Seahawks re-signing Brandon Browner

[jammerhawk]

I envision him as a TE covering specialist. And we face a few good ones this year.

Ever since I heard about this re-signing I've been thinking that perhaps this is the team's answer to the TE seam route blues. He'd then play a type of hybrid CB/S/LB (death backer) role. It's an interesting re-signing, somewhat akin to Clemons situation.

Seems like a reasonable re-signing for a player who will likely bring back or reinforce some team toughness and physicality, if he shows he can still make the team. I really have little doubt that will happen despite the views a few others have here. Doesn't seem as if the team paid too much for him either and he knows his role here.

Nice thing about this signing is again he was a N.O. team cut and so won't be regarded as UDFA signing that will affect any Comp picks.

 

[Jimjones0384]

Just read an interesting article about BB from espn. One thing they pointed out, was Sean Peyton confirming the poor overall play of the defense affected browner. He compared it to a quarterback who isn't allowed eno ugh time to make proper reads. The second thing I found very intriguing, they proposed maybe BB could be used in specialized situations, say covering opposing stud tight ends and big recievers. They pointed out how his best moments last year came against big recievers. The two they used as reference were Calvin Johnson and DeAndre hopkins. Like I said, it is intriguing in my opinion.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Just read an interesting article about BB from espn. One thing they pointed out, was Sean Peyton confirming the poor overall play of the defense affected browner. He compared it to a quarterback who isn't allowed eno ugh time to make proper reads. The second thing I found very intriguing, they proposed maybe BB could be used in specialized situations, say covering opposing stud tight ends and big recievers. They pointed out how his best moments last year came against big recievers. The two they used as reference were Calvin Johnson and DeAndre hopkins. Like I said, it is intriguing in my opinion.

For sure, Browner if he makes the team would be great in 1st and 2nd down run stopping..........which is really his biggest strength, manhandling receivers to get penetration and tackling.

Not sure about the TE coverage, he'd had to drop inside and use his hips and quickness? Two of his worst attributes IMO.

 

[McGruff]

I agree, great nostalgic pick. I loved BB and was hurt when he couldn't stay off the weed and got canned. I don't think it can be overstated how bad of a defense the saints were last year. It would be ideal to have him start opposite of sherman and slide lane over to the slot. If he plays well, then we have some serious depth at db. He was a legit player, he wouldn't have started oppositelling of Revis, let alone for the hawks for there superbowl. Belicheck has rbs that fumble twice and never plays again, lol. Having thomas over the top is the difference maker here. Really, think back in recent past. He is one of the only dbs to leave here and find success.

I like Browner. I like the presence he brings.

But there is no way he starts over Lane. As a pure cover guy, inside and out, Lane is the best corner we've ever had opposite Sherman. No one else is even close.

 

[McGruff]

Just read an interesting article about BB from espn. One thing they pointed out, was Sean Peyton confirming the poor overall play of the defense affected browner. He compared it to a quarterback who isn't allowed eno ugh time to make proper reads. The second thing I found very intriguing, they proposed maybe BB could be used in specialized situations, say covering opposing stud tight ends and big recievers. They pointed out how his best moments last year came against big recievers. The two they used as reference were Calvin Johnson and DeAndre hopkins. Like I said, it is intriguing in my opinion.

That's what I am think8ng. A spot starter against specialized players. Lane is our everyday guy, though.

 

[kearly]

I thought Browner and Clemons looked done even before 2015.

I generally don't like moves like these because I don't trust teams to think rationally with old players they like. We've seem it countless times with the Mariners where they brought in old veterans way past their prime for spring training invites, then got duped by a meaningless Spring Training hot streak, and then gave them meaningful reps in real games, resulting in players who were among the most harmful, sub-replacement level players in baseball. The justification for this mistake was always the same. "They're locker room guys!"

So far Pete has been good at avoiding this type of mistake. I hope he can put emotions aside and judge Clemons and Browner by how much they have left in the tank, and not on how much he likes them in the locker room. If they show legitimate signs of resurgence then it's okay to roll the dice with them on the final roster, otherwise it would be better to thank them and say goodbye.

 

[WarHawks]

Great! Can he play left tackle?

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I thought Browner and Clemons looked done even before 2015.

I generally don't like moves like these because I don't trust teams to think rationally with old players they like. We've seem it countless times with the Mariners where they brought in old veterans way past their prime for spring training invites, then got duped by a meaningless Spring Training hot streak, and then gave them meaningful reps in real games, resulting in players who were among the most harmful, sub-replacement level players in baseball. The justification for this mistake was always the same. "They're locker room guys!"

So far Pete has been good at avoiding this type of mistake. I hope he can put emotions aside and judge Clemons and Browner by how much they have left in the tank, and not on how much he likes them in the locker room. If they show legitimate signs of resurgence then it's okay to roll the dice with them on the final roster, otherwise it would be better to thank them and say goodbye.

