SEC DPOTY: Michael Sam announced he is gay

[Scottemojo]

I don't know a lot about him but read he was good in coverage and would make a great OLB. He's predicted to go in rounds 3 to 5 and while he's not a show-stopper, he can be a good rotational player. I'll be interested to see what his times are at the Combine.

I'm curious about his combine times too, but I heard he was actually really bad in coverage during senior bowl practices (which isn't the biggest of deals, a guy who has only played DE in college should not be expected to look smooth after one day of practice at OLB).
One thing I never saw him do at Mizzou was cover in space. Never.

 

[joeseahawks]

If the kid can play and if he can help the Seahawks win ball games, I would say ... draft him and let him compete. All the excuses about locker room issues (some people call it baggage or instability) are just excuses.
Lots of people always try to justify bigotry, hate and prejudice. If you aren't old enough to know what segregation did to this country, check out the Jackie Robinson movie about what it feels to be discriminated against.

1. There are plenty of openly women Lesbian in the WNBA and they all get along with non-lesbian women. Why can't that work in the NFL, NBA?
2. Does anyone remember who Robby Rogers is? He is a gay soccer player in the MLS. He made noise, when it came out, and the story has died down. He plays for the L.A. Galaxy, I think. Yes, soccer is not NFL, but why should it be any different?

Too much noise about nothing, really.

 

[Jville]

Ignoring the gay media noise, previous Seahawk looks at this type of football prospect include 2013 7th round pick Ty Powell who ended up in Buffalo as a linebacker conversion project by way of New York.

Another example was 2009 7th round pick Nick Reed who is now a free agent.

Reed was an All-American in 2008 after totaling 53 tackles (35 solo) with 20 going for losses and 13 sacks and forcing two fumbles and leading the nation with five fumble recoveries.

The strength of these prospects is built around their center of gravity and quickness to get around and under longer offensive linemen. They are specialists. Dropping into coverage is not how they made their mark and their long speed is limited.

Scouting report >>> [urltargetblank]http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/10/michael-sam-the-scouting-report/[/urltargetblank]

 

[Chapow]

Sorry to be harsh u can't be gay and play for the seahawks we got to many bad asses on the team and we are good in the dline

Gay people are just as capable as straight people of being a bad ass. If you're a bad ass, you're a bad ass. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.

 

[Joey13091]

He is either a) trying to get his 15 minutes of fame, or b) hoping his stock drops enough as a result so that Pete and John will take him as yet another late round steal in the draft.

I doubt very much most of America cares what people do in their private sexual lives. I also find it somewhat interesting so many feel the compulsion to make a huge deal out of it and make sure everyone else knows damned well what their sexual preferences are, and feel the need to announce it loud and long enough to get a rise out of a few who don't share their beliefs.

The gay community is the new Jehovah's Witnesses. "Knock, knock; I'm wondering if you'll take a few minutes to hear the wonderful story of how I'M GAY!"

I agree completely.

That's how I feel about it.

 

[seahawk12thman]

H*ll No. He is a worthless attention whore and if the Seahawks want a future lawsuit, then draft this pile of crap.

 

[Throwdown]

You guys can keep it about football, or make up attacks on this specific player when you have no reason to it's up to you. I don't want to lock the thread, but if it continues I can't let the words of a few reflect on the whole.

 

[kearly]

I don't think he is going to meet the LEO profile. He has long arms, right weight, but I don't think he is even close to the athlete they would look for at that spot. His pass rush repertoire is limited, he played almost exclusively RDE, and he looked a bit slow for the LEO to me.

The "camp body" athleticism really jumped out when I watched his youtube stuff yesterday. Nick Reed had a ton of sacks in college too.

Height matters quite a bit for pass rushers, especially on 4-3 teams. Most of the elite pass rushers in the game are 6'4" , 6'5", 6'6". For every Elvis Dumerville there are hundreds of sub 6'2" players who dominated in college and then did jack squat in the NFL. Most of it is just height corresponding to arms, but when going up against lineman who are 3-4" taller than you it's easier to get enveloped. Long arms, short arms, it's just damn hard to star in the NFL at 6'1" and change from the DE spot.

 

[seahawk12thman]

You guys can keep it about football, or make up attacks on this specific player when you have no reason to it's up to you. I don't want to lock the thread, but if it continues I can't let the words of a few reflect on the whole.

I will use better language next time but how is this not relevant. My sexuality is of no concern to others and if the writers of the world are convinced that there have been gay players in the past, then his sexual orientation should be kept to himself. Has there ever been an example of a Gay Player being attacked in the locker room?? What exactly are his teammates suppose to do with this information? The only thing it can be is divisive. If you want to bring attention to yourself, don't get angry when others disapprove.

I wonder what the NFL would have done if players openly supported hetero marriage and condemned gays in the NFL?? Kluwe did the reverse and is now suing the league. I erase my harsh language but I stick by their meaning!! I don't think this guy will be drafted but now he has an avenue right? It must have been because he is Gay. This guy to me has no class.

