Tical21":2qe2m0a1 said:
Oh, hogwash. Huge difference between Russ and just about all the other guys on that list...they push the ball into the zone. Completion percentage and passer rating are always going to favor guys that are afraid to make mistakes and would rather hold the ball and take a sack than drive the ball into the teeth of a zone. Russ had a 123 passer rating against the Rams last week, while making crucial mistakes on important downs and failing to drive the ball down the field.
You have the all-22? Pick a game, any game, and only watch the plays that we play against zone defense, and tell me Russell Wilson is an elite quarterback. Don't worry, I'll wait.
He's a fantastic weapon. He's great at not making mistakes. He's an incredibly accurate passer and is very resilient. You can win with him. But higher level quarterbacking from a mental point of view, he just isn't there, not even close.
What are Wilson's passing & rushing stats against zone coverage from 2015-2018?
What are the other "elite" guys passing & rushing stats against zone coverage from 2015-2018?
You need to bring this information forward to counter the information I brought forward. I am not interested in a small cherry picked sample size from 1 guy w/no context of how the other guys are performing. I want the numbers from 2015-2018 from all of the QBs mentioned to back up your claim.
Otherwise all the snaps they have taken (The entire picture) since 2015 will have to suffice.
Also to despite your critique, which I agree with to a certain extent, he ultimately produces like them. Over a 50-ish game stretch.
I am not cherry picking 10 games here. I am even factoring in his worst statistical season (injured) 2016.
Especially when he manages to keep up production wise behind Cable O-Lines. When statistically it is clear, better O-Line play = better QB production.
Would you keep those Cable O-Lines over what the Packers, Patriots, and Saints have had 2015-2018?
Who would you rank Bevell over from the other Elite QB's play callers, and offensive staffs? A guy no would touch with a 10 foot pole this off-season with many openings, yet couldn't get a job.
Given the circumstances it is pretty impressive to the say the least.
How does he consistently out play QBs in the 4th qtr when the game is on the line, if he is flawed? Guys like that get exposed, their luck runs out eventually.
Yet here Wilson is all these years later still doing it.