What would give you a reason to think Pete and John make emotional decisions?

Maybe "hey we respect the hell out of what you guys meant to this team so we're going to give you every chance to make this team" type of decisions. Which is exactly what I think bringing both Clemons and Browner back is all about.

But emotional? Hell no, there's no history to tell us otherwise. Emotional decision would have meant;

- overpaying to keep Tate
- not cutting guys like Red Bryant, zach miller, etc
- keeping a team leader like Max Unger
- starting Matt Flynn over Wilson
- caving into Kam's holdout
- Releasing M-Rob

Many other examples, but if there's one thing we do know about Pete and John.............they respect and admire the hell out of their players, but they DO NOT have one sentimental bone in their bodies when it come to making emotional decisions that may hurt the team.

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

^^^ Agreed, they will either be Antoine Winfield or Kevin Williams. Depth will either move them off the roster or they'll play thier way on it.

Either way from now to 53 man cut downs you cant discount what these guys bring in terms of nastiness, physicality, and toughness and getting that mindset and thier experience to rub off the younger players.

In Clemons case, if they want Clark to be the new LEO, Bennett and Avril havent really played that role here. Its been Clemons and Irvin, so having Clemon being able to help mentor Clark in that role is a good thing.

For a secondary having lost its physicality over the last 2 years, Browner could help bring some of that back even if he doesnt make the final roster. His type of play and attitude rubs off onto other players. Hes a brute and a bully, if other players can learn to instill that on thier game, the Seahawks get better.

 

[jake206]

He'll be a good player to have against TE heavy teams like the Patriots. Bennett and Gronk...you want someone that can match up with both... with Kam, Browner and Bwagz...we have 3.

 

[Hawk-A-Loogie]

I just wonder if there will be any locker room problems with Lane starting over Browner. Browner has to prove himself back into the roster. Just hoping the LOB originals thing won't be an issue among certain players.

 

[HawkGA]

This may have been brought up already, but could he back up Kam?

 

[Jerhawk]

I just wonder if there will be any locker room problems with Lane starting over Browner. Browner has to prove himself back into the roster. Just hoping the LOB originals thing won't be an issue among certain players.

Good point. But I'm confident these guys have bought into the whole "always compete " approach. If they're upset about someone not starting for any reasons other than performance, then they don't understand what this organization is all about.

 

[chris98251]

Love this signing. Browner is one of my favorite Seahawks of all time. You really could only appreciate what the guy was doing by being at the games because a lot of his physicality wasn't captured on tv. He would somehow get away with beating the crap out of receivers on every play. Kam and him made teams scared to play us because we were literally going to beat them down on the field.

Darth Browner............

 

[Hawks46]

I wouldn't be surprised of this was more about locker room mentality, like many have surmised.

Look at the options though; Kam was hurt a lot last year, and Lane has a history of being nicked up.

Browner could probably beat Shead out, he can start if Lane gets hurt, and if last year was about injuries, heck he might push Lane back inside.

If they want to make him a SS, like I said, Kam has been nicked up a lot the last 2 years. Browner at SS probably is better than McCray.

And watching those clips of him blowing up 3 Cardinals, as well as Welker never gets old.

 

[Anonymous]

I just wonder if there will be any locker room problems with Lane starting over Browner. Browner has to prove himself back into the roster. Just hoping the LOB originals thing won't be an issue among certain players.

I say they move him inside this year to lay the wood across the middle in support of Kam via the Nickle and Dime. Lane and Sherm have the corner positions locked.

 

[SmokinHawk]

I could not be more stoked about this signing. We got the best out of BB when he was playing hungry. We all know deep down that he missed playing with his brothers, and dude would die before letting any one of them down.

Brandon Browner is one of the meanest, nastiest sonsabitches to ever put on a Seahawks uniform. What he lacks in straight line speed he makes in solid tackling, jamming, and hitting. He will also have one of the best safeties in all of football watching his back, allowing him to take more risks.

Do not be surprised if Brandon Browner excels in a limited or specialized role, similarly to how Kam Chancellor played in his rookie season. I'd even expect to see him lined up out wide on occasion, following a TE around.

 

[Basis4day]

I just wonder if there will be any locker room problems with Lane starting over Browner. Browner has to prove himself back into the roster. Just hoping the LOB originals thing won't be an issue among certain players.

No. Lane has been with the team since 2012 and already had to fill in with Maxwell during BB's suspensions and occasional benchings.

 

[morgulon1]

Browner had as much to do with the mindset of the LOB as anyone. I am a fan and hope he stays and makes a positive impact getting us back in the SB.

He cant help break up one of Russell Wilson's passes at the goal line this time.

 

[Grahamhawker]

BB just BAAAAAAAD.


And that might be enough.