 

[seahawk12thman]

He is either a) trying to get his 15 minutes of fame, or b) hoping his stock drops enough as a result so that Pete and John will take him as yet another late round steal in the draft.

I doubt very much most of America cares what people do in their private sexual lives. I also find it somewhat interesting so many feel the compulsion to make a huge deal out of it and make sure everyone else knows damned well what their sexual preferences are, and feel the need to announce it loud and long enough to get a rise out of a few who don't share their beliefs.

The gay community is the new Jehovah's Witnesses. "Knock, knock; I'm wondering if you'll take a few minutes to hear the wonderful story of how I'M GAY!"

AMEN

 

[Scottemojo]

You guys can keep it about football, or make up attacks on this specific player when you have no reason to it's up to you. I don't want to lock the thread, but if it continues I can't let the words of a few reflect on the whole.

I will use better language next time but how is this not relevant. My sexuality is of no concern to others and if the writers of the world are convinced that there have been gay players in the past, then his sexual orientation should be kept to himself. Has there ever been an example of a Gay Player being attacked in the locker room?? What exactly are his teammates suppose to do with this information? The only thing it can be is divisive. If you want to bring attention to yourself, don't get angry when others disapprove.

I wonder what the NFL would have done if players openly supported hetero marriage and condemned gays in the NFL?? Kluwe did the reverse and is now suing the league. I erase my harsh language but I stick by their meaning!! I don't think this guy will be drafted but now he has an avenue right? It must have been because he is Gay. This guy to me has no class.

Or you don't want to be nice.
He went public becasue so many scouts asked him about the rumors that he knew for a fact it was going to become a story. So, he "came out" on his own terms, before TMZ or some other shit site ran a story.
Pretty sure it wasn't some ploy to gain in some way.

 

[SonicHawk]

Sorry to be harsh u can't be gay and play for the seahawks we got to many bad asses on the team and we are good in the dline

Gay people are just as capable as straight people of being a bad ass. If you're a bad ass, you're a bad ass. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.

I think being gay could possibly make you more of a bad ass.

 

[kearly]

Or you don't want to be nice.
He went public becasue so many scouts asked him about the rumors that he knew for a fact it was going to become a story. So, he "came out" on his own terms, before TMZ or some other shit site ran a story.
Pretty sure it wasn't some ploy to gain in some way.

Peter King was recently quoted as saying that when he mentioned a player coming out to a couple of NFL exectutives, their first guess was Michael Sam. Apparently those in NFL circles have heard stories going a ways back. As you say, there was just about zero chance of Sam being able to stay in the closet as an NFL player.

 

[CPHawk]

HE WASNT IN THE CLOSET. That's what everyone is missing here, he already told friends, family and teammates, he didn't need to tell the media to be "out". He was already out, but now the draft will be all about him, every round that passes they will no doubt talk about him.

 

[Cartire]

I can't wait till the day when players don't have to advertise their sexual preferences. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being gay, but can't you just be gay without a press release about it? Just be gay or straight. Or whatever in between. Don't make it a political talking point. Just be you.

 

[ImTheScientist]

He's an undersized DE ...if he was talented I would say yes, draft him, but he is just another guy. If he wasn't gay he wouldn't even have a thread here. Nothing about his athleticism stands out.

 

[JGfromtheNW]

He's an undersized DE ...if he was talented I would say yes, draft him, but he is just another guy. If he wasn't gay he wouldn't even have a thread here. Nothing about his athleticism stands out.

I think it's interesting that people don't think he's anything to think twice about but he was an All-American DE and Co-Defensive Player of the year in arguably the toughest division in college football, the SEC. The dude can play, even if he isn't your prototypical LEO/DE.

 

[seahawk2k]

He came out so that he had control of the news. Better to attack something that he's obviously been questioned about straight on than wait for TMZ to dig something up and turn it into a scandal.

Also, there are plenty of closeted people, athletes included, as well as well known professional athletes. Plenty of people that are scared to be open about their feelings. It takes guts to come out, whether its to your friends, family, or the whole country because of the potential negative impact it can have on your relationships and career.

I get the points about it creating a media circus, but it will be a short burst, and that's it.

It is unfortunate that if he doesn't get drafted, or gets cut in training camp, people will immediately blame the NFL for homophobia. I hope he gets drafted, and I hope he succeeds so that future openly gay players don't have to endure the same scrutiny.

 

[ImTheScientist]

He's an undersized DE ...if he was talented I would say yes, draft him, but he is just another guy. If he wasn't gay he wouldn't even have a thread here. Nothing about his athleticism stands out.

I think it's interesting that people don't think he's anything to think twice about but he was an All-American DE and Co-Defensive Player of the year in arguably the toughest division in college football, the SEC. The dude can play, even if he isn't your prototypical LEO/DE.

No, I have thought about it. It has nothing to do with how someone will translate to the nfl.

 

[Kamcussion]

Honestly surprised by a few people in here.. Pretty sad.