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Who is Shaun Alexander?
True..The 12s were there from the start..Scottemojo":1crt3fkz said:I don't want to trash Alexander, I loved cheering for that guy.
But he is way offbase. The Twelves were rabid before him. And rabid after. Curt Warner was more instrumental in building what there is now than Alexander.
Bitter":phhaifvf said:[
Every other previous player I have seen make comments recently were more towards being proud of being part of the history and enjoying what this current team is.
Alexander may be stating approximately the same thing, but it comes out of his mouth as "look what I did." This is exactly the impression I had of him while he was playing. It always seemed to me he was playing for his stats and if it helped the team that was just a bonus..
“It's what I always wanted it to be when I first walked into this city the first time,” Alexander told Yahoo Sports. “When I first got here, we were playing in Husky Stadium. When I first got here, we were 6-10. I told my brother when he asked what it is like in Seattle, I told him, 'Coming from Alabama, we have work to do. We don't have our own stadium and we are at a small college for our building offices.' He asked me what I thought and I said, 'We will go to a Super Bowl in five years.'
“I think that we built that. I felt great knowing that I was a part of that success. The norm is average, the norm is not for winners
“We turned this challenge here in Seattle into being a champion in the sport," Alexander said. "That along with building this. You can only have pride in two things: Building something that is great or continuing of something that is great. Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson and everyone – they've got the thing still rolling. Pretty much sitting on the shoulders of what we built.”
the Seahawks struggled to draw crowds let alone generate a home-field advantage.
Put this way, I agree..BlueTalons":3vhb5byc said:I think many of you are missing the point. The culture/facilities when he go here were abysmal. By the time he left they became first class/state-of-the-art. Shawn didn't do it himself; but he was in the middle and part of the morphing of this franchise. From Husky stadium to C-Link, from the old school uniforms to the new. From the old training facilities to VMAC. He was a part of that.
But Pete and John came in and finished what Shawn's Seahawks got rolling. A culture of winning consistently was a part of Shawn's (era) Hawks. They set a STANDARD. Paul recognized quickly that he was losing that culture with Mora and swiftly made the bold change. Pete and John simply carried the dropped torch forward to what we now have.
Tical21":zrjjmua3 said:I don't think this is nearly as rabid without that era of football. That era was win all this "Seahawks Nation" and all this loud stuff really became popular. Before his era, there were old Seahawks fans, and that was really about it. How many tens of thousands of people became Seahawks fans during their run? Those guys you run into in your line of work that wear Seahawks hats to work? Those guys probably became fans around 2004. Ask them.
That would only be true if Carroll had inherited a winning team. He inherited a losing team. He wasn't attracted to Seattle because we had a top tier franchise. He was attracted to Seattle because he had carte blanche to tear it down and rebuild it in his own vision. I highly doubt that had the Seahawks continued in their winning ways that Carroll would have even been interested in coming here.Sgt. Largent":2rmoqr0i said:Bitter":2rmoqr0i said:[
Every other previous player I have seen make comments recently were more towards being proud of being part of the history and enjoying what this current team is.
Alexander may be stating approximately the same thing, but it comes out of his mouth as "look what I did." This is exactly the impression I had of him while he was playing. It always seemed to me he was playing for his stats and if it helped the team that was just a bonus..
How do you come to this conclusion from these quotes?
“It's what I always wanted it to be when I first walked into this city the first time,” Alexander told Yahoo Sports. “When I first got here, we were playing in Husky Stadium. When I first got here, we were 6-10. I told my brother when he asked what it is like in Seattle, I told him, 'Coming from Alabama, we have work to do. We don't have our own stadium and we are at a small college for our building offices.' He asked me what I thought and I said, 'We will go to a Super Bowl in five years.'
“I think that we built that. I felt great knowing that I was a part of that success. The norm is average, the norm is not for winners
“We turned this challenge here in Seattle into being a champion in the sport," Alexander said. "That along with building this. You can only have pride in two things: Building something that is great or continuing of something that is great. Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson and everyone – they've got the thing still rolling. Pretty much sitting on the shoulders of what we built.”
It's all true, Pete and John did continue to build on a good foundation of what Holmgren and that era of players started. Without Holmgren coming here, C-Link and VMAC probably don't get built, which propelled this franchise into the top tier of NFL franchises............when then allowed Allen to attract a coach like Carroll.
For a while at the humdrum and sterile Kingdome and then at Husky Stadium, the Seahawks struggled to draw crowds let alone generate a home-field advantage.
NJSeaHawk":14i2f7qu said:love SA, the first reason the Seahawks caught my eye, but I gotta say he's wrong on this, just my two cents
XxXdragonXxX":1pywgnh9 said:NJSeaHawk":1pywgnh9 said:love SA, the first reason the Seahawks caught my eye, but I gotta say he's wrong on this, just my two cents
If SA I'd the first reason the Seahawks caught your eye, then he is absolutely right. You might not be a Seahawks fan right now without him, or without the Holmgren years. And many others are the same.
Without the Holmgren years, this team would have been bad for 2 decades straight. Instead they were bad for a decade and good for a decade and had a Superbowl appearance under their belt. The Holmgren years gave this team something to build off of. Something to show Pete Carroll when they offered him the job. Yeah, Carroll took over a bad team, but the great years before those 2 bad years showed potential. Without those years, this team would look like the Browns. Perennial losers don't land coaches like Carroll.
I don't buy that rationale.XxXdragonXxX":md2hcrzp said:NJSeaHawk":md2hcrzp said:The Holmgren years gave this team something to build off of. Something to show Pete Carroll when they offered him the job. Yeah, Carroll took over a bad team, but the great years before those 2 bad years showed potential. Without those years, this team would look like the Browns. Perennial losers don't land coaches like Carroll.