Stop Saying "The Seahawks are a young team." They Are Not

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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

The Seahawks rank 25th, and have one of the older rosters in the NFL.

The Rams rank 11th, The 49ers are 23rd, and AZ is a retirement home ranking 29th.



They are young at OT, and at CB, everywhere else they are a veteran team just about.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Explain why you care if people say they are a young team? MANY of their starters are younger players.

 

[FrodosFinger]

Average Age Of Each NFL Team In 2023-24: Oldest & Youngest

Does age matter in the NFL? We broke down the 53-man rosters of each NFL team ahead of the 2023-24 season and update the numbers for each team in the playoffs.

bookies.com

11th

 

[FrodosFinger]

We start 4 rookies. Look around the league and tell me how many teams start 4 rookies and play 5 regularly

 

[sutz]

27y, 5m, 2d to 25y, 4m, 11d

Difference oldest to youngest is 2y, 1m, 2d

Tell me again how much this means?

And yeah, maybe should do this for the starting 22-25 players on each team.

 

[bigskydoc]

Average age is a particularly bad way to measure how "young" a team is. It can be significantly affected by having a Brady or Rodgers at the helm, and by having a stable of journeymen role players or backups that aren't integral to the future of the team

When people talk about a "young team," they are referring to the likelihood of a large percent of the current starters sticking around for a while, to build a team.

A better way would be to compare how many of the starters are on 1st or 2nd contracts. For the Seahawks 7 of 12 offensive starters are on first or second contracts, and 8 of the current 11 starting defense are on first or second.

Our oldest unit is the D-line, but that is a position that can remain productive longer than others.

 

[FrodosFinger]

This^^^

 

[sutz]

Average age is a particularly bad way to measure how "young" a team is. It can be significantly affected by having a Brady or Rodgers at the helm, and by having a stable of journeymen role players or backups that aren't integral to the future of the team

When people talk about a "young team," they are referring to the likelihood of a large percent of the current starters sticking around for a while, to build a team.

A better way would be to compare how many of the starters are on 1st or 2nd contracts. For the Seahawks 7 of 12 starters are on first or second contracts, and 8 of the current 11 starting defense are on first or second.

Our oldest unit is the D-line, but that is a position that can remain productive longer than others.

Yeah, a much more sensible way to look at it.

 

[bigskydoc]

Given the vagaries of contracts, maybe a better way would be just to put the players into tranches of 4 or less years experience, 5 to 7 years, 8 to 10, 10 to 12, and greater than 12.

It would be nice to control for cap hit and minute of time played, but that might be too granular. Probably best to just divide it into starting lineup, and backups.

Not sure if the kickers and long-snapper should be included in the math. I lean towards leaving them out of it.

 

[TwistedHusky]

Where do we fall vs the average? In terms of average youth of starters?
We don't look that young.
I don't think our youth is exceptional vs most other teams but it would be nice to know the #s.

 

[chrispy]

Seahawks are a young team on the rise.

 

[FattyKnuckle]

We start 4 rookies. Look around the league and tell me how many teams start 4 rookies and play 5 regularly

And how many 2nd/3rd year players as well? Plus all the leadership changes this past season. Russ may've been checked out but he was still the captain. Filling Wags' shoes is a huge step for a 3rd year player.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

Young or old, it make no difference.

Young or old, it’s not like the expectations of this year is Super Bowl or bust, hell, it’s not even wild card…

I still have faith there will be better days ahead for Seattle. Those days may be next year, 5 years, or even over 10 years but hell, nothing even winning last forever. At some point, you may need to lose in order to win big again.

I’m still excited to see how this team plays even if the Ws aren’t expected this season.

 

[Maelstrom787]

You've got young bookends, young corners, and soon to be a young quarterback. A young nucleus is there.

 

[bigskydoc]

Niners are way younger than us on defense with 12 starters either under 8 years of experience. Neck and neck on offense.

 

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Average Age Of Each NFL Team In 2023-24: Oldest & Youngest

Does age matter in the NFL? We broke down the 53-man rosters of each NFL team ahead of the 2023-24 season and update the numbers for each team in the playoffs.

bookies.com

11th

11th oldest in that link, mine is up to date and they are now the 8th oldest. FAIL.

 

[Fade]

The young excuse is just a euphemism for poor coaching and lack of talent. "It's okay, gize! They're young!"

It's the young players that are actually playing well. It's the coaches and the veterans that need to pick it up.

 

[Maelstrom787]

Meh. Seems like a whole lotta nothing. The difference between 9th and 25th youngest rosters is half a year. People call the Seahawks young because of how many key starters are young players. No one is like "hmm, looks like they're about half a year older on average than the younger rosters in the NFL."

 

[TransGenderHawkFan]

11th oldest in that link, mine is up to date and they are now the 8th oldest. FAIL.

The difference between the Seahawks and Carolina at 26 is 6 months?

So, removing Al Woods and Geno would put us as one of the youngest?

 

[TransGenderHawkFan]

Niners are way younger than us on defense with 12 starters either under 8 years of experience. Neck and neck on offense.

How is that not a penalty?