I'm not going to take anything back if it does turn out to be the real Sherman just because it was really him. I say what I say, and I'm not a backtracking weasel just because it turns out that what I said was to a celebrity. I think Rock should weigh in with a clue here, lol.

If it really is the real Sherman, you're my favorite Seahawk (I'm on record saying that in the past, not kissing ass now) and I love your play and your mouth, so hopefully no hard feelings. :)
 

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kearly":399v3q7y said:
RolandDeschain":399v3q7y said:
Kearly, great write-up as usual; but I am at a loss as to what you're referring to in regards to me. Can you link the thread where I apparently said/did something against someone claiming to be Richard Sherman? I'm not denying it, I just honestly cannot recall anything remotely like what you're referring to.

link.

Unless "Richard Sherman" is Superman (and I'm not counting that out...) and can fly across the United States in 3.5 seconds, he wasn't in Green Bay this evening, but rather playing the 49ers.
 

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Three games now that Wilson is holding the ball interminably. Reminds me of T-Jack two years ago. Perhaps Pete's enormous emphasis on protecting the ball has him a little gun shy? The second pick looked like the WR quit on the route, though still an ill advised pass.

Luke Willson did a nice job blocking - again.

Not seeing any pressure at all apart from the occasional stunt. Blitzes aren't getting home. Glad our secondary rules.

Sweezy looks weezy which makes me queasy. Is he actually competent? And, can we maybe bring the old 74 back? He wasn't spectacular but he knew how to block.

Christine Michael runs angrier than Marshawn. The reception was his best play. Tough catch thanks to Quinn. He made it look routine. What a talent. He finished with the crown of his helmet on that play. No penalty?

Refs are clearly confused. The NFL is so worried about lawsuits and projecting safety that "ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION" is the ref's new mantra and ERR they have. It's making games unwatchable.

Great writeup, Kearly. Thanks.
 

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Thunderhawk":k3217ts1 said:
Three games now that Wilson is holding the ball interminably. Reminds me of T-Jack two years ago. Perhaps Pete's enormous emphasis on protecting the ball has him a little gun shy? The second pick looked like the WR quit on the route, though still an ill advised pass.

I think it's that our WRs aren't getting separation.
 